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I though somebody called him "the flat-footed center from Argentina"
You conveniently forget about Parker being flattened with no call, but oh, well.
I though somebody called him "the flat-footed center from Argentina"
Essay, I guess you are a pussy then because I remember this board blaming the refs for your losses against the Mavericks in the second round last year.
Time to trade the fool
Just wanna give you props for your intelligent and well-written analysis of the game (and the Suns' weaknesses). You should be writing articles. I'd read them.
yeh, but karma prevailed in the finals hahahhaaEssay, I guess you are a pussy then because I remember this board blaming the refs for your losses against the Mavericks in the second round last year.
Cry me a ing river, loser. Your team is soft. STFU.
So, can I gather that no one else within this thread is tired of flopping? if I can guage the responses, or rather lack thereof, to indicate this, my only question is why do you like flopping? The act itself lends to injury, not just for the flopper (he who flops) or the floppee (he who charges), but, as exampled by Barbosa last year, innocent bystanders as well. I think it's reckless, dangerous and silly and that it's become too much of a defensive staple in too many players games.
I hated it the first time I saw Derek Fisher play and I hate it even more now that a half-dozen players on a team employ the tactic.
I guess I'm alone in my quest - for now - but I figure there will come a day when a star player goes down and goes down hard and for a very long time and everyone's preception of this "defense" changes. It's really a weak way to defend. I know for some it's truly a skill (Bell, Manu, Fisher), but if you went back and counted, I'd bet there's roughly 6-8 offensive fouls called a game with roughly half of those being flops. I think it would help to open the game up more. Perhaps that why Spurs fans dislike it and why I, as a Suns fan, would like it, but overall, I think it lends itself fairly to every team as defenses who almost entirely get by on their ability to draw charges (like Phoenix) would be weakened even more than a defense like San Antonio where it's only one trick of many.
but hey, to each his own...
we must prepare for the Rockets.
Thanks... Unfortunately, not many seem to be in the talking mood, as opposed to the celebratory mood, which I guess should be expected.
Oh well... Maybe I'll garner a few replies tomarrow?! *fingers crossed*
speaking of Dallas looks like they are struggling again.
the Nuggets lost their 3rd too! and it was against NY.
Smeagol,
Cry me a ing river yourself. Thats what you guys did last year when you lost to the Mavs for the same type of stuff. I would not exactly call the Spur that tough defensively this year. We still shot a high percentage and your team shot poorly. Free throws won you the game plain and simple!
TDMVPDPOY,
Karma may be a but it still does not excuse your fans from blaming the refs anymore than I have tonight.
acc. to Express News...
Oberto's 11-for-11 performance broke the franchise record set by Mark Olberding in 1977 and tied by Gene Banks in '83.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/b...r.2ff50fe.html
I used to think blaming the refs was weak. Now I see it's a pretty natural reaction, no matter how good a team is or how educated or classy their fans are.
I've seen many on this site blame the refs and that's not an indictment for anyone NOW blaming the refs to continue. I'm just saying that after a tough loss I can now see why some fans feel the need. There's always toss up calls in a game and for the large part the home team gets them. If the home team happens to be the more agressive of the two teams playing, they may very well net a larger share than just by simply being the home team.
Personally, I'd blame the missed FT by Bell or the moronic and-1 by Nash on Parker with just under a minute remaining that gave San Antonio a lead rather than simply tieing the game. Perhaps the game plays out different had Nash just let Parker go, but that one FT sure looms large now, doesn't it?!
Just a thought. Players play. Referees ref. Players play despite how the referees ref. I guess that's what I'm getting at. 90% of the cases where the refs are charged with "handing another team a win" it's simply not the case.
I'd imagine roughly the same percentage of fans who blame truly don't mean it, but are rather just blowing off steam.
One penny + one penny = two cents... There's mine, take it for what it's worth.
Spurs vs Mia, det or Chi in finals?
Cleveland can beat any of those teams on any given night. Not sure about a series, but I think any of the three you mentioned and possibly Cleveland by year's end could be the team to lose to the Spurs...
OMG, Dallas lost again.
i just can't believe it. Really!
i wish i hear something from Cuban.
The flopping has gotten out of control, but unfortunately as long as there is a charging rule in basketball there will be flopping. It is almost impossible for a referee to judge some of these calls as flopping when there are so many things to watch at any given moment.
Dallas had a big lead early but completely folded and ended up losing badly to the Clips. Talk about stumbling out of the gate.
I think the new rules emphasis is cutting down on the number of offensive fouls called, and thus eventually the value of flopping is going to be diminished. My sense over the first few games is that refs are being overall more stringent about needing to be in a good defensive position and being set before they'll call it offensive.
On the other hand, they seem to be calling moving screens more than last year, when it was a complete joke what you could get away with.
I applaud both trends.
Mavs scored 32 in the first period, then 53 over the next three quarters.
Being "bumped like a pin ball" is not the fault of (nor deserving of fouls from) the Spurs but the result of how Nash goes into the lane. One could argue that it is also Ginobili who gets "bumped like a pinball" whenever he drives into the lane as well. Does that mean they should automatically get the call when they throw their bodies in amongst the big centers and forwards?
The Spurs deserved more free throws than Phoenix with their aggressiveness, their post play, and ball movement which constantly caught Phoenix defenders out of position when shots were taken. The Spurs deserved this win and were not awarded this victory by the referees.
With Dallas losing, who's terrible start is more surprising? Phoenix (1-4 vs. 2 Clippers, 1 Lakers, 1 Jazz, 1 Spurs) or the Mavs (0-4, 1 Spurs, 1 Rockets, 1 Warriors, 1 Clippers) and which team would you expect to pull out of it. By raw numbers it looks like the Mavericks could be 2-2, having two blowout losses while the Suns have lead in the fourth in every game they've played.
I'd say Dallas is more surprising, but Phoenix has slightly better opportunity to pull out of the funk. Dallas is good, but they went against modern conventional basketball last year by being a very, very good isolation offense-based team. Suns, meanwhile, play a sloppy, but more conventional brand of team ball that, when things are going bad, goes really, really bad, but when things are going good, goes really, really good.
With all the negative I've said about the Suns, I still expect 50+ wins (around 51-57, target of 54). I think their schedule has had as much to do with their record as their issues. They've really played a brutal schedule with their weakest game being Utah, a team that traditionally gives them fits anyways.
Dallas has really only played well in the opener vs. San Antonio.
I assume you say that to all the Neo ConsThanks TPark, you right wing ho - just kidding.
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