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    are we still doing the SF sochan stuff?

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    are we still doing the SF sochan stuff?
    I'm just curbing my expectations, I'd rather trade Sochan than #14, but we know that won't happen.

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    Yoooo if we get both Okongwu and KD i would be in dreamland

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    giving up a lotto pick for an old injury prone kd who has maybe two high level yrs left is nonsense i'd be surprised if houston is even offering theirs

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    are we still doing the SF sochan stuff?
    Wemby plays like a center on defense but like a wing on offense. Sochan is the opposite.

    If Sochan can't start alongside Fox/Castle/KD/Wemby then he can't start at all, and his greatest strength (guarding the opponent's best perimeter scorer) is mostly nullified.

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    giving up a lotto pick for an old injury prone kd who has maybe two high level yrs left is nonsense i'd be surprised if houston is even offering theirs
    giving up an end of lotto pick for a rental of an all-nba caliber player is a fine deal

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    If you can get KD for #14 you do it.

    Word is KD doesn’t want to go to Houston. He wants San Antonio. And that gives the Spurs more leverage.


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    Too much smoke for there not to be somewhat of a fire…definitely feels like these conversations are happening. Based on Pop’s affinity for KD and wanting a veteran presence for Wemby and the youngsters it just makes sense. Unless they’re insanely high on someone at 14 I feel like this deal is getting done.

    Pretty exciting stuff. Wemby learning from KD could be incredible.

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    Pretty exciting stuff. Wemby learning from KD could be incredible.
    Can't wait for him to take the hardest road after we lose to 76 win OKC in 2032.

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    giving up an end of lotto pick for a rental of an all-nba caliber player is a fine deal
    all nba diva sure but he's not all nba caliber anymore.. spurs wouldnt be that dumb to trade away a likely future long term starter pick for that anti spur.. and if he really has narrowed it down to spurs then you should be able to get him for alot less.

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    Too much smoke for there not to be somewhat of a fire…definitely feels like these conversations are happening. Based on Pop’s affinity for KD and wanting a veteran presence for Wemby and the youngsters it just makes sense. Unless they’re insanely high on someone at 14 I feel like this deal is getting done.

    Pretty exciting stuff. Wemby learning from KD could be incredible.
    Replace HB with KJ and I'll sign off on this.

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    Too much smoke for there not to be somewhat of a fire…definitely feels like these conversations are happening. Based on Pop’s affinity for KD and wanting a veteran presence for Wemby and the youngsters it just makes sense. Unless they’re insanely high on someone at 14 I feel like this deal is getting done.

    Pretty exciting stuff. Wemby learning from KD could be incredible.
    Replace HB with KJ and I'll sign off on this.

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    Replace HB with KJ and I'll sign off on this.
    Send HB, and KJ can be used in a future trade.

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    all nba diva sure but he's not all nba caliber anymore.. spurs wouldnt be that dumb to trade away a likely future long term starter pick for that anti spur.. and if he really has narrowed it down to spurs then you should be able to get him for alot less.
    hes absolutely all-nba caliber. he missed the games played req by 3 so he couldt get votes this year. but he was 6th in the league in scoring at 26.6 ppg on 53/43/84 splits. he's still an elite, elite scorer. almost certainly would have made 3rd team over Harden

    when he was eligible the year prior he cracked the second team with near identical production
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    nobody is discussing the 190 IQ, 7D chess strat for the durant trade

    is it short sighted to make our team better right now at the expense of the future? well, if we become significantly better this coming season, then we exercise our swap with ATL and send them as ty a pick as possible, making it harder for them to improve their team. this helps the outlook of the 2027 hawks pick

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    all nba diva sure but he's not all nba caliber anymore.. spurs wouldnt be that dumb to trade away a likely future long term starter pick for that anti spur.. and if he really has narrowed it down to spurs then you should be able to get him for alot less.
    One end of lottery pick is a pretty low price for KD.

    I’ve never been the biggest KD fan, and I’ve been critical of some of his sideline shenanigans, both in PHO, and this year slide ASG, but if you can flip a late lottery pick for a HOF player putting up 26/6/4 on 53/43/84 shooting splits, you do it.

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    Too much smoke for there not to be somewhat of a fire…definitely feels like these conversations are happening. Based on Pop’s affinity for KD and wanting a veteran presence for Wemby and the youngsters it just makes sense. Unless they’re insanely high on someone at 14 I feel like this deal is getting done.

    Pretty exciting stuff. Wemby learning from KD could be incredible.
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    nobody is discussing the 190 IQ, 7D chess strat for the durant trade

    is it short sighted to make our team better right now at the expense of the future? well, if we become significantly better this coming season, then we exercise our swap with ATL and send them as ty a pick as possible, making it harder for them to improve their team. this helps the outlook of the 2027 hawks pick
    And, Wemby & co need actual playoff experience. Not play-in. Playoff. You saw what happened to a Rockets team that was ranked second in the west during their first play off run this year. Same thing happened to OKC last year. Wemby's peers (Amen, Chet, Ant, etc...) are getting playoff reps while Wemby isn't. Being in meaningful games and having an influence like KD there to sherpa you through the growing pains will pay dividends down the line. This isn't a situation like TD coming to an already-playoff tested team, more like the opposite.

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    Too much smoke for there not to be somewhat of a fire…definitely feels like these conversations are happening. Based on Pop’s affinity for KD and wanting a veteran presence for Wemby and the youngsters it just makes sense. Unless they’re insanely high on someone at 14 I feel like this deal is getting done.

    Pretty exciting stuff. Wemby learning from KD could be incredible.
    I would rather keep Barnes and send Johnson.

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    And, Wemby & co need actual playoff experience. Not play-in. Playoff. You saw what happened to a Rockets team that was ranked second in the west during their first play off run this year. Same thing happened to OKC last year. Wemby's peers (Amen, Chet, Ant, etc...) are getting playoff reps while Wemby isn't. Being in meaningful games and having an influence like KD there to sherpa you through the growing pains will pay dividends down the line. This isn't a situation like TD coming to an already-playoff tested team, more like the opposite.
    Agreed and unlike some people, I don't think we need to make all the trades this summer.
    KD pretty much guarantees we'll make the playoffs, but no way we'd be a legit contender right away, regardless of other moves.
    Noone has any experience, coach included.

    Get KD, draft Harper, sign a solid bench wing if the money is right and find Wemby's backup. That should be enough, then we go from there.
    If we go on a roll and are a top4 seed at the deadline, we can easily make another move, but there's no need to waste assets too early.

    I'd just feel bad for Barnes if he gets moved for KD yet again, hopefully Keldon would be the other player going out.

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    Replace HB with KJ and I'll sign off on this.
    I would also prefer to send KJ instead of HB (personally I want HB on our team), but my guess is that HB's expiring is positive value that makes this trade work for PHX.

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    it's all about aligning timelines. We got the

    Wemby/Castle/Harper timeline: Next 10-15 years

    Fox timeline: next 5 years

    KD timeline: next 3 years

    By the time KD expires, his salary comes off the books and we can extend Castle, while still having enough cap space to reload. This move is a no brainer. Doesn't matter who's there at #14.

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    I would rather keep Barnes and send Johnson.
    My guess is that Phoenix, hemorrhaging money and in the second apron, would prefer Barnes contract so that it rolls off in 2026.

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    So how close does the salary cap arithmetic have to be for a deal to send Durant to SA?

    Durant's salary for the upcoming season is $54.7M, and meanwhile Vassell = 27.0; Barnes = 19.0, KJ = 17.5, Sochan = 7.1, Branham = 5.0, and Wesley = 4.7

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