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    Drafting Primo 12 has to give you pause when considering the competency of this front office. The guy never showed anything to justify that pick, especially with Sengun on board. His career highlight is hitting a few threes in a preseason game.
    Okay they cannot draft. That means they cannot trade why?

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    Okay they cannot draft. That means they cannot trade why?
    You ain't asking me, but I'll answer. Because they're ing cowards.

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    Kings can only offer 3 FRPS. We can do 4 or 5 FRPs plus bunch of 2nd rounders. Brian Wright understands how to beat everyone else. He will get this done. No panic.
    Unless the Kings can offer lottery picks, the Spurs only need 1 or 2 picks of the ATL assets to outvalue any of these playoff teams.

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    Drafting Primo 12 has to give you pause when considering the competency of this front office. The guy never showed anything to justify that pick, especially with Sengun on board. His career highlight is hitting a few threes in a preseason game.
    it gets worse. after primo's rookie season they apparently thought he was a "face of the franchise" type player

    coming away with that evaluation imo is more egregious than the awful pick itself

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    Gutless worms, to be more accurate.

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    Gutless worms, to be more accurate.
    You seem to have a lot on your mind.

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    SAC receives: Lauri Markkanen/20131 pick swap

    UTA receives: Four SAC FRPs/Harrison Barnes/Kevin Huerter/Devonte Graham

    SAS receives: Trey Lyles
    I sometimes can appreciate why Mr. Body tells people to kill themselves. Not always, but sometimes.

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    it gets worse. after primo's rookie season they apparently thought he was a "face of the franchise" type player

    coming away with that evaluation imo is more egregious than the awful pick itself

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    I sometimes can appreciate why Mr. Body tells people to kill themselves. Not always, but sometimes.
    because someone made a joke?

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    it gets worse. after primo's rookie season they apparently thought he was a "face of the franchise" type player

    coming away with that evaluation imo is more egregious than the awful pick itself
    one of the all time head scratchers

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    I'm also more than slightly concerned that we're entering this mid-way point where internal improvement and CP3 get us to a 35-win team that isn't good enough to make the playoffs and get that experience, but too good to really get the draft position to inject high-end talent. Then it put extra pressure on Wemby to carry the team to greater heights all on his own. This is very much what we did to DRob. We only built a team around him that was second round fodder, and then we relied on him to do the rest of the work. It took an MVP season for him to take us to the WCF. But look at the team we put around him. Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro, Jr Reid, Chuck Person.

    Sean Elliott and Dennis Rodman were our only other above-replacement level guys on that team, and Rodman missed half the season. Why do we want to go through this again?
    That's why I still push for a vet to join that can actually start and play decent minutes. Like if DeRozan could shoot (so like Bizzaro-DeRozan), he'd be my primary target. It's crazy how bad the 2010-2015 drafts were. Outside of a couple of stars, it's just a graveyard in terms of guys who are still good players in the league today. It's why guys like Randle and Grant are even in the conversation. If only this CBA had contained an amnesty provision, the team could've made a killing off grab decent players off waivers while only paying a portion of what they were owed.

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    I sometimes can appreciate why Mr. Body tells people to kill themselves. Not always, but sometimes.
    Of course, that whole post went over your head.

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    it gets worse. after primo's rookie season they apparently thought he was a "face of the franchise" type player

    coming away with that evaluation imo is more egregious than the awful pick itself
    Thought that was more Pop than Wright+Buford. Which is even worse I think.

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    Spurs just being used to boost the trade value, tbh. Wright probably on vacation this week. Happy 4th of July!
    Let's be honest, this team doesn't have the courage to trade for Lauri, or for any player in his talent and salary range.

    Kawhi, Lamarcus, and to an extent Derozan, castrated the Spurs and they don't have the balls to do big boy trades for big boy players.

    Kawhi just told them you I don't want to be here trade me

    Lamarcus said nah I'm not coming off the bench and went home, never came back

    Derozan said pay the max or I'll play somewhere else.

    Real nba players who are good are also demanding, something they will find out the hard way dealing with Victor. He won't be a wide eyed 20 year old forever. A few more years of him watching his contemporaries teams get better while his team just keeps "keeping the powder dry" and he'll be itching to get out to. He'll stay long enough to get super maxed...which is on pace to be around 450 million dollars, and then bounce.

    The kings had Haliburton, knew he would be good, but traded him to the Pacers anyway, to get a player in Sabonis to pair with their franchise player Fox. That takes balls. Cause Haliburton came into the league on fire. From the first time he stepped on the court for the Kings he oozed gawd tier offensive talent. But the Kings picked a player, Fox, and they picked a direction, and said this is what we doing and that's just that.

