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    I'm just glad to know this...

    I've been looking for a way to dump all the goddamn diabetics that work for me...

    If those Sugar loving s knew how to control their vices they wouldn't be so goddamn unhealthy. So I'm gonna fire their animal killing insulin shooting asses because they are prone to strokes and all sorts of other .

    Anyone that eats sugar is goneamundo...diabetics too.

    Ditto the mother ing cripples with those ed up diseases who are likely to have medical problems down the road.

    You ever see how much time a sucker in a wheelchair takes to do something? Takes those slow mother ers forever to get done...why should I pay for that kind of work when I can get a healthy mother er instead?

    Next...Red meat is one of the leading causes of colon cancer, heart disease and heart attack and people that consume red meat more than 3 times a week are 50% more likely to develop colon cancer or some other ...I'm going to fire their barbaric asses. I aint going to be paying for their ing vice. I'm not going to hire anyone that eats redmeat.

    Furthermore, heavy snorers are likely to have sleep apnea which can lead to all sorts of bad , heart diseases, depression, unproductive work environment, high blood pressure...If they snore, I am going to fire their ing ass.

    Spending more than 1 hour of leisure time on the computer leads to an increased risk of cancer, eye sight, back and joint problems...anyone that spends any more than an hour on their computer at home is not going to work for me.


    Finally...a recent study proved that people that eat runny bull 3 times a day directly out of a cows ass are 10% more efficient than people who don't, they are 10 times less likely to call in sick, or develop any other health problems, therefore, from now all my employess will be required to eat runny bull out of a cows ass three times a day. If they want to work for me.

    Laugh now...but it's coming like a freight train. The insurance companies are now officially dictating employer policy...that should scare the living out of anyone with a brain.

    And Clandestino...

    I pay an increased price on cigarettes for all the class action lawsuits in the mid 90's...I pay a 40 cent luxury tax on those cigs in addition to normal sales tax, I pay much higher insurance rates as well.


    Now can you tell me something you buy on a daily basis that I don't that has that kind of tax?

    They are about to raise the tax on cigarettes 1 full dollar to bail the state government CPS services out of getting it's ass sued off for incompetence, that has absolutely nothing to do with smokers...

    Who does CPS protect?

    Children and the elderly...

    Well Children are non-smokers in the eyes of the law...And since smokers are less likely to live to be elderly(which is why we pay higher insurance rates) I would say that the elderly can pretty much be considered non-smokers as well.

    A large portion of my taxes goes to the elderly and the poor, well the poor can't ing afford cigarattes and there aren't near as many oldsmokers as their are non.

    On top of that it is a government branch...the same government who has outlawed my right to smoke even outside of many places in Austin...that damn sure aint a smoking body...

    Ironically all the uptight non smokers have pretty much crippled downtown Austin financially...well done...Since smokers tend to eat out more.

    So I want to you tell me what you are paying that goes into my pocket to help me.

    Don't claim increased insurance rates because I already pay that myself, and I pay for the higher costs of other smokers with every pack I buy.

    And don't claim butt pick up either...Non smokers litter too
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    Recent studies have found that people who run 10 miles a day are just flat out better than other people...Insurance companies have now begun to have different rates for people who run 10 miles a day...this has lead to an increased in employers who will not hire anyone who does not run 10 miles a day.


    Recent studies have discovered that fat people are more likely to have heart attacks and other ...Insurance companies are now offering separates for unfat people...this has lead to an increase in employers who are no longer hiring fat people.

    Recent studies have discovered that skinny people are more likely to suffer crippling arthritis...and so on and so forth.

    In todays news...an employer has announced he will no longer be hiring people that are non aryan, since Aryan's are perfect, better workers, etc...

    Just keep drawing that I'm better than you line...eventually you are going to wind up on the wrong side of it.

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    ...right up to the point where they fire the pharmacist who won't fill the morning after pill prescription, right conservatives?
    No...here's another conservative who thinks he could have been fired.

    But as usual, your freak-liberal outlook prevents you from seeing truth...such as conservatives actually living by the rules they advocate. Unlike liberals such as yourself, who concern themselves much more with telling other people how to live and ing up their lives, since they've already ed up their own.

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    Re: smoke breaks

    uh....how many 'internet' breaks do we all take? I'm sure they waste just as much, if not more, of a company's productivity time. A lot of people do personal things instead of working on company time.
    I thought it was my job to post here?!!

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    ssssshhhhhhh....Big Brother is watching!

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    I don't recall anyone saying the pharmacist shouldn't have been fired. I believe the debate was over whether or not he should have been incarcerated.

