West is the best player ever, besides Chris Paul. Birdman is 3rd.
Don't let him take so many "comfortables" jumpers. Make him put the ball in the floor and attack the basket and then collapse into him. Who knows maybe he's just as stupid as Stoudamire and he'd try to shoot over three people or even better tourn the ball over.
hahah, you must hate Finley!
West>>>>>Dirk watch
I hate that we got the Suns first. They gave us horrible preparation.
I still think that if we let West get his and shut everyone else that might be a better strategy.
We need to keep a tighter lid on Peja.
As well as control the boards.
I'm confident in SA's ability to limit Paul, much like they did Steve Nash.
Wasn't it
Stop Paul and everybody else will be unpruductive?
I think we should do the "Let Nash be the scorer" strategy. He's basically Steve Nash of last year.
I hated it when Tim and the guys would look down defeated when they let an easy alley oop happen. It's kind of annoying how they would deflate just because the Hornets got a basket on them.
Everytime west plays us he lights us up. They gotta double him or hes gonna go off for 30+ every game this series. He's a nightmare for us!
and lmfao @ peja being a main contributor so far. peja has been of exceptional value of late.
Seen that, been that experienced it
unfortunately
Keep parker on Paul
Bowen on peja
Try Duncan on West
KT on Tyson
Kori...doubling a guy like Chris Paul is the absolute kiss of death of all kisses of death. You never double a PG that can pass like Paul can, you never ever ever do that for the simple reason that that is exactly what Paul wants you to do...because that plays to the strongest part of his game, that's what will allow him to truly dominate.
Paul may cop a ballah at ude allah like AI or JR Smith or some guy like that...but he's not like them in that he will try to take over the game with his scoring like they do. He is 100% pass first and that what he wants to do first...he wants the Spurs to double him, with all his heart that is what he wants more than anything. And the Spurs must never ever ever do that.
No...absolutely best to take away all his passing options and force him to go mano a mano against Bruce...
As Sean Elliott once aptly describred...Bruce is like a rash, you can't kick a rash's ass, the more you fight it then worse it gets, until you literally go insane...that is the essene of Bruce Bowen, that is why this is a battle Paul can and will not win....the longer it goes, and more Paul scratches, the more it is going to itch.
As I said earlier...
#1. I think West can be defended...by our bigs pretty effectively.
But if he can't...
#2. He is the one you double, hopefully with Manu, and if not Manu then Parker. He's the one unprepared to handle a double team... even Tim Duncan can't handle....you guys think David West can?
There are about 2 bigmen in history that could truly, and I mean truly handle a double team...and West is definitely not better than they are.
West won't know how to handle a double team...Paul will thrive on it.
KT needs to be playing at least 30mins a game. He only played 20 today.
I agree, make Paul shoot the ball, his jumper looked awful tonight.
What makes you think that?
I don't love the idea of doubling Paul or West. Trapping Paul and trying to make him move side to side and then rotating back might work but Paul might also be too good. Trapping is what the Spurs used to do with Stockton and they do it with Nash some ... but Paul is just a whole new beast. What makes him close to impossible to handle is that not only does he have impeccable court vision, he also is quick and strong enough to make you pay for trying any sort of gimmick against him.
As much as I like Bowen against Paul, I think Bowen needs to go on Stojakovic. You put Bowen on Stojakovic, you can take him out of the series. Paul is pretty much impossible to guard either way. Might as well limit Stojakovic.
Regarding West, I'm not sure what you can do. It'd be nice if the Spurs could throw a Long Three at him who could guard him out on the perimeter and then have enough size if West tries to post up. But of course, the Spurs never did get that Long Three. Truthfully, West himself is more of a Long Three than a power forward. He's about 6-foot-7 and he'd prefer to face up rather than putting his back to the basket.
With West, I guess you just have to put Thomas and Oberto on him and pray he cools off. Maybe throw Udoka at him ... but that probably won't be too successful. I don't know ... it's the same crap as Nowitzki. The Spurs never got the Long Three so now they don't have anyone to guard him.
It's going to be damn tough to slow this team down. Putting Bowen on CP3, Peja and West would be nice. Too bad there is just one Bowen . . .
Because Kurt Thomas, Fab Oberto and Robert Horry are not in the NBA because of their physical greatness...they are in the NBA because of their minds and their ability to overcome a physical disadvantage. They will figure West out....I mean these guys have been defending Shaq, Tim Duncan, Chris Webber, Kevin Garnett for their entire careers...David West aint got nothing they haven't seen before.
I don't think any of them played particularly bad on West tonight...I think West was simply spectacular...he hit shots where they were flat out in his face that he had no business hitting.
Everyone keep saying Horry got smoked...I'd like to see how many points West scored on Horry tonight...I can think of one basket and a couple of FT's off the top of my head. In the first half I don't think he scored on Horry except a trip to the FT line.
But like I said...if you can't figure him out, you double him after he gets that ball with a small. He's not Bill Walton...
It might not work, but it might disrupt him. I think they have to try it. I know people think it will "turn him into a passer." But he gets rattled sometimes, maybe if it's done right they can take him out of his game and turn him into a bad passer.
I think if Tony can get inspired on D (like he was during stretches of the Suns series), he can work on CP3.It's going to be damn tough to slow this team down. Putting Bowen on CP3, Peja and West would be nice. Too bad there is just one Bowen . . .
They might have to try having Udoka and Bowen on the court together and see if Udoka can do something against someone (West/Peja/Someone).
One reason why I might keep Bowen on CP3 is to fluster him. CP3's one weakness is he's a hot head. If Bowen pesters him continuously, there's about a 40% chance CP3 will do something dumb and get suspended. You can also piss off CP3 and then he turns into more of a chucker. CP3 isn't going to get flustered with Parker guarding him.
That said, I just don't trust anyone other than Bowen on Peja. This isn't your grandaddy's Peja either. This is a confident Peja who has a superstar PG passing him the ball. Manu has the speed and size to guard him ... but then again Manu is a nomad on defense and will always get sucked in toward the action. Finley has the size but not the speed. If you keep Bowen on CP3, Peja is going to single-handedly win a game in this series with his shooting.
Got Damnit. Put Duncan on West. Duncan is quick as when he wants to be. You guard the opposing teams best players with your best defensive player when they play a similar position.
Look Duncan used to be able to guard guys like Garnett, Webber, Dirk all the time. and then magically in '06 he became to slow for it. What happened? He doesn't look slower to me than he did then. Has he become a worse defender since then?
Defensive keys in my opinion-
-Let Bowen on Paul and don't double him, he didn't have such a great game tonight (he pumped up his stats in garbage time), besides I think that Bowen is slowly getting into his head.
-I've said this alredy but, make west put the ball in the floor and then throw the double team, he prefers to face the baskett instead of get the ball in the post, so maybe Udoka could do a good job on him.
-Have always a guy guarding Peja way beyond the 3pt mark.
-And the most important thing of all: box-out and get the defensive rebound.
P.S:
Why not dump Stoudamire for a game and trot out Mahinmi on West for a few seconds just to see how he handles being in a playoff game? Stoudamire's chemistry with the team can't be worse than Mahinmi, especially since big men are expected to just rebound and clean up.
Could be a useful gamble, especially if the Spurs are down by so much again!
Double team West or put Bowen on him.
Everytime the Hornets have beaten us, West has gone crazy scoring.
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