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    ROFL @ A Laker Fan who thinks the NBA conspires against the Lakers. I think that's the definition of lunacy in the dictionary. Every year the Lakers don't win the championship, that costs the NBA hundreds of millions of dollars.

    The NBA isn't rigged. But to anyone who thinks it is or ever was rigged against the Lakers is in desperate need of a reality check. If there's one team in sport that can be confident that the refs aren't trying to make them lose, it's the Los Angeles Lakers. When the commissioner comes out and says he wishes every Finals could be Lakers vs. Lakers, that's when it's time to retire the tin hat.
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    It's not ing rigged for anyone. Good grief.

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    So you when Spurs fans don't see it your way, and you when they do? You can't have it both ways. Hey, those Spurs fans who whine and about officiating and blame that as the only reason SA loses, I agree with you about them, but its not all of us. Its a very vocal minority.
    I read this thread, 90% of it is ing and whining about the NBA and conspiracies. If you have a problem with generalizations, then either have me banned or put me on ignore. It's really that simple.

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    It's not ing rigged for anyone. Good grief.
    Now that, I agree with.

    Anyone who pulls the rigged card, even Spurs fans, is ing stupid, IMO.

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    I read this thread, 90% of it is ing and whining about the NBA and conspiracies. If you have a problem with generalizations, then either have me banned or put me on ignore. It's really that simple.
    I can't have you banned and why should I put you on ignore? I enjoy the debate.

    But I do agree with you about this particular thread.

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    Oh you ing Spur s would be ing about something else if wasn't for that last play. Always an excuse, always a conspiracy when the Spurs don't win. Bunch of predictable tools.

    You're just a bunch of whiny es. Always have been, always will be.

    Fisher's shot hit the rim conspiracy dumb s.

    The mind numbing rants of these Laker "fans" on OUR site is getting old. Dropping FBombs and name calling every other sentence is not very impressive.

    It's been a week and a half of this garbage spewing into ST. I would say maybe 10-20% of the Laker fans posting here have a reasonable point of view. The rest seem to be on meds.

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    Every year the Lakers don't win the championship, that costs the NBA hundreds of millions of dollars.
    No it doesn't.

    I know you are a small town guy so maybe it is hard to face the facts.

    The facts are the NBA has already made their money, no matter what two teams play in the Finals or what team wins a championship. They don't make any more money if the Memphis Grizzlies win the Championship or if the NY Knicks do.

    The people who do make more money is the owners who get additional playoff games and the network ad guys who sell tv ads.

    But the NBA itself makes it's money on the TV contract, not on who wins the le. You could argue if it gets too boring (Spurs-Cavs finals, Spurs-Pistons finals, etc) that they will make LESS money at the NEXT contract negotiation, but that is still a hard sell considering the money goes up and up every time.

    So to make a statement like the one I quoted above is not intelligent. But I know you are smarting from the game tonight, imagine how bad a loss that would have been for the Lakers after leading the entire game and then you might know what true basketball pain really is.

    Either way, I would be ecstatic if Joey Crawford not only never officiated any more Spurs games, but no longer officiated ANY NBA games going forward. Controversy and bad calls follow this guy around.

    Barry did travel by the way and the refs did miss THREE other calls all in your team's favor in the last minute before that play. But I think you already knew that right?

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    Oh please Mr. Hypocrite (aka Harry Calahan or I am so gay I still worship Dirty Harry), I've read your verbal diarrhea since got here. Don't give me this holier than thou bull .

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    The mind numbing rants of these Laker "fans" on OUR site is getting old. Dropping FBombs and name calling every other sentence is not very impressive.

    It's been a week and a half of this garbage spewing into ST. I would say maybe 10-20% of the Laker fans posting here have a reasonable point of view. The rest seem to be on meds.
    IMO, its the 10-20% who are the assholes, but they get noticed more.

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    It's not ing rigged for anyone. Good grief.
    It was rigged for Dwade. That was the only series where I thought the NBA was favoring one team. If Brent was Dwade, he definitely would've gotten that call.

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    I can't have you banned and why should I put you on ignore? I enjoy the debate.

    But I do agree with you about this particular thread.
    I'm sure I'll be banned soon, so you won't have to worry about my generalizations much longer.

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    It was rigged for Dwade. That was the only series where I thought the NBA was favoring one team. If Brent was Dwade, he definitely would've gotten that call.
    Then why watch the games if you believe this?

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    I'm sure I'll be banned soon, so you won't have to worry about my generalizations much longer.
    Actually you probably won't. The owners of this site are really cool. You have to really, really try to get banned.

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    i dont care what happened before or what calls were made or not made or missed or whatever

    THAT LAST PLAY WAS A FOUL ---- A FOUL. PERIOD

    you call that 1 minute into the game or 47 minutes into the game. It should not matter.

    YOU ARE A REF with NO AGENDA, NEUTRAL, there for the sake of the teams, players and fans who paid to see a basketball game, not you.

    You call fouls because it was a foul NOT BECAUSE you DON'T want to bail someone out, thats nowhere in the rule book .