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    I'm sort of perplexed, I guess you can say. I worked in Human Resources and Employee Benefits for god knows how long, and I have NEVER heard of anyone taking a piss test for HEALTH insurance coverage...or rates quoted for smoking/non-smoking participants. I've definitely seen it for life insurance, but never health. What insurance provider does this?
    I had to do it here, along with blood tests, when they were signing me up for my insurance but we all have individual plans. I'm not sure if its different for those with HMOs or whatever.

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    I had to do it here, along with blood tests, when they were signing me up for my insurance but we all have individual plans. I'm not sure if its different for those with HMOs or whatever.
    I thought about that after I posted....it may be different on individual plans as opposed to the group plans you get through work, which is what I'm used to seeing.

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    I would have thought conservatives would have been for employer's rights.
    I don't think they are doing anything illegal. Not smoking is a requirment of employment. Just as passing a urine test for drugs is a requirment of employment.

    Will the ACLU get in on this?

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    I'm just glad to know this...

    I've been looking for a way to dump all the goddamn diabetics that work for me...

    If those Sugar loving s knew how to control their vices they wouldn't be so goddamn unhealthy. So I'm gonna fire their animal killing insulin shooting asses because they are prone to strokes and all sorts of other .

    Anyone that eats sugar is goneamundo...diabetics too.

    Ditto the mother ing cripples with those ed up diseases who are likely to have medical problems down the road.

    You ever see how much time a sucker in a wheelchair takes to do something? Takes those slow mother ers forever to get done...why should I pay for that kind of work when I can get a healthy mother er instead?

    Next...Red meat is one of the leading causes of colon cancer, heart disease and heart attack and people that consume red meat more than 3 times a week are 50% more likely to develop colon cancer or some other ...I'm going to fire their barbaric asses. I aint going to be paying for their ing vice. I'm not going to hire anyone that eats redmeat.

    Furthermore, heavy snorers are likely to have sleep apnea which can lead to all sorts of bad , heart diseases, depression, unproductive work environment, high blood pressure...If they snore, I am going to fire their ing ass.

    Spending more than 1 hour of leisure time on the computer leads to an increased risk of cancer, eye sight, back and joint problems...anyone that spends any more than an hour on their computer at home is not going to work for me.


    Finally...a recent study proved that people that eat runny bull 3 times a day directly out of a cows ass are 10% more efficient than people who don't, they are 10 times less likely to call in sick, or develop any other health problems, therefore, from now all my employess will be required to eat runny bull out of a cows ass three times a day. If they want to work for me.

    Laugh now...but it's coming like a freight train. The insurance companies are now officially dictating employer policy...that should scare the living out of anyone with a brain.

    And Clandestino...

    I pay an increased price on cigarettes for all the class action lawsuits in the mid 90's...I pay a 40 cent luxury tax on those cigs in addition to normal sales tax, I pay much higher insurance rates as well.


    Now can you tell me something you buy on a daily basis that I don't that has that kind of tax?

    They are about to raise the tax on cigarettes 1 full dollar to bail the state government CPS services out of getting it's ass sued off for incompetence, that has absolutely nothing to do with smokers...

    Who does CPS protect?

    Children and the elderly...

    Well Children are non-smokers in the eyes of the law...And since smokers are less likely to live to be elderly(which is why we pay higher insurance rates) I would say that the elderly can pretty much be considered non-smokers as well.

    A large portion of my taxes goes to the elderly and the poor, well the poor can't ing afford cigarattes and there aren't near as many oldsmokers as their are non.

    On top of that it is a government branch...the same government who has outlawed my right to smoke even outside of many places in Austin...that damn sure aint a smoking body...

    Ironically all the uptight non smokers have pretty much crippled downtown Austin financially...well done...Since smokers tend to eat out more.

    So I want to you tell me what you are paying that goes into my pocket to help me.

    Don't claim increased insurance rates because I already pay that myself, and I pay for the higher costs of other smokers with every pack I buy.

    And don't claim butt pick up either...Non smokers litter too
    Telling it like it is! If you think this is taking it to the extreme, you are going to wake up surprised tomorrow or the next day! Wake up America!!!!!!!

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    I can appreciate the sample, but I know quite a number of smokers who are never sick. I also know a lot of people with allergies that call in sick an outrageous number of times.

