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Holy ing s...Sayid killed Ben!
DAMN wtf!!! How do people catch that .
Holy ing s...Sayid killed Ben!
Don't be tricked.
Ben survives.
If Ben doesn't survive, Sayid would have no reason to kill him.
Or...
That wasn't Ben at all...
I was shocked as well, wtf is Sayid going to do now? I thought he was about to kill himself before he ran off, but thank goodness he didn't!
How do we know Ben survives? Maybe he's erased from existance now? But I am leaning more towards tp2021's theory that the kid wasn't really the Ben we know.
I'm really tired of the whole Kate-Sawyer thing, and I was a little disappointed that we didn't find anything about about Sun trying to get to the past with everyone else, but overall a good episode.
Ben can't be dead cos you can't change the past according to faraday or maybe Sayid did kill Ben and the island heals him, I guess we will have to wait and see.
very good episode, there needs to be more Sayid-centric episodes and less Jack/kate centric-episodes
IF that was the real Ben. I was shocked as to see Sayid shoot him. This episode disappointed me a little, all we saw was what happened to Sayid getting seduced by that chick who ended up arresting him.
Yea, getting annoyed with the Kate/Sawyer thing.I'm still betting that Juliet ends up pregnant.
He's Our YOU.....the le of the episode.Dharma's version of Sayid.
The island already has resurrected Christian Shepard and John Locke. Why would resurrecting Benjamin Linus be a problem?
It would be a bit of a new wrinkle since Ben is the only one of the three to die on the island, but I agree there's no way in he doesn't come back.
The Island healed a bullet wound to Locke's heart courtesy of Ben himself. I'm sure it can do the same for an innocent Ben.
Good point.
Why immediately assume that was not Ben, or that he is not dead? Remember all that mumbo jumbo about everything "course correcting" or whatever. Maybe Ben was suppossed to die for a LOOONG time now, but the island brought Sayid back at this moment to take care of it. There's a reason why Sayid was not returned to the island with Jack, Kate, and Hurley...but still brought back in the same timeline (unlike Sun).
John Locke was shot through the spot where his kidney used to be. If his father had not swindled him out of the kidney, Locke would have been killed.
Killing Ben would create a paradox. Ben would never grow up. There would be no Purge. Radzinsky would not be stuck in the Swan with Kelvin. Kelvin would never find Desmond. Desmond would not be pushing the button. He would never be late in pushing the button when he followed Kelvin to the boat and killed him. Flight 815 would never crash. Sayid would never end up in 1977 and would not kill Ben.
With the violation of causality, the universe would cease to exist the moment Ben died. Therefore, Ben either will not die or will not stay dead. This experience probably will end up changing him from the nice 12-year-old boy to the manipulative, twisted Ben, and put into motion the events that lead to the Purge.
The premise of time travel being followed on the show is, "whatever happened, happened." Characters do not have the ability to change the past or create alternate timelines. The actions they take in the past cause the reality that motivates them to take those actions. The exception to this rule apparently is Desmond, and his "specialness" probably will be central to how the story ultimately plays out.
This show needs to cut to the damn point.
Filler bs for 45 minutes, then a little teaser at the end.
Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat
With the violation of causality, the universe would cease to exist the moment Ben died. Therefore, Ben either will not die or will not stay dead. This experience probably will end up changing him from the nice 12-year-old boy to the manipulative, twisted Ben, and put into motion the events that lead to the Purge.
That's right. He did shoot that er in the kidney area. You would think Locke would stop trusting him right about then.
All that stuff can still happen without Ben. Especially if it was the island's intent that someone other than Ben be the catalyst.
I cant believe these ers are still lost ...
Oh they aren't LOST anymore, some left the island, but then they went back.I cant believe these ers are still lost ...
Oh right the island was calling them right?Oh they aren't LOST anymore, some left the island, but then they went back.
"come to me"
Oh right the island was calling them right?
"come to me"
Is Sawyer still lost?
I'd like to find him ...
Under my covers of course
Sayid kills Ben.
Sayid therefore never meets Ben and has no motivation to kill him.
Sayid therefore does not kill Ben.
Sayid therefore meets Ben and has motivation to kill Ben.
Sayid therefore kills Ben.
A and not A.
Do you not see that it is a paradox?
And before you reply, "something else could happen that could cause Sayid to kill Ben," did you ever stop to think why the writers of the show would spend years presenting a narrative which in the end never would really happen?
No, the writers have presented their "rules." They are explained through the character Daniel Faraday. In his notebook he has notes about Closed Timelike Curves and the Novikov Self-Consistency Principle. Faraday tells us "whatever happened, happened," and says that Desmond Hume somehow is "special," and the rules don't apply to him, because something happened when he turned the failsafe key.
Where is Daniel Faraday by the way???
I came across this theory, pinned on the wall of a fellow lostie.
Thought I would share, seems interesting.
http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html
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