It's pretty much on record that Ginobili was a fluke.
Mahinmi is a ridiculous comparison to use as a baseline. Splitter's older, played major minutes at a higher level, and isn't considered completely raw coming in. Oberto is probably a much more realistic baseline. Not that Oberto's minutes in 2005-2006 should be enticing to him, but there is no reason - unless we hear otherwise - to expect the Spurs to relegate him to the D-League.
Agree, he's got to look out for himself financially. I'm sure you all would do the same.
Agreed, but there is absolutely no precedence for the Spurs playing young players big minutes. The only one was Parker and that is ancient history at this point. Between playing expected minutes in a comfortable situation for a very good team where you currently live (and for more money) and an uncertain situation where you may very well, and for reasons out of your control, not play very much (and for much less money), the answer seems pretty obvious. The only thing the Spurs seem to have going for them is the ability to hold Splitter out of the NBA forever if he doesn't come now.
On what record?
Dylan's "Positively 4th Street"?
I mean they just took a swing. And could barely decide btw him and Giricek years later when they both were ready to come over. Maybe fluke's too strong a word, but at least a happy accident. It's not like R.C. was a genius there more than lucky.
Speaking of Giricek. Just realized this is the year we might have to resign him.
Barely decide? They shipped Giricek off and went with Ginobili. Just because they held Giricek's rights for a couple years doesn't mean that they thought he was better than Ginobili.
How does Tiago compare with Andris Biedrins? Is Tiago anything like Andris Biedrins in terms of having quick feet for a 7 footer, good shot blocker, able to finish at the rim? If Tiago is anything close to Biedrins, then the Spurs MUST convince him to come here.
RC Bufford is actually on the record saying they didn't know what they were getting with Manu. They were even looking at Lucas Victoriano instead of Manu, but RC felt Pop wouldn't play a foreign PG in the team.
Sure, you don't ever know exactly what you are getting with a player. More news @11.
If the Spurs want Splitter, Pop needs to go talk to him.
he has done that during the season with Stoudamire (big deal).
Show him they bet on him.
On the other hand, it would make a lot of sense for Splitter to sign a fatter contract now, and join the Spurs in two years time when his minutes will certainly be up.
The way he improved this year, he could be really good in 2 years time.
The Spurs need him sooner?
Too bad.
Thanks Nono. Sparky, this is correct. They were close to going with Giricek because he was a better jumpshooter.
What is correct? That they went with Ginobili over Giricek? Um, yeah. They didn't exactly hesitate on deciding who was better.
So RC picked two guys who both are still in the league, made the right call on who was better, and this is a bad thing?
Sparky...
*facepalm*
The Spurs weren't close at all to going with Giricek over Ginobili, especially considering that Ginobili was coming off tearing up the Euroleagues in the summer of '02. You can find an old Buck Harvey article written in the summer of '01 after the WCF debacle in the previous playoffs about how Manu was the Kobe of Europe or whatever and the Spurs were bringing him over the next summer.
The only question was whether or not the Spurs would bring in Giricek as well.
*palmface*
RC made his good share of mistakes too. Going all out for JKidd and Scola come to mind.
Actual thinking about this what you bring up here Javtokas is similar to Biedrins.
I mean that Javtokas is similar to Biedrins.
Yes but Javtokas considers Francisco Elson tough compe ion, meanwhile Biedrins would easily beat him out of a rotation spot.
Yet one of them is available. *shrugs* That bird's flown, however.
I wouldn't be so certain. Since it's possible the Spurs won't be able to get Splitter for a couple of years, maybe they make a short-term offer to Javtokas and see what happens. I'm interested to see if that bridge is completely burned, especially considering how much people are talking Javtokas up after his year with Dynamo.
Tiago's best advantage is probably his lateral quickness for a legit 7 footer.... he would be awesome guarding the Pick and Rolls... we could switch witout getting killed with him.
Biedrins is probably more athletic and a better rebounder... but Tiago is no slouch.
Splitter on the other hand... has a much better post games... if you watch the clip i posted on Page 27 or so.... he shows more post moves in a 2 minute clip than Biedrins has shown in his entire career.
Let Christmas come early... We need Splitter
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