I like the phrasing "aggressively trying to trade KD", means a lower asking price.
The Spurs are not in a position to beat OKC, even with Durant. The Spurs need more long term, high end talent and quality depth. The Spurs "are ready to go" takes are premature. Durant might get us to the conference finals once in the next couple years, and then he is nearing retirement. Is it worth it for the Spurs in order to get stomped by OKC and then, when the wheels fall off Durant, reset back to the same position they're in now in 2027. A Durant move is super short-sighted.
this is the main thing people are overlooking: KD wants to come here
Spurs will try to get Okongwu from the Hawks for that
Rumor has it he's willing to extend for a discount. Not a discount of 20 million per year though. Something in the ballpark of 45-50 instead of 55 million per year. Bringing on KD could also help to negotiate a slight discount on Fox extension. And yeah if we trade for KD, we are absolutely extending him to have a 3-year window.
It's not short sighted if all you are trading is the #14th pick, Vassell and either Barnes or Keldon. The Spurs will draft another high end talent in Harper. What they need to do after getting KD is add other rotation pieces. Like I said, they supposedly are looking at Okongwu from ATL and I really want them to spend the MLE on LaRavia.
OKC is far from a superteam and the NBA is wide open. This move is perfect because you get KD while Castle and Wemby are still on rookie contracts. It's actually the move I've been hoping for since we won the lottery in 2023.
Encouraging news. Spurs will be so much better with Durant. If the price is only Keldon, Vassell and 14 this would be a robbery. His extension will be fine as well, Spurs can handle it.
The end goal is always a championship for any NBA team. If you go out and play a professional game and think I can't win it all you are in the wrong sport.
The biggest issue with Vassell going the other way is that we'd need to find a third team.
Unless Suns are blowing it up and also trading Booker, they won't take Vassell.
where is this okongwu rumor coming from? Hes who i want sorber to be and its perfect
His extension will end just before Castle’s comes on line. They’ll have one year of Wemby/Fox/Durant all being paid, but with the contracts being sent out, one year will be fine.
If the price for KD is Devin/Keldon/14th, I'd pay for the air fare myself tbh.
I heard a rumor. Don't know if it's true but this dude has been calling KD to the Spurs since February. Apparently the Spurs are looking at Okongwu and several outlets said there's some noise about the Spurs trying to draft Maluach. Maluach is one of the few players in the draft that's signed to Klutch. Some people been saying Klutch is trying to help the Spurs build this roster.
All of this has made me come to the conclusion that the Spurs are probably putting the ATL 27 pick up. Either for Okongwu or to move up in the draft and get Maluach as a plan B. Makes sense because if you get KD you might as well fix all the other holes while you're at it, so we can contend right away. Besides that ATL has built a pretty good roster around Trae and I have no clue how good the 2027 draft is. That's just my assumption though.
not sure, Phoenix has lowered their asking price. At this point they are glad to get something back. One thing could be Devin to ATL and Okongwu to the Spurs + filler to Phoenix. Or Devin to Cavs for Allen or Nets for Claxton and that big to Phoenix. Plenty of possibilities.
PHX:
Vassell
Branham
#14
SAS
KD
OO
ATL
Keldon
HB
ATL 2027 FRP
2025 SRP #38
Who says no? Probably ATL?
The Spurs need to make the playoffs before they can even think about championships.
People here don’t understand just how fast it’s going to happen. Imagine the Wemby/Fox PnR. It’s going to be a ing problem. Now, imagine help coming, and KD left unguarded. Completely unguarded. Now, imagine the KD/Wemby PnR. Un ing guardable.
If the Spurs trade for KD and sign him to a two year extension, it will happen in those three years.
That would be awesome! Hope you are right, but I definitely have concerns with KD’s health history and the potential for the spurs getting destroyed on the boards like they did last season.
I assume KD plays SF? Who’s your target for starting PF and backup C?
KD can't play SF anymore, too slow.
We'd ideally get an elite defender at SF...if only Jeremy could shoot.
With KD playing opposite, you can absolutely start Sochan. For backup C, you can grab almost anyone who can rebound and defend a bit. Capela, Lopez, even Biyambo did a good job at the tail end of the season, coming in cold.
The question is if we can start Sochan and Castle, not if we can start Sochan and KD.
Also, trends are always set by the best teams. If our guards can penetrate the paint enough and if KD/Wemby are efficent enough from perimeter and mid-range, others will have to adjust to the Spurs because even if rebounding stays suboptimal, very few teams will be able to keep up with the Spurs offensive output.
Okongwu could play minutes at the 4 next to Wemby as well as back up C.
I‘d sign LaRavia with the MLE. He‘s mobile enough to play the 3 and the 4. He can switch on to guards and he’s a shooter. Those 2 with KD and Sochan would give you plenty of line up possibilities and we‘d still have Champagnie.
Something like this?
Fox/Harper
Castle/-
Sochan/LaRavia
KD/Champagnie
Wemby/Okongwu
Looks like a solid 9 man rotation. Okongwu isn't a completel non-shooter, he punished Spurs for daring him to shoot in Fox's debut.
I'd probably offer the Suns a lottery protected pick for Durant. Maybe one next year. They have no choice but to trade Durant and if he decides he wants to come here, why give up the 14th pick when you can get him for less? I'm not sure many people can absorb his contract, extend him, and surround him with young talent that he could lead to a deep run in the playoffs, assuming health. Durant fills a position of need for the Spurs and if we could do a two year deal, it would be a perfect transition. My guess is he will still be a good player for the next two years and certainly will be a good shooter. He will probably exclusively play the 4 spot. The only other real compe ion is Houston, but playing with Fox, Castle, Harper, and Wemby would have to be more appealing.
This is effectively what Mo and I have talked about in another thread. Add NAW to that mix, and swap Champ with Sochan (you can start either Champ or LaRavia) and I think you're golden. Until Sochan can shoot at least semi-respectably, I don't think he can start. We're playing 4 on 5 with him until then.
I wonder, if in the framework of the deal we've been discussing for KD/and/or Okongwu, if there's a way to involve a 4th team to make Phoenix better next year? At least make them mediocre so Houston doesn't end up with high lottery picks from their Phoenix picks.
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