    And btw, you do realize if you work an 8 hour day you are en led, by law , to two 15 minute breaks and an hour lunch (or at least 1/2 hour?), right? Regardless of your smoking status. Just because you don't smoke and don't take the breaks doesn't necessarily give you a right to complain about it. You can take them if you want to.....go for a short walk or something.
    yes, everyone knows someone who does this or that... but the fact is...studies have shown the majority of smokers cost more to employers...

    also, are you tellng me that most smokers only smoke 2 cigarettes throughout the day? all the smokers i know usually smoke at least once per hour...

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    Re: smoke breaks

    uh....how many 'internet' breaks do we all take? I'm sure they waste just as much, if not more, of a company's productivity time. A lot of people do personal things instead of working on company time.
    yeah, they do...that is why so many companies restrict internet use and have the right to monitor everything you do...

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    And Clandestino...

    I pay an increased price on cigarettes for all the class action lawsuits in the mid 90's...I pay a 40 cent luxury tax on those cigs in addition to normal sales tax, I pay much higher insurance rates as well.


    Now can you tell me something you buy on a daily basis that I don't that has that kind of tax?

    They are about to raise the tax on cigarettes 1 full dollar to bail the state government CPS services out of getting it's ass sued off for incompetence, that has absolutely nothing to do with smokers...

    Who does CPS protect?

    Children and the elderly...

    Well Children are non-smokers in the eyes of the law...And since smokers are less likely to live to be elderly(which is why we pay higher insurance rates) I would say that the elderly can pretty much be considered non-smokers as well.

    A large portion of my taxes goes to the elderly and the poor, well the poor can't ing afford cigarattes and there aren't near as many oldsmokers as their are non.

    On top of that it is a government branch...the same government who has outlawed my right to smoke even outside of many places in Austin...that damn sure aint a smoking body...

    Ironically all the uptight non smokers have pretty much crippled downtown Austin financially...well done...Since smokers tend to eat out more.

    So I want to you tell me what you are paying that goes into my pocket to help me.

    Don't claim increased insurance rates because I already pay that myself, and I pay for the higher costs of other smokers with every pack I buy.

    And don't claim butt pick up either...Non smokers litter too
    regardless of what you pay, you don't enough... tobacco is still highly subsidized.

    and i do agree the gov imposed smoking bans are incorrect...but i also think trying to tell a business he can't fire a smoker is also wrong...

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    and i do agree the gov imposed smoking bans are incorrect...but i also think trying to tell a business he can't fire a smoker is also wrong...

    Would your reaction be the same if they decided to fire everyone that was more than 10 lbs overweight?

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    I'd be out the door in a heart beat.
    But if I was given a year's notice..damn right I'd lose weight.

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    Would your reaction be the same if they decided to fire everyone that was more than 10 lbs overweight?

    i believe a company should have the right to fire and hire at will. if there is a contract is has to be upheld...but if there is no contract, too bad..

    the military already fires people for being overweight...

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    Or for being gay..no?

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    Don't ask if they smoke, don't tell if you're a smoker?

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    Health statistics


    Oh, black men are 30% more likely to have heart disease...aint gonna be hiring me no darkies.

    What's that? Hispanic and African American Men make up 75% of all Aids cases...

    Well that solves that. The South has risen again.

    And those damn women always gettin preagnant....


    I'm sorry if you guys don't see the backwards potential of this precedent...but you will when it finally comes around to you. And also...Lesser pay for lesser people.

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    Don't ask if they smoke, don't tell if you're a smoker?
    And then they can fire you when they find out you do smoke. Not a bright idea if you are responsible for taking care of a family.

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    Some of you guys may like this because it's point for non-smokers, but it's actually a grandslam for employers inclined to discrimanatory practices, and psycho execs at insurance companies looking for ways to save money...it's a huge step backwards, it's an invasion of privacy, and it can potentially allow employers and insurance companies way more intrusion into your personal life and lifestyle than you would ever imagine...

    I just hope none of you celebrating this are complaining about your so called loss of civil rights under the Bush administration...because this is about 100 times worse.

    At least Dan is consistent on this one.

    Anyway, it won't likely effect me since I am subcontractor and pay for my own insurance...but it's eventually going to effect a lot of people in a very wrong way...and not just smokers.

    Besides, I can quit smoking and likely will when they raise the tax by a full dollar...a lot of people won't be able to change some of the things they can discriminate against...when that happens, if it happens to you, just remember you celebrated it's beginning.

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    And then they can fire you when they find out you do smoke. Not a bright idea if you are responsible for taking care of a family.
    Whottt, did you not see the parallel to the gays in the military policy?

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    you want the boss to pay for your health care well then shut the up

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    Yeah...and stop smoking.

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