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Crawford should never ref another game.
I'm still amazed that such a play did not cause the ref to blow his whistle.
All the other controversial missed calls were because of human fallability, and they happen all of the time.
The last sequence, though, is a foul 99% of the time, and they didn't call it. The refs saw it. Everybody saw it. It was obvious. Yet, the call wasn't made, and so:
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Crawford should never ref another game.
[QUOTE=Trainwreck2100;2554451]They don't even know their own rules, no surprise.
And after all that, the league only acknowledges that Barry was fouled.
I guess it is OK to run with the ball now before you shoot. Barry did it, Duncan did it and no call.
How come no acknowledgement from the league that Parker's layin was NOT a goaltend, that Manu's 3 was NOT a 3 and that Fisher's shot DID hit the rim?
I think we all know the answer to those questions.
Oh yeah. We'd be ing and moaning about it too. We and moan now about every missed call that occurs throughout the game. Every call which gives Odom or Fisher his 5th foul and sends them to the bench, unable to contribute. It's your right as a fan.
It doesn't change the fact that on those last second plays, the whistles rarely go off. You can argue that by not making the call, the refs are also deciding the game. Theoretically, yes. But in application, the league would much rather have the team design a play which releases a player for an opening, as opposed to putting the onus on the referees to bail anyone out.
A few years ago, Kobe Bryant drove through the lane with approximately 6 seconds left against Sacramento. There was contact and he missed the shot. Shaq followed up his shot and appeared to have been fouled by Divac, and also missed. The ball was then slapped back to the outside where Horry drained the last second, wide open 3. The league would rather see plays like that than to have Kobe and Shaq go to the free throw line with no time left.
You mean to tell me Duncan's blatant travel that Stevie Wonder could have seen was because of human fallability? Are you kidding me?
How quickly Spurs fans forget the exact same play happened last year in the Finals when Bowen blatantly pushed LeBron James in the back on the last play and it wasn't called.
Did you read the article, like this part
That's a guy in the media acknowledging it so what are you ing about that only the inside the NBA guys said something. Unless Mark Stein is Ernies's stunt double.The Spurs, in truth, wouldn't have had a chance to tie or win the game in the final two seconds if not for a fortuitous non-call on the previous possession.
Honestly, I think it was a borderline call.
(That said, the Lakers would get it every day of the week, especially at home. And if it were our Kobe, oh be steady my heart.)
Yeah, because Kobe is getting so many calls in this series. Right.Honestly, I think it was a borderline call.
(That said, the Lakers would get it every day of the week, especially at home. And if it were our Kobe, oh be steady my heart.)
Do you even believe your own Bull ?
[QUOTE=LakerLanny;2554574]Because you can only use instant replay to review the final play. And Barry didn't travel the NBA said so.
Cursing is a poor subs ute for cleverness.
I'm watching the Celtics play the Pistons as we discuss this. They just had a bad non-call against the Celtics.
Should they put an asterisk if the Celtics win it all this season?
Dumbass.
Are you talking about the series where on game 7 LA shot something like 40 freethrows in the 4th.
If anything I could see the refs having marching orders for game 5 to make it up to the Spurs.
Duncan did not travel. He took two giant steps. It's an awkward play that you never see and so it may have seemed like a walk. But Look at it a second time. You are misinterpreting the play.
As for the Lebron play - no similarity between that and this. You're blind if you're confusing the two. The fact that you are tells me I shouldn't even be havingthis debate with you - you're eyesight is clearly impaired.
It was a commentary on the rationale being applied by someone in this thread. Not about the legitimacy of any win.
But I'm sure you knew that.
Your sight is impaired. You are seeing things through Spur colored glasses. Duncan took three steps to geto the the basket. I am not misinterpreting . How can you honestly sit there and say that Bowen didn't foul James? Go look at the youtube clip of Bowen nearly shoving James to the floor.
This is gonna come full ing circle when Manu drills a game winner in Game 7 in LA over Derek Fisher with .3 on the clock.
[QUOTE=Trainwreck2100;2554599]I saw nothing in that article where the NBA rep said Barry didn't travel.
They also said nothing about Duncan's travel.
Nor the moon landing in 1969.
Using your logic, those events didn't happen either, because NBA said so
I'm not sure if it was the year before or the year after - or even that year. It's those damn back to back to backs.
You're lucky you don't have that problem.
No, because bad non-calls throughout the course of the game are going to be made. No game is perfect. If you go through one by one by one every foul that is called in a playoff game, in the end it usually balances out.
But to not call a very blatant non foul at the END OF A GAME is absolutely unheard of. Even the league went on record to say it should have been a 2 shot foul. I can't understand why people are still arguing this? You CANNOT jump on a player as he attempts a shot. Period.
You're blind. I'm done with you. The fact that you'e bringing the Lebron play into the equation and think that Duncan traveled is re ed.
[QUOTE=Don_In_Redondo;2554679]If you read up on your history here, Laker Lanny believes that Barry traveled so there was no foul because he traveled before the foul. So if there was a foul, that means there was no traveling violation. When did the nba say anything about the moon landing?
I saw nothing in that article where the NBA rep said Barry didn't travel.
They also said nothing about Duncan's travel.
Nor the moon landing in 1969.
Using your logic, those events didn't happen either, because NBA said so
As soon as Pop came out yesterday and was so calm saying "it wasn't a foul", I was thinking that he had probably already had a call with Stern and Stern probably promised it would be made up in LA.
, Pop was even out late to the press conference.
And yet no player says it should've been called. There's a disconnect between you and reality.
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