    If that is the type of team who is pursuing Lauri, you think this pussy ass front office can even compete with them

    A team who signs the Mcbuckets and Collins of the world are now going to jump up out of nowhere and sign an all star caliber player shooting 50 40 90 in his prime

    This front office is just collecting picks because they are to pussy to do anything else

    These clowns had to pay Chris Paul 11 million dollars to be a babysitter

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    What kind of helps and hurts the Spurs here is that unlike the other known suitors (GSW, SAC), the Spurs can make an offer that doesn't hand control of their future over to Ainge. That is good for the Spurs... but maybe not as attractive to Ainge. Ainge already holds MIN and CLE by the ballsack, he might be salivating at the opportunity to add another pair of nuts to his wall. GSW and SAC offer him that opportunity... the Spurs do not.
    Spurs can offer them complete control over MIN though with that trade they just did…that can be attractive.

    ATL 25 + MIN 30 swap + MIN 31 unprotected + Keldon

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    That's why I still push for a vet to join that can actually start and play decent minutes. Like if DeRozan could shoot (so like Bizzaro-DeRozan), he'd be my primary target. It's crazy how bad the 2010-2015 drafts were. Outside of a couple of stars, it's just a graveyard in terms of guys who are still good players in the league today. It's why guys like Randle and Grant are even in the conversation. If only this CBA had contained an amnesty provision, the team could've made a killing off grab decent players off waivers while only paying a portion of what they were owed.
    Yeah, while we don't perfectly agree with the tactics I think you and I are pretty well aligned on the overall strategy. A move like that wouldn't be my favorite, but I'd understand it a of a lot more than just punting on Top-10 draft picks and soft tanking our way into late lotto picks.

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    because someone made a joke?
    It’s the constant negative drumbeat.

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    That's why I still push for a vet to join that can actually start and play decent minutes. Like if DeRozan could shoot (so like Bizzaro-DeRozan), he'd be my primary target. It's crazy how bad the 2010-2015 drafts were. Outside of a couple of stars, it's just a graveyard in terms of guys who are still good players in the league today. It's why guys like Randle and Grant are even in the conversation. If only this CBA had contained an amnesty provision, the team could've made a killing off grab decent players off waivers while only paying a portion of what they were owed.
    Can Johnson is a clear and obvious target. Position of need and skillset.

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    SAC receives: Lauri Markkanen/20131 pick swap

    UTA receives: Four SAC FRPs/Harrison Barnes/Kevin Huerter/Devonte Graham

    SAS receives: Trey Lyles
    Legit, the Spurs could probably use both Barnes and Lyles there. But SAC doesn't need to give up more than Barnes to make this trade work. Sub out Mark for Ingram, and these bones probably work just fine.

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    Spurs can offer them complete control over MIN though with that trade they just did…that can be attractive.

    ATL 25 + MIN 30 swap + MIN 31 unprotected + Keldon
    Two picks and a swap plus salary ballast ain't gonna get it done with Ainge. Would love to be wrong (as long as it's the Spurs getting him) but that seems more like the kind of trade you could have made with Isiah Thomas or maybe Kahn in Minnesota.

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    Can Johnson is a clear and obvious target. Position of need and skillset.
    He's not vet enough. I'm talking about over 10 years in the league. Like I wouldn't hate Graham and Collins for Grant right now, especially if they could snag a rotational center with the room exception.

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    Can Johnson is a clear and obvious target. Position of need and skillset.
    I'd offer four picks for Markannen long before I'd offer two for Johnson.

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    He's not vet enough. I'm talking about over 10 years in the league. Like I wouldn't hate Graham and Collins for Grant right now, especially if they could snag a rotational center with the room exception.
    I dont think he needs to be vet enough when the skillset is a perfect match not only starting but unlocking a lot for the other guys. Im cool with Grant too especially because hes a player that will retain value should SA only want him for a season or two and then trade him

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    Spurs can offer them complete control over MIN though with that trade they just did…that can be attractive.

    ATL 25 + MIN 30 swap + MIN 31 unprotected + Keldon
    I do not see how GSW or Sac could come close to outvaluing that with any 1 of the ATL picks.

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    I'd offer four picks for Markannen long before I'd offer two for Johnson.
    Depends on the picks. If Lauri is commanding all the ATL 25+ ATL 27 + Spurs 25 + CHI 25 (4 picks ) and Cam is commanding SA 2029 top 14 protected + CHA pick I’d easily take Cam

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