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    Inconsistency is the only consistency when you launch an NBA-high 7.9 3-point attempts per game.

    I made the thread. It's my place to argue, plus I've provided rationality that you've not even offered.

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    I have (my last post before the thread was bumped). You said due to his chucking style, the warriors will struggle when curry has an off shooting night. The numbers refute that.

    I cite his career high assist total as evidence that he's not simply chucking, and you give a bull and baseless explanation of how his assists largely come out of situations where he is doubled/tripled and forced to get rid of the ball as a last resort instead of coming from actual playmaking.

    While you are quick to assign blame to Curry when the team loses, you have also been on record saying his teammates have more to do than wins/losses than he does, which seemingly contradict one another

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    I have (my last post before the thread was bumped). You said due to his chucking style, the warriors will struggle when curry has an off shooting night. The numbers refute that.

    I cite his career high assist total as evidence that he's not simply chucking, and you give a bull and baseless explanation of how his assists largely come out of situations where he is doubled/tripled and forced to get rid of the ball as a last resort instead of coming from actual playmaking.

    While you are quick to assign blame to Curry when the team loses, you have also been on record saying his teammates have more to do than wins/losses than he does, which seemingly contradict one another
    You're either being intentionally obtuse or you are just naive.

    Curry is the PG. He's the one running the show. If his scoring outbursts more often come in losses than in wins, then that means his teammates aren't involved. They will score fewer points. The team loses. That doesn't mean the team lost because the teammates scored fewer points, at least it's not the root cause. How are you with abstract concepts?

    You seem capable of understand the concept with Kobe but somehow you have a blind spot when it comes to Curry. It's notable though that you say "I am a fan of the guy, I hope he improves". Your acceptance of his game is established and you're now hoping he earns it.

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    He won't give up. He has a passion for arguing. Do you not know DMC?
    is this some ironic or what?

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    You're either being intentionally obtuse or you are just naive.

    Curry is the PG. He's the one running the show. If his scoring outbursts more often come in losses than in wins, then that means his teammates aren't involved. They will score fewer points. The team loses. That doesn't mean the team lost because the teammates scored fewer points, at least it's not the root cause. How are you with abstract concepts?

    You seem capable of understand the concept with Kobe but somehow you have a blind spot when it comes to Curry. It's notable though that you say "I am a fan of the guy, I hope he improves". Your acceptance of his game is established and you're now hoping he earns it.
    Curry's assist numbers are a shade lower in losses... But it's also true that Lee/Klay (the two best scorers besides Curry) have considerably lower shooting figures during losses.

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    is this some ironic or what?
    Not whatsoever. You "cleverly" only posted a segment of my post, even though u preceded it with "he is as philopolemic as I am"

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    Curry's assist numbers are a shade lower in losses... But it's also true that Lee/Klay (the two best scorers besides Curry) have considerably lower shooting figures during losses.
    Shooting figures?

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    Shooting figures?
    Yes

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    So what figures? His PPG? His %?

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    Their entire statlines in win/loss spreads have been posted in this thread

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    What a weird thread.

    Curry was the 6th most efficient player in the league this season and 4th in assist percentage.
    ^ probably hasn't watched more than 4 Warriors games all season.

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    Their entire statlines in win/loss spreads have been posted in this thread
    You're so busy responding to every post you don't have time to actually add anything.

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    Curry 0-5 with 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter..

    DMC the prophet, tbh..
    Last edited by Malik Hairston; 04-19-2014 at 06:05 PM.

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    Curry 0-5 with 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter..

    DMC the prophet, tbh..
    To be fair, one of the few things the Clippers did well today was guarding Curry, unfortunately, the rest of their team stepped up....

    Maybe the better play is to let him chuck and shut down everyone else, tbh....

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    choking in the 4th

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    Curry just doing what Curry does.

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    Curry
    Chucking, choking got
    Flops on every jump shot
    Shut down by a hobbled CP3 for most of the series

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    are you guys gonna really trash steph? he played a of a game.

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    are you guys gonna really trash steph? he played a of a game.
    Just good ole' ribbing homie. Steph played a of a game. What should really be laughed at is Chris Paul trying his best to give away the game to the Clippers.

