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    I doubt the Spurs land this guy. Its too good to be true.

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    Rush would be a great fit for SA as well as for himself.

    I will however ramble for a second knowing we have no shot at drafting him.

    Rush is one of those rare breeds. Personally reminds me of Joe Johnson who was only at Arkansas for 1.5 years. He is a flat out horse, hustler, and can jump through the rough--exactly what the Spurs need in a player he is fundamental, well rounded and doesn't possess a major weakness other than injury prone risks.

    To me landing Rush would be a dream. And if I am SA hierarchy, I am looking to trade up in this draft, or someone trade for him. He is that good and I rarely admire a kid this much coming out of college.
    wow this is a brutal compliment from you

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    I meant to say roof. Hahaha.

    Rush is just the man, more complete player than all but 3 guys in this draft.

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    http://www2.kusports.com/news/2008/j...nt_state_well/

    though there’s some evidence the San Antonio Spurs might try to deal for him

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    Bruno, you own google.

    Thanks for this.

    I'd rather the Spurs sat at 26 and picked between CDR-Rush-Lee than moved ahead to get Rush. I prefer Lee of those three, but all of them project as decent rotation level talent.

    If the Spurs move up, let it be for a big swinger. I'd like them to buy a pick and keep their 26, but I'm greedy and gluttonous that way.

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    How the are the Spurs going to move up in the draft? Excuse my French, but what ing assets do they have to move up with? If they couldn't move up a few slots to get Daegquan Cqook last year with Luis Scola's rights what chance do they have this year?

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    According to spursreport, spurs may want to make a deal to move up in the draft in order to get Rush, i wonder what would be the deal, involving bonner maybe ?

    Could they renounce to mahinmi ? ( i don't think so but i don't see him contributing that much next year especially if the spurs land a decent big man, ala ronny turiaf..)

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    How the are the Spurs going to move up in the draft? Excuse my French, but what ing assets do they have to move up with? If they couldn't move up a few slots to get Daegquan Cqook last year with Luis Scola's rights what chance do they have this year?
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    According to spursreport
    it's according to kusports.

    Give credits to people who deserve it.

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    yes but you know, at this point, all of this is just food for thought anyway

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    How the are the Spurs going to move up in the draft? Excuse my French, but what ing assets do they have to move up with? If they couldn't move up a few slots to get Daegquan Cqook last year with Luis Scola's rights what chance do they have this year?
    Bonner and the Beno trade exception.

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    How the are the Spurs going to move up in the draft? Excuse my French, but what ing assets do they have to move up with? If they couldn't move up a few slots to get Daegquan Cqook last year with Luis Scola's rights what chance do they have this year?
    if they package all their 2nd rounders with their 1st rounder, a team like the Nets might be willing to give the #21 pick. 2nd rounders have become more of an asset, if a team wants to draft international.
    not that I wish that this happens. Spurs should even think about trading down and get more picks in the 2nd round. (#31 and #34 from the Wolves for the #26 pick) this would allow to either pick international (Casspi, Asik) and not be enchained by the rookie scale, or to adress more needs.
    31, 34 and 45 could deliver a PG, a wing and a big. (Chalmers+ Asik+ Hairstone. just as an example)

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    if they package all their 2nd rounders with their 1st rounder, a team like the Nets might be willing to give the #21 pick. 2nd rounders have become more of an asset, if a team wants to draft international.
    not that I wish that this happens. Spurs should even think about trading down and get more picks in the 2nd round. (#31 and #34 from the Wolves for the #26 pick) this would allow to either pick international (Casspi, Asik) and not be enchained by the rookie scale, or to adress more needs.
    31, 34 and 45 could deliver a PG, a wing and a big. (Chalmers+ Asik+ Hairstone. just as an example)
    The only reasonable reply. The trade exception cannot be coupled in this way, I don't think. Bonner is next to worthless because of his contract.

    The Wolves or Blazers picks are extremely attractive to me right now. In my estimation the team needs two rookies on the team, in addition to Mahinmi. They absolutely have to pull a productive rookie out of the draft, and in order to be compe ive probably two.

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    The only reasonable reply. The trade exception cannot be coupled in this way, I don't think. Bonner is next to worthless because of his contract.

    The Wolves or Blazers picks are extremely attractive to me right now. In my estimation the team needs two rookies on the team, in addition to Mahinmi. They absolutely have to pull a productive rookie out of the draft, and in order to be compe ive probably two.

    the problem is imo that we could'nt land two or three good rookies with second round picks maybe one

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    the problem is imo that we could'nt land two or three good rookies with second round picks maybe one
    There are two ways to do it... draft at 26 (don't screw it up) and nail the 45 pick.