    IT DOESN'T MATTER, shouldn't matter.

    You are there to call a match neutral with no stake in the outcome. Either way, road or home.

    TNT says, "the shooter didnt sell it" and "they don't call those at the end of the game"

    A shooter needs to "act and sell it" in order to get a foul called? But then now, you try to "sell it" and they penalize you for flopping...

    Why not just whisper into the players ear like the WWE refs do when they need to pass instructions?



    This is sad that all playoff games have some sort of REF drama and presence. Since 2000 when the Lakers came into the national scene with the Shaq and Kobe team.


    Too many times we worry who the next refs will be, that shouldn't be the case, EVER.


    This is about the game and about the players, not about the Refs.

    A FOUL IS A FOUL and that was corrupt and personal by Crawford.

    Sasha got a touch foul 3 pointer and 1, while this play by Barry is not a foul?

    If the same play was made at Minute 25, it would of been called a foul, why not in the end? The rulebook gives no time limits on certain fouls.

    Gimmie a Break.

    Kobe would of gotten that call, I BET ANYTHING HE WOULD been given that foul.

    Combine all this with the other game where the Celtics got close to 40 FT and still lost to Detroit.

    The fix is in this year more than ever.

    A year with dropped ad revenue, attendance and ratings.

    BOSTON vs. LAKERS = huge interest from all markets.


    Oh how I wish the NBA treated and ran the refs like MLB does with it's umpires.


    In baseball, betting on the game or throwing a game is no nonsense serious ever since the 1919 White Soxs, complete with lifetime ban, no bull or playing around from the comissioner down.

    In the NBA, the refs scandals is business as usual since the league was taken over by Marketing genius David Stern who is there to sell entertainment first, a game second.


    The NBA needs international refs , something to clean the game from these biased and agenda driven marketing arms of David Stern.

    The NBA needs a committee that is set up independently from the league to monitor questionable games, where there is no fear of retaliation from Stern.

    When boxing was being accused of throwing fights, the government stepped in, when Horse Racing was being questioned, an independent panel was created, when MLB was questioned back since the 1900's, harsh punishment came down from the commissioner in order to protect the intregity of the game.

    In baseball there is no thought of betting, throwing games and so forth, no one checks for the umpires before the game.

    The NBA thought it cleaned up its allegations with an quick press release about Tim Donahue scandal but Stern's rotten apples are still lingering around ready for the next cue.
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    What about Fisher's "airball" genius? That was a good call right?

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    No it doesn't.

    I know you are a small town guy so maybe it is hard to face the facts.
    ROFL. That's classic. A small town guy? Is this kindergarten smack talk?

    The facts are the NBA has already made their money, no matter what two teams play in the Finals or what team wins a championship. They don't make any more money if the Memphis Grizzlies win the Championship or if the NY Knicks do.
    LOL

    Seriously, that's what you think? That might be the funniest paragraph ever posted on SpursTalk. You obviously don't work in business, marketing, advertising or any related field.

    Wow. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.

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    Was he always corrupt according to Lanny or is it just when the Lakers don't win?
    I thought it was one of the worst officiated games against the Lakers I have ever seen tonight. And they still won.

    Take any three average HS refs and have them do tonight's game and it would have been a blowout win for the Lakers.

    Spurs shot 40%, got killed on their defensive glass and were slow to react to loose balls. They also never led even once in a home game. Not a good one for them obviously.

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    It was a game the Spurs NEVER deserved. Even Spurfan knows it. The officiating was mind-numbingly bad for the Lakers, but it is what it is...a win.

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    And Gasols hack of Duncan that got them the ball back with a minute left?

    Oh yeah...different game

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    I thought it was one of the worst officiated games against the Lakers I have ever seen tonight. And they still won.

    Take any three average HS refs and have them do tonight's game and it would have been a blowout win for the Lakers.

    Spurs shot 40%, got killed on their defensive glass and were slow to react to loose balls. They also never led even once in a home game. Not a good one for them obviously.
    Unless the Lakers lost and then the HS refs would be corrupt too.

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    I thought it was one of the worst officiated games against the Lakers I have ever seen tonight. And they still won.

    Take any three average HS refs and have them do tonight's game and it would have been a blowout win for the Lakers.

    Spurs shot 40%, got killed on their defensive glass and were slow to react to loose balls. They also never led even once in a home game. Not a good one for them obviously.
    Explain to me why the NBA would be rigged against the Lakers. I seriously want to hear this explanation.

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    Wow. Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
    I do what I can Sir!

    Have a good evening.

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    A foul is a foul. But its not always called.

    Besides, if the Spurs hadn't missed so many wide open looks, it wouldn't have mattered.

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    Unless the Lakers lost and then the HS refs would be corrupt too.

    i never trusted those HS refs

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    Explain to me why the NBA would be rigged against the Lakers. I seriously want to hear this explanation.

    Because Stern wants to show that small market teams can win and that his cap works...blah blah blah...


    He just conveniently ignores the part about

    "I want to see the Lakers VS the Lakers."

    It's called audacity.

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