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    What should really be laughed at is Klay Thompson being invisible for long stretches of the series after talking all that before Game 1, including absolutely dismal performances in Games 2 and 6....

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    What should really be laughed at is Klay Thompson being invisible for long stretches of the series after talking all that before Game 1, including absolutely dismal performances in Games 2 and 6....
    Klay didn't do much today, but he wasn't abysmal either in my opinion. He did ok for a Game 7. And oh yeah I remember when he talked to Blake about flopping

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    Klay didn't do much today, but he wasn't abysmal either in my opinion. He did ok for a Game 7. And oh yeah I remember when he talked to Blake about flopping
    After all the flopping Curry, Lee, Green, and even Iggy were doing all series, that was laughable as in hindsight

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    The problem in this series wasn't Steph. It was the fact that Mark Jackson doesn't know how to run a team, had low contributions from his bench and doesn't coach defense at all. He's a cheerleader. I hope he gets fired.

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    New season, new coach.





    Los Angeles Clippers
    STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Blake Griffin, PF 31 7-15 0-0 0-1 0 1 1 1 0 0 2 2 -23 14
    Matt Barnes, SF 21 1-4 0-2 0-0 0 2 2 0 0 0 1 2 -18 2
    DeAndre Jordan, C 28 5-8 0-0 2-2 3 6 9 1 2 1 1 1 -22 12
    Chris Paul, PG 31 6-15 1-3 2-2 0 2 2 12 4 0 2 2 -25 15
    J.J. Re , SG 23 3-6 1-2 5-5 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 1 -20 12
    BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Spencer Hawes, PF 13 0-3 0-2 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 -9 0
    Jordan Farmar, PG 8 1-3 1-1 0-0 0 0 0 4 1 0 1 0 -5 3
    Reggie Bullock, SG 8 1-1 1-1 0-0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 -6 3
    Jamal Crawford, SG 17 5-8 1-3 3-5 0 1 1 2 2 0 2 1 -7 14
    Ekpe Udoh, PF Has not entered game
    Hedo Turkoglu, SF Has not entered game
    Chris Douglas-Roberts, SG Has not entered game
    Jared Cunningham, SG Has not entered game
    TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    29-63 5-14 12-15 3 15 18 21 9 1 11 9 75
    46.0% 35.7% 80.0%
    Fast break points: 12
    Points in the paint: 26
    Total Team Turnovers (Points off turnovers): 13 (13)
    +/- denotes team's net points while the player is on the court.
    Golden State Warriors
    STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    Harrison Barnes, SF 23 1-3 1-1 4-4 1 4 5 3 0 0 0 0 +20 7
    Draymond Green, SF 24 7-9 4-6 2-2 0 5 5 4 1 1 2 1 +23 20
    Andrew Bogut, C 26 3-5 0-0 0-0 2 10 12 5 0 0 3 2 +22 6
    Stephen Curry, PG 24 6-11 3-6 5-5 0 4 4 5 1 0 3 4 +27 20
    Klay Thompson, SG 25 7-10 3-3 2-2 0 1 1 1 0 2 0 3 +10 19
    BENCH MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    David Lee, PF 7 3-4 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 +1 6
    Festus Ezeli, C 10 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 2 2 0 2 0 4 2 +5 0
    Shaun Livingston, PG 12 2-3 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 4
    Leandro Barbosa, SG 11 5-7 1-2 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 +17 11
    Andre Iguodala, SG 18 3-3 1-1 2-2 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 1 +10 9
    Marreese Speights, PF Has not entered game
    Ognjen Kuzmic, C Has not entered game
    Brandon Rush, SG Has not entered game
    TOTALS FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
    37-56 13-19 15-15 3 26 29 24 5 3 15 15 102
    66.1% 68.4% 100.0%



    Look at the balance of scoring, but less obvious, the balance of assists among the starters. Notice Curry doesn't have all the assists and 20 shot attempts. That small sample says ball distribution, ball movement, open shooters who take the shots, intentional plays, not a "bail us out with a 30' bomb please" offense.

    So far so good. Much improved over Jackson's system.

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