    Or...

    Trade the 26 to the Blazers or Wolves for their 2 very early 2nd rounders. I've opined elsewhere in threads that IMO the best value per pick in the entire draft is in the first 10 picks of the second round. That is, best value of players available in relation to what picks will get them. (Same with about 17-22.) That is, there will be players available in the 30-40 range who could easily be late 1st rounders and go early 20s.

    It'd be a gamble, but guys like Chalmers and Lee could be available there who are worth the 26 pick alone.

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    Brandon Rush has been working out against CDR and getting the better of him. Rush, from what is being reported looks like a solid defensive player right off.

    My question of Lee-CDR-Rush is if any of three can step in and play 20 minutes a game next year. If the answer is yes to any of the three, I say draft him, even if if one of the others has a higher upside in two years or more.

    Still, I'd like the Spurs to buy a higher pick and swing for the fences with it. In the second round they can take fliers on a wing (Casspi) or a point or someone freakishly athletic. I don't expect much from those picks, but maybe we can strike oil.

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    There are two ways to do it... draft at 26 (don't screw it up) and nail the 45 pick.

    Or...

    Trade the 26 to the Blazers or Wolves for their 2 very early 2nd rounders. I've opined elsewhere in threads that IMO the best value per pick in the entire draft is in the first 10 picks of the second round. That is, best value of players available in relation to what picks will get them. (Same with about 17-22.) That is, there will be players available in the 30-40 range who could easily be late 1st rounders and go early 20s.

    It'd be a gamble, but guys like Chalmers and Lee could be available there who are worth the 26 pick alone.
    maybe you could have a late first pick or a pick in the 30's without trading our pick by using cash like portland last year
    some teams like nj couldn't go with a lot of rookies in their roster

    for rush i think it can be a good option for the spurs and can give us some minutes next year

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    maybe you could have a late first pick or a pick in the 30's without trading our pick by using cash like portland last year
    some teams like nj couldn't go with a lot of rookies in their roster

    for rush i think it can be a good option for the spurs and can give us some minutes next year
    Yes, however it's done. My somewhat arbitrary line is that we need two productive rookies on the team. Don't have to be hugely productive, but we need something. I just don't see us moving up in the draft.

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    With as horrible as the Spurs domestic scouting has been, I'm fine with Buford relying on Bill Self for advice. If Self tells him that Rush is the player the Spurs have to go out and get, I trust Self more than any domestic scout the Spurs have. If that means the Spurs packaging #26 with one of their second rounder and $3M to move up ..... that's what needs to happen.

    Same with Chalmers. If Self says Chalmers is the guy, RC should listen to the advice.

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    With as horrible as the Spurs domestic scouting has been, I'm fine with Buford relying on Bill Self for advice. If Self tells him that Rush is the player the Spurs have to go out and get, I trust Self more than any domestic scout the Spurs have. If that means the Spurs packaging #26 with one of their second rounder and $3M to move up ..... that's what needs to happen.

    Same with Chalmers. If Self says Chalmers is the guy, RC should listen to the advice.
    What if he says they're both the guy? What then?

    What if Sampson says DJ White is the guy?

    If we get all three, we're set though.

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    What if he says they're both the guy? What then?

    What if Sampson says DJ White is the guy?

    If we get all three, we're set though.
    I just had this horror vision. Spurs in fact somehow draft Rush at 26, Chalmers at 45 and White at 57, but then we learn that they have traded Rush to the Suns for a future pick, used Chalmers as a teaser for a trade with the Mavs to get rid of Bonner's contract and can't find an agreement with White, because they don't want to give him guaranteed money, so he leaves for Europe.

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    How the are the Spurs going to move up in the draft? Excuse my French, but what ing assets do they have to move up with? If they couldn't move up a few slots to get Daegquan Cqook last year with Luis Scola's rights what chance do they have this year?
    Slim, unless they're looking at giving up one or both of their 2nd rounders. The Spurs may very well may be able to land Rush him at 26. However, I wouldn't be too upset if they feel strongly about moving up to secure him.
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    Sure would like to know what evidence they are referring to.
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    the trade exception could work.

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    Most likely scenario....

    Spurs have a trade worked out with a team in the early 20s to draft Brandon Rush and then swap picks. If Brandon Rush is off the board by the pick, Spurs have a trade worked out to back out of the first round and pick up both of the early second rounders from either Minnesota or Portland.

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