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    http://www.v-a.com/bible/

    That site says it's Aramaic.

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    Weren't the gospels written in Arameaic?

    That's the language of Jesus and his apostles.

    I'll have to look that up.
    The words that actually came out of Jesus' mouth were Aramaic. The four written Gospels were in Greek.

    One of the reasons the Greek vocabulary of the NT is not all that extensive, and why the style of writing is wooden and obscure in some places, is because several of the authors were Jews writing in a foreign language, namely Koine Greek, without the benefit of a formal education.

    One question a person could ask would be how closely the Greek rendering of Jesus' words comes to what he literally said. I, this week, actually read a well-respected scholar who insisted that we should read Gospel passages as though the authors had done a word-for-word formal-equivalence translation of Jesus' teachings, and that we should try to figure out what Aramaic forms the Greek would be rendering. How he would be certain of the Gospel writers' translation paradigm is beyond me.

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    Still no clarity on this matter.

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    Syriac Christians claim that the Pe ta contains the autographs.

    Nobody else agrees with them.

    The Pe ta is useful for rendering some of Jesus' more blatant Semitisms, for example, the whole thing about gouging your eye out if it causes you to sin is a figurative way of saying, "If looking at women makes you lust, stop looking at them, even though that sounds extreme."

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    Where the is the class on this forum? I feel like I'm arguing with a bunch of elitist ing s.

    Lulz.

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    The words that actually came out of Jesus' mouth were Aramaic. The four written Gospels were in Greek.

    One of the reasons the Greek vocabulary of the NT is not all that extensive, and why the style of writing is wooden and obscure in some places, is because several of the authors were Jews writing in a foreign language, namely Koine Greek, without the benefit of a formal education.

    One question a person could ask would be how closely the Greek rendering of Jesus' words comes to what he literally said. I, this week, actually read a well-respected scholar who insisted that we should read Gospel passages as though the authors had done a word-for-word formal-equivalence translation of Jesus' teachings, and that we should try to figure out what Aramaic forms the Greek would be rendering. How he would be certain of the Gospel writers' translation paradigm is beyond me.
    I just found a site that said that about Koine Greek, but it also says that some of it was written in Aramaic.

    Here's the site:

    http://www.bibleteacher.org/greek.htm

    It's pretty extensive and I don't have the time to browse through it all.

    I'll have to check it out when I have more time.

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    Syriac Christians claim that the Pe ta contains the autographs.

    Nobody else agrees with them.

    The Pe ta is useful for rendering some of Jesus' more blatant Semitisms, for example, the whole thing about gouging your eye out if it causes you to sin is a figurative way of saying, "If looking at women makes you lust, stop looking at them, even though that sounds extreme."
    I just read that.

    This is all pretty interesting.

    There's too much info for me to go through.

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    One of the fragments of Papias can be interpreted as saying that Matthew composed his Gospel in Aramaic.

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    Are you defending this guy because you're as dumb as him?

    These are all very elementary questions, hence the name of the show.

    It amazes me the number of Americans that don't know about their own country
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    good point!


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    Did I say a possible Hebrew original for Matthew. Good grief. I meant Aramaic.

    But yes, the Gospels, Acts, and Letters were all formally composed in Koine Greek, and have been dated to no later than about 100 (for Revelation and John's writings, possibly), and much earlier for the rest of the NT.

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    Noble gases.

    By the way, I was letting out some noble gasses of my own during lunch.
    They weren't noble. Vile, more like.

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