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    Johnson had nowhere to go BUT up, since his first two years were dog . Tripling garbage numbers isn’t a high bar to clear.
    Improving his numbers from first two seasons isn't a high bar, but tripling them most definitely was.
    Most importantly, he expanded his game this season. 5.5 assists for a 6'9 forward who looked like a bust is great.

    I always watch what a drafting team does, and if they decide to cut a player loose, there’s probably a reason. Daniels increased counting stats, other than his gaudy and impressive steals, are a function of increased minutes and shots. He hasn’t increased his efficiency in any meaningful way, he’s just putting up more shots.
    A good defender doesn't really have to increase his efficency if it's already solid enough. His FG% is fine, he just needs to go up by like 5% on 3pts if he's to get a big bag later on.

    It’s like when SA just gave Keldon a ton more shots, and suddenly he’s a 20 ppg scorer. New Orleans probably saw that Dyson could score more, but didn’t think his shots were worth increasing, since they already have other volume scorers like BI that aren’t super efficient, either.
    New Orleans, a team well known for making the right decisions.

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    Improving his numbers from first two seasons isn't a high bar, but tripling them most definitely was.
    Most importantly, he expanded his game this season. 5.5 assists for a 6'9 forward who looked like a bust is great.



    A good defender doesn't really have to increase his efficency if it's already solid enough. His FG% is fine, he just needs to go up by like 5% on 3pts if he's to get a big bag later on.



    New Orleans, a team well known for making the right decisions.
    They’ve actually made a number of very good ones like Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, Alvarado, Jordan Hawkins and Missi. Those just get overshadowed by the Zion debacle. They couldn’t not draft him, and I’m guessing that no one in the organization had any idea of his complete lack of work ethic and discipline. He’s literally eating his career away. You can’t even call him a mistake, just a catastrophic piece of bad luck to draft that Million Dollar talent with a five cent head.

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    They’ve actually made a number of very good ones like Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, Alvarado, Jordan Hawkins and Missi. Those just get overshadowed by the Zion debacle. They couldn’t not draft him, and I’m guessing that no one in the organization had any idea of his complete lack of work ethic and discipline. He’s literally eating his career away. You can’t even call him a mistake, just a catastrophic piece of bad luck to draft that Million Dollar talent with a five cent head.
    Their scouting department is obviously great (maybe PATFO can get some of those people), but whoever is in charge of actually running the organization needs to do a better job.
    There's always something catastrophic going on there.
    Yeah, Zion is a fatass who was probably destined to fail, but they I won't say enabled him in it, but weren't far off from it. He surely wouldn't be at risk of being out of the league if he got drafted by the Heat.

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    Again, we just need them to be in the play-in tournament and lose. Think about it this way: they could end up 10th, earn a playoff spot, and STILL fall out of the lottery. Or they can land at 7, lose, and be in the lotto. Anything can happen.

    We want the same of Chicago but in reverse.
    Exactly. People underestimate the variance of the lottery under the new odds.

    We don't really need ATL to bottom out, it'll come down to ping pong balls anyways.

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    Their scouting department is obviously great (maybe PATFO can get some of those people), but whoever is in charge of actually running the organization needs to do a better job.
    There's always something catastrophic going on there.
    Yeah, Zion is a fatass who was probably destined to fail, but they I won't say enabled him in it, but weren't far off from it. He surely wouldn't be at risk of being out of the league if he got drafted by the Heat.
    They pulled a rabbit out of their hat by getting him to sign the Max deal with weight/fitness strings attached so they can punch out any time.

    It’s tough to give tough love to a player in this day and age. I’m not sure he would have responded to it from Riley or anyone else except to demand a trade by not signing an extension.

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    Daniels and Johnson have already had their year 3 bump, and are pretty much what they’re going to be. Their ownership has continually strip mined their roster by refusing to pay even the basic luxury tax, let alone get into either apron territory. That will destroy their roster in the very near future.
    jalen turned 23 like a week ago, while daniels wont even turn 22 until later this season

    neither is done improving. and even if johnson doesnt improve any further, he's a 20/10/5.5 guy with plus defense who can also hit 3's

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    jalen turned 23 like a week ago, while daniels wont even turn 22 until later this season

    neither is done improving. and even if johnson doesnt improve any further, he's a 20/10/5.5 guy with plus defense who can also hit 3's
    You're responding to a guy who thought the Hawks had no way to improve, would be forced to sell Trae for pennies on the dollar, and have no way of avoiding being a bottom dwelling team while owned their picks. Foresight isn't exactly ex's calling card.

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    You're responding to a guy who thought the Hawks had no way to improve, would be forced to sell Trae for pennies on the dollar, and have no way of avoiding being a bottom dwelling team while owned their picks. Foresight isn't exactly ex's calling card.
    We have three years to see if what I said comes true. Their net rating is pretty negative after 30 games,meaning they aren’t this good, but rather playing way over their heads.

    The only thing I was wrong about with Trae is that there wouldn’t even be one team willing to pay pennies on the dollar for a fading no defense chucker.

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    Our Only Begotten Nephew is targeting his return game against the Hawks on the 4th, maybe he'll help the Spurs out

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    Butler out and Trae still GTD. Maybe the Heat can do us a solid today.

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    Damn Hawks looking like they going into Playoff form

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    Another W for the Hawks.

    Johnson with 28/13/5 and 2 blocks.
    Hunter with 26/6/2.
    They got arguably the best non-star wings in the league, tbh.

    Trae with 3-13 FG, 15 assists and only 3 turnovers.

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    Can anyone do the darko comparison between Hunter and Vassell? That graphic is like crack. Also, what % of the cap is Hunter taking up?

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    And their young players only go UP from here: Johnson, Daniels, Risacher

    Move those picks NOW and not when they're in the 20s and you're stuck with the next Malaki

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    Can anyone do the darko comparison between Hunter and Vassell? That graphic is like crack. Also, what % of the cap is Hunter taking up?
    $21/23/25M up until '27.

    Hawks picks are valuable in a trade because whoever gets them can trade for Hunter.
    Spurs obviously won't due to his situation with Wemby.

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    Hunter always played best off the bench, that just didn't have the justification of younger legit talent to play as starters so he was forced to start and defend the best players and attack good defenders.

    He's now in his best role. Big Brain Mitch might want to put Vassell back there

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    Big Brain Mitch might want to put Vassell back there
    Vassell isn't better of the bench, he's just less of a negative for the team.

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    lol with Our Only Begotten Nephew

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    Can anyone do the darko comparison between Hunter and Vassell? That graphic is like crack. Also, what % of the cap is Hunter taking up?
    Hunter also a dogwater defender, just has been better on offense this year, raising his overall effectiveness.




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    Back up the 5th seed, 18th pick it draft was held now

    Landry flexing

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    Anyone thinking the Nuggets can hold off the hawks tonight?

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    Anyone thinking the Nuggets can hold off the hawks tonight?
    unlikely....nuggets been looking like trash while atl looking like contenders.Hoping atl loses and chi wins tonight tho

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    bulls are such trash

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    bulls are such trash
    lol. Washington doesn’t want this game. They’ll fumble it away, intentionally or unintentionally.

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    Chicago has a gimme and they get blown out.

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