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Ayton staying in Phoenix (or so it appears).
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Ayton staying in Phoenix (or so it appears).
Aka Phoenix realized they overpaid him and therefore don’t have suitors
My thought too. Too much money for a guy who's balls shrivel under pressure. Of course, that's basically the history of the entire Suns' organization.
Still on the Coby White and Naz Reid bandwagon if they don't cost too much and for some 2-3 years contract.
I think they'd have suitors if they wanted to trade him for rotation guys tbh.
He's got a loser mentality but he put up 18/10 on good efficiency and is only 25yo. A GM would take a chance on him no doubt.
I don't think they're actively looking to ship him in the summer. Probably give it a training camp and a few months to see if Vogel can get anything out of him (or inflate his value) before shipping him closer to the deadline.
He's the new John Collins - OK player, terrible contract = bad value. Some team might take a chance on him but unlikely to pay for it and Suns apparently don't want to just give him away.
Which should be (yet) another cautionary tale for the "get something for him" crowd. It's okay if players walk sometimes. If a good opportunity is there, take it. If not just move on. Neither ATL nor PHX wanted to keep those guys but paid like they did. It shows now in their inability to move them or rehab their value.
This is some glass house stone throwing if I've ever seen it. If it were up to you, we would have been in the play in game yet AGAIN last year with no end in sight and facing a big payday for DJM.
i don't think that Ayton deal is a negative contract. No sense in dealing both he and Paul but I'm sure fi they wanted to move Ayton they definitely could do so easily. Doubt they'd get back equal value, but I also don't think they'd have to salary dump him.
IOW, I think you are right, but I also think retaining Ayton was the right move for the Suns.
There is no market for Ayton. That's the problem they're facing.
Hold up. You're saying we would not be in the play in, or some , if we overpaid these mostly terrible players?
How does that make a goddamn lick of sense?
Wonder what OKC’s price is?
I don’t believe that at all. There’s a market but it’s not going to return a massive haul. No reason to move him if it’s simply a lateral move and even less of a reason to salary dump him.
There's really no market. That's why they're trying to pump the pedal and generate one. No one wants to pay number one pick salary for a lazy disinterested player who vanishes in the playoffs. There was barely a market before the CBA and there sure as heck ain't one now.
It reminds me of a Texas Holdem player calling an all in bet on the turn with just a flush draw getting only 2:1 odds after having called a bet on the flop. Folding is the right play, even if outsiders deep in the sunk cost fallacy will chirp otherwise.
Naz Reid resigns with Wolves.
Given how low they are on young assets (though the Spurs might have just handed them one for free), this is more about asset retention than anything else.
A trade the magnitude of a Towns one wouldn't have depended on it, but Reid is something like a poor man's version of him, increasing the odds of his being traded by the deadline or next off season.
It’s about time they invested in a big
Zollins isn’t a FA yet but i wonder what he’d ask for an extension after seeing what Naz got. I’m guessing 15-18 per
$14M/per for a backup C isn’t ideal. This signals to me that they’re planning on trading one of KAT or Rudy after another inevitable failure of a season though. Rumor has it they’ve already been shopping KAT before the draft. Either way, I think they eventually try to recoup some of those lost draft picks via that awful Rudy trade by shipping one of those guys out sooner rather than later.
That’s prob a pretty safe bet. He’s better than Mitc Robinson who makes $15M/per. Jarrett Allen is definitely better and makes $20M/per. So somewhere in that $15M-$18M range sounds about right, if he proves he can stay healthy for another full season.
Imagine paying Deandre Ayton $35 million a year or Zach Collins $18 million a year.
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