Pacers have traded this pick to the Spurs for George Hill sources say

[TJastal]

You were giving definitive predictions about the NBA careers of both. What part of that do you not understand?

Figure of speech. You know what you did: continuously . Man, you're having a lot of trouble with even the most basic concepts. Maybe you are really mentally challenged.

I'll apologize if you are. Just let me know.

I don't agree with "defenitive predictions". My point was Leonard and Splitter were both raw recruits, one across the sea and the other barely out of high school. It's hard for me to get too butthurt over it, sorry.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't agree with "defenitive predictions". My point was Leonard and Splitter were both raw recruits, one across the sea and the other barely out of high school. It's hard for me to get too butthurt over it, sorry.

Shouldn't have predicted so definitively then:

Do you have reading / comprehension problems?

I said the spurs should have used Parker to trade up in the draft to one of the several lottery teams who were willing to give up their 1st rounder + a decent player in return for Parker. Until the spurs floated Richard Jefferson into the equation of course, which quickly ended all talks.

Then easily selected Singleton (who dropped to #17 or 18 I believe), a guy who will be a better player than Leonard and a player the spurs would have been able to plug into the starting lineup quickly in Jefferson's place.

Spurs would have had a revamped starting lineup, depending on what PF/C they could have landed for Parker. No doubt they could have landed PF Jason Thompson, who is/was being shopped around the league by the kings, and fits the mold of a quality young athletic player who could have been plugged in next to Tim Duncan in the starting lineup.

These moves would have given the spurs a tremendous boost of youth and athleticism to their starting lineup IMO.

Hill
Manu
Singleton
Thompson
Duncan

Instead, now they are stuck with the french poodle, a lottery bust in Leonard, and no quality PF to help Tim Duncan.

The guy will be a typical stiff in this league.. I think Aaron Gray and Sean Marks will have better and more distinguishable careers and that's even IF he decides to actually come to the nba.

And you repeated your "off-the-cuff" and "impromptu" "first impression" of Leonard two weeks later.

Leonard is just a bad overall fit for the spurs IMO. Pop has had a great track record of drafting the past decade but this one is going to be a major bust. And considering that they surrendered Hill in order to draft this bust really makes it even more sad.

My guess is if Leonard doesn't learn to shoot an nba 3pt, he'll be riding alot of pine behind Jefferson next year. No chance he will crack the starting lineup. And on the off-chance that he does develop a respectable 3 pt shot, his one strength (rebounding), will be wasted in the spurs' system. Singleton would have been 5X better as a fit. Better transition player, better defensive player (by far), better shooter, ... .

But please, continue dedicating several more posts to the notion you don't care about what you said.

[apalisoc_9]

BUMP

[exstatic]

TJ with the bads, per usual.

[RD2191]

How does this help the Spurs win now or rebuild

[apalisoc_9]

BUMP

[RD2191]

Russo21 with an epic meltdown.

[RD2191]

Hoops Czar taking weiners to the dome.

Rofl

[HI-FI]

wow, DPG was way off.

[spurraider21]

Chump is . He simply stated facts

yeah i really hate it when people do that

[FkLA]

yeah i really hate it when people do that

Doesn't make sense to give him props for simply stating obvious things. He didn't really make a prediction tbh.

[ElNono]

Props to ElNoNo. He correctly, and immediately, identified the essential elements of the trade and patiently tried to explain them to those that didn't understand. Perhaps not to great effect, but the effort was there.

missed this post like 2 years ago...

Thanks Mel

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't make sense to give him props for simply stating obvious things. He didn't really make a prediction tbh.

Why would I have made a prediction about Leonard when I hadn't seen him play enough at the time of the draft?

I mean, that didn't stop others from making the stupidest predictions in the history of ST -- but why should I?

[FkLA]

Nothing wrong with it I guess, just don't see why you would deserve props for that.

Disagree. If someone tells me a 19 year old rookie won't be able to have the same impact as an established, solid 30 mpg player I'd think that was pretty reasonable.

[ChumpDumper]

Nothing wrong with it I guess, just don't see why you would deserve props for that.

I don't see why you have to be defensive about what someone says about me.

Disagree. If someone tells me a 19 year old rookie won't be able to have the same impact as an established, solid 30 mpg player I'd think that was pretty reasonable.

What if that player was Kevin Durant and that person just hadn't watched him play?

Would you look stupid for automatically agreeing with him?

[Mel_13]

missed this post like 2 years ago...

Thanks Mel

You, sir, have way more patience than me.

[Brazil]

Don't know why they took Leonard over Singleton. Anyone have any idea?

nice gem in dat thread

[Dex]

Chris Singleton

[baseline bum]

Crap, lol at me thinking he was an undersized PF; I should never doubt RC on a draft pick. Manny was dead-on in this thread.

[will_spurs]

Just imagine if we had drafted Kenneth Faried, though...

[Budkin]

Still can't believe we traded away Paul George!

[TVI]

Still can't believe we traded away Paul George!

Never gets old!

[Splits]

Damn, TJastal with the EPIC bads. EPIC fail.

[DPG21920]

Unless the Spurs move RJ, this guy likely won't have a chance to do anything
Hill was a very good rotation player. I'm not against trading Hill, but why for this?

In fairness to me, despite being somewhat wrong, one of the biggest reasons I didn't like the trade was because of RJ. They did in fact trade him which then opened up opportunity.

[heyheymymy]

In fairness to me, despite being somewhat wrong, one of the biggest reasons I didn't like the trade was because of RJ. They did in fact trade him which then opened up opportunity.

yeah i don't know why you're getting dashed for that take, it really wasn't some big claim or doubt. hindsight is 20/20, but we still had RJ back then, and the move didn't make sense 100% till you saw the bigger picture later on.