Daye going to have to do the unexpected to stick around. Like rebound.
For what it is worth, Austin Daye is the top scorer for the Spurs in this meaningless pre-season game against the Suns.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/...to-suns-121-90
Austin Daye led the Spurs with 17 points and six rebounds. He finished 3-of-5 from deep and 6-9 overall.
He was god awful in that game. Worst performance for that stat line I could imagine.
He had some mistakes. He is still proving to be foul-prone. Maybe out of position too often, but correctable? However, he did have some good defensive plays as well, mostly on interior defense. A little overboard with "god-awful", IMHO. But, maybe you have higher expectations for him.
Daye was well within the norm of suck for the group. Less suck, IMHO. Only had 1 turnover. Only the second game he's played, and he had only one turnover in the first as well. But, didn't shoot well in that first game. He was efficient on offense this time and didn't turn the ball over. Not all negative. I was ready to cast him out just due to his poor shooting and shot selection, sometimes, in SL and Turkey. If he can't shoot, he really has no place here. He had a horribly inefficient Summer League and Uker game. I don't expect him to be a great defender, but I do expect him to score. Hopefully his defense can continue to improve enough to have him on the court for his offense.
IMHO Parker and company looked far worse than Daye in many regards. Parker turning the ball over, etc. Danny losing his man over and over again. Belli looked like ass. Diaw was not good. There were a lot of guys that played even worse than Daye, and they were guys with infinitely more experience in the system than him. I was far more disappointed in them and more relatively pleased with Daye for this reason. Although, I'm not panicky about anything.
Hopefully Daye can continue to clean some stuff up. In Summer League and in these two preseason games I have yet to see him bite on an up-fake and land on the shooter for a foul. That was something he had done a few times in the 120 minutes he got to play for us at the end of last season. I don't know if they have worked on that, specifically, but it seems to have diminished. I'll take it, and hope he can continue to improve on defense.
Daye's problems are very concerning. He didn't seem to know where he was supposed to be on either side of the ball. He kept ruining spacing and taking the wrong assignments. It was terrible. You could see his teammates losing patience with him. He did a good job making something happen when he got the pass, but as far as a team score goes, it was about the worst performance I've seen from a Spurs player in a long, long time.
But , it's preseason. The fact that he shot well is comforting, since that's the primary reason why last year didn't go so well for him. If he can become a knock-down shooter, he'll receive playing time as the year. But if he goes out there like a chicken with his head cut off, he'll remain the guy who'll be first on the chopping block if the team needs a roster spot, I feel.
He was the most efficient scorer on the team. He had only one turnover. He was -7, only Baynes -5 and Cojo -1 had better. So there isn't any stats to back you up here other some subjective assessment of not knowing what to do.
So he wasn't 'God awful' that you claim.
If you want to think that, fine. I had two statements in that quote, the latter of which is getting conveniently ignored. I know his stats; I saw the box score. I also watched the game, which is why I asserted that was the worst performance I could imagine for someone with his statline.
It is obvious from his SL stint and the last games that his two options on offense is (1) Space the floor and shoot the 3 and (2) in the event of a hard close out, to penetrate.
The Spurs also seem to want to play him at the 4, like they play Bonner.
Unfortunately, I'm a bit disappointed with his defense at that position.
I thought he did pretty well down low, actually. He was having more issues out in space, in transition, or out on the perimeter.
Gary Neal and Marco Belinelli cynics would strongly disagree with the bolded.
He needs to be cut. I have no reason why the Spurs guaranteed his contract.
If you are 26 and still haven't figured out how to be an NBA player you probably never will.
It was a cheap minimum guarantee when they didn't know if Bonner wouldn't be back. Just another shooter over 6'10". He is the most expendable cut type contract on the roster, being the cheapest of the bottom three guys.
So much hate. Baynes and Ayres are both 27. Bonner is retirement agent and all he does is space the floor.
Anyway, Daye's length and shooting ability is gold for the Spurs. Give him time to contribute before you call for him to get cut.
lol
Oh no.... Austin Daye playing really well against the Kings.
Interesting stat line... Austin Daye is tied with Leonard with most steals. Daye has 5 steals as of this date.
this guys a terrible player
doesnt do anything well
hes suppose to be a shooter but he cant shoot either
You should try watching some games. He was second or third in 3pt% in the pre-season @42+%, I believe. That was also on the most attempts from three of any player. Ceperez just pointed out he is tied for most steals with Kawhi. So, he does some things well.
This is not to say he hasn't had some stinkers. He has. Like everyone else making far more than 1 million a year annd getting sporadic minutes. He's knocking the rust off just like everyone else on the team seems to be. He hasn't had a good start to the regular season, but hardly deserves much of the blame for these losses. That's on guys getting big minutes and big money. He will either round into shape, or be gone at the end of the season. Pretty simple chicken little.
In this last game he had a bad shooting night. The whole team did. Green was 2/10, I believe, and Kawhi was 3/13. Those dudes will be paid about a combined 20 Million per year next year.
Misplaced outrage.
kind of weird though that you cherry-pick the amount of steals he's had yet slightly brush off his 3-13 shooting night, a facet of his game which was supposed to be his forte. Despite a 42% clip it was a horrible offseason for a 26-year-old NBA vet who kept saying he never had the chance to blossom. In the Phoenix game, which, I believe, was another chance to show off his wares as a Bonner replacement at least, he mustered a 2-7 shooting night, with nothing special to show for.
but of course, there's the argument he gets paid only $1M, so no one really wins here. Except you, when he registers a decent game.
A race to the bottom with Ayres and Daye, no sign of anything else.
welp, can't say Pop didn't give him a chance when the inevitable trade/cut happens
I'm not glossing over his poor shooting. "Stinkers" is not meant to sound "good". 2/7 was one of the BETTER shooting displays that day, sadly, and 3/13 (Green and Leonard combined 1/10 in that game, his 2/7 game previou ...lazy edit) was bad, and still on par with our finals MVP and rumored max player, as well as DG, one of our 3-point specialists. Shooting woes are pervasive. Everyone is suffering from 3 except Parker. Because I don't overweigh it doesn't mean I ignore it. I have mentioned it several times.
I just don't rush to judgement on the 15th guy on the bench. His summer league wasn't great, but his shooting in preseason was acceptable.
He has played mostly poorly, but not any more or less so than most of the team, especially, again, based on expectations. We are talking about a roster spot sometimes filled with Bateers and Marks and DeColos. I am not afraid.
At the end of the season, he still looks very capable of ending with a 40+% from 3 year, but maybe not. I will wait until the end of the year. I won't wring my hands over this first 3 games, one of which he played 3 minutes.
Lastly, I don't cherry-pick anything. Acknowledging the good with the bad is being objective. Nothing else. The people that drive by saying: I hope Daye gets Ebola. Or, something of the sort, are the ones looking at the glass half-empty.
I have mentioned his fouling rate being to high about 10 times. And, lamented his poor shooting throughout the summer league. His shot selection needs to improve, some, too. He passes up some he should take, and takes some he should pass.
He's getting playing time, though, and NoNo is right. When the time comes, if he is released, I won't be crying that he didn't get a chance. He needs to knock down his shots, even if Belli, Diaw, Green, Manu and Leonard aren't.
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