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Was anyone from the Bundy standoff ever charged with anything?
terrorism is violence or threat of violence (as in armed to the teeth with high capacity guns) for political purposes.
Repugs ridicule PC? Well, then 'em, the Burns Buttholes are ARMED INSURRECTIONIST TERRORISTS.
Was anyone from the Bundy standoff ever charged with anything?
I hope they all get arrest and charged with trespassing, maybe destruction of property, at very minimum.
BLM backing down against the Bundy ranch terrorists and letting slide Bundy's $1M unpaid fees was a big mistake. That mofo lied about the history of ownership of the property. Other ranchers paid, and pay up. But this Moroni Mormon/sovereign asshole needs get his fat butt kicked, and his property forecosed, seized and sold at auction to recover the $1M fees, just like any foreclosed homeowner.
Did you hope the same for the occupy wall street and black lives matter protesters that broke the same laws?
OWS and BLM had and have legit grievances. These Bundy Burns Buttholes got no grieveances. Were OWS and BLM armed to the teeth?
These Two Photos Are Worth a Million Words in Explaining Oregon Militia Leader Blain Cooper
In the first picture, freedom-loving Blain Cooper is in his full "militia" garb, ready for an armed struggle with authorities . In the second, he rubs bacon on a Koran before burning it.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/these-two-photos-are-worth-million-words-explaining-oregon-militia-leader-blain?akid=13851.187590.747oU8&rd=1&src=newsletter 1048451&t=10
That claim that they set the fire to cover up killing a deer/s is ludicrous.
So you are okay with laws being broken as long as you agree with the grievances?
“So that they can claim their on rights so that they can begin using them, and then they can stand strong enough to defend them themselves. And then we will go home,” he explained. “It is our goal
to get the logger back to logging,
to get the rancher back to ranching,
to get the miner back to mining,
the farmer back to farming.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/ammon-bundy-justifies-federal-land-takeover-with-same-argument-bush-made-for-invading-iraq/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29
So butthole Bundy speaks the truth, it's all about BigCorp raping public lands
Wow, Megyn Kelly just reduced Ammon Bundy to a silly, blathering fool
Kelly File host Megyn Kelly last night shut down a slack-jawed Ammon Bundy caught starting a rhetorical game he would no doubt lose.
“How is what you are doing not lawlessness?” Kelly began.
“I think we have to go to the supreme law of the land to answer that question,” Bundy rebutted. “The Federal Government does not have the authority to come down into the states and to control its land and resources.”
Kelly reminded Bundy that Dwight and Steven Hammond, the father and son ranchers whose arrests sparked the protests, “had their day in court, and they were found guilty and it went all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, which denied their appeal.”
“Let me ask you,” Bundy said. “Who was the plaintiff?”
Following a pause, Kelly told Bundy to “keep going.”
“No, I’m asking,” Bundy tried again. “Who was the plaintiff against the Hammonds?”
“I’m waiting for you to make your point. Generally I don’t answer the questions on my show; I ask them.”
Bundy fumbled a bit before spitting up an answer to his own question: “The plaintiff is the Federal Government. The prosecutors is [sic.] the federal government.”
http://www.salon.com/2016/01/05/wow_...athering_fool/
I take threat by force of arms to be a form of violence but I can see the wisdom in judging by actions and not intent. Threat of force is key in the whole terror thing though. The comparison to actual terrorists is completely valid.
You sure convinced me.
Don't need convincing if you just use your brain. If you had just poached a deer the last thing you would do is start a fire which would immediately attract attention to the location as people rushed to put it out.
You can easily cover the evidence of shooting a deer with a few shovels of dirt.
Cause investigators don't look for disturbed ground. Thanks, thuglife.
This isn't CSI National Forest dufus....
The PWS rangers were actively looking for poachers no?
This isn't CSI National Forest dufus....
Do you have any information regarding the campsite or anything else they allegedly were trying to hide? You are the one saying its stupid. Well regale us with your knowledge. You sound like partschanger right now.
Accuser Dusty Hammond
(o) Federal attorneys, Frank Papagni, hunted down a witness who was not mentally capable to be credible. Dusty Hammond (grandson and nephew) testified that Steven told him to start a fire. He was 13-years-old at the time, and 24-years-old when he testified (11 years later). At 24 Dusty had been suffering with mental problems for many years. He had estranged his family including his mother. Judge Hogan noted that Dusty’s memories as a 13-year-old boy were not clear or credible. However, Judge Hogan allowed the prosecution to continually use Dusty’s testimony.
They should've shot the first Bundy guy for having Snipers trained on ATF agents and we wouldn't be having to deal with this bull from these ing Taliban wannabes
What mental problems?
Made up ones?
In Oregon, Myth Mixes With Anger
The implication was clear: If they got rid of the federal government, they’d have control over their land and lives again.
This version of history bears little resemblance to the actual past. Before the federal agencies came to eastern Oregon, large ranching operations from California had monopolized hundreds of thousands of acres of rangeland. Irrigation developers controlled water, cattle barons controlled the grass, and settlers were essentially locked out. Tensions were high.
When mythic histories supplant the complexities of the past, the results can be lethal. Equitable futures for Western public lands won’t be achieved when ideologues swagger in, brandishing guns and taking over federal buildings.
Rather, they develop from the hard work of collaboration, like the 2013 effort that brought together the local community, tribes, conservation groups and the state and federal governments to develop a new management plan for Malheur. These are the efforts that best respect the region’s history while pointing the way to a sustainable future.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/opinion/in-oregon-myth-mixes-with-anger.html
iow, the Moroni Mormon offs are your typical, ignorant, religious rurals INVADING an area that has been contentious for 100+ years, and mainly destroyed long ago by outsider BigBeef, not by BigGov.
A White Man Just Can’t Catch A Break
He brought his rifle up at the sound of footsteps crunching the Oregon snow. “Who goes there? Stop and be recognized.”
A weary voice answered out of the darkness. “It’s me, Sam. It’s Bud.”
“Give me the password.”
“Come on, Sam. Stop foolin’ around.”
“The password,” Sam insisted.
Bud sighed. “‘Patriots act.’ Are you happy now?”
Sam lowered the weapon as Bud stepped out of the trees into the meager circle of moonlight. “Can’t be too careful,” he said. He cupped his hands and blew into them. It was cold out here. “So where you been?” he asked.
“Down to the front gate.”
Sam grinned. “Bet you it’s a zoo, bunch of satellite trucks and media elites standing around. Who all’s down there? CNN? NBC? CBS? Sure hope Fox sends that Megyn Kelly. That babe can interview me anytime.”
Bud shook his head. “Ain’t much media down there at all.”
“Oh. Cops are keepin’ em back, huh?”
“Hardly any cops, neither.”
Sam had been stamping his feet trying to bring back circulation. Now he paused, looking over at Bud in shock. “No cops?”
“Not so’s you’d notice.”
“Do they know we took over a federal facility?”
“Yup.”
“I mean, it’s only a wildlife refuge in the boonies, but it’s still federal property, ain’t it?”
“Yup.”
“So that’s treason or somethin’, right?”
“You’d think.”
“Do they know Cliven Bundy’s sons are out here with us? Do they know we’re supporting local ranchers against federal tyranny?”
“They know.”
“Do they know we’re armed? Do they know we’re ready to shoot it out? Do they know we’re ready to die — and to take some of them with us?”
“Yup, yup and yup.”
“And they’re still ignoring us?”
“Appears that way.”
“ ,” said Sam. Cold smoke drifted from his mouth. He couldn’t feel his fingers. “ ,” he said again. “That ain’t fair.”
“How do you mean?” Bud stood hunched over, his hands pinned in his armpits.
“You think if a bunch of damn Muslims had took this place over, the cops and the media would be diddling around like this? You wouldn’t be able to think for the helicopters buzzing overhead. You’d be blinded by the TV lights. They’d send Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, Lester Holt. , even if we was just black, they’d at least send Geraldo Rivera. But a bunch of white men? Nothin’.”
“I’m not so sure,” said Bud thoughtfully, “I mean, the media did turn out when ol’ Clive made his stand a couple years ago. He had plenty attention.”
“He did, but did you notice how they treated him? They acted like he was just an old kook like your crazy uncle Bubba. He’s out there with a bunch of armed men refusing to recognize federal authority, but they acted like he was … harmless.”
Bud nodded. “I see your point,” he said.
“I’m tired of bein’ treated like I’m harmless just ’cause I’m white. White men ain’t harmless. Did you hear about that biker gang shootout in Waco last May? Nine people dead, twice that many wounded, almost 180 arrests. That sound harmless to you?”
Bud shook his head. “I must have missed that,” he said.
“See, that’s my point. If 180 Mexican illegals had shot it out, you think you wouldn’t know about it? , it would have been the top news story of the year! The blacks, the Muslims, the Mexicans, they get all the attention they want even when they’re not doin’ nothin’, but guys who look like you and me, we get bupkes. What do we need, bikini girls? For criminy sake, we’re committing armed insurrection against the federal government! Ain’t that enough?”
Sam went back to stamping his feet. He found himself wondering idly about the symptoms of hypothermia. “A white man just can’t catch a break,” he muttered.
http://www.nationalmemo.com/a-white-..._frequency_six
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