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    As for actual generational prospects:

    Wilt - 1959
    Kareem - 1969
    Ralph Sampson - 1983
    Shaq - 1992
    LeBron - 2003
    Wemby - 2023

    That's it! Maybe Zion but I never thought a 6'5" power forward could be considered a generational talent

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    As for actual generational prospects:

    Wilt - 1959
    Kareem - 1969
    Ralph Sampson - 1983
    Shaq - 1992
    LeBron - 2003
    Wemby - 2023

    That's it! Maybe Zion but I never thought a 6'5" power forward could be considered a generational talent
    Mostly agree with your ideology, but when even BSPN has Duncan, I think it's safe to say he belongs.

    Comparing the best draft prospects in (recent) history - ESPN

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    As for actual generational prospects:

    Wilt - 1959
    Kareem - 1969
    Ralph Sampson - 1983
    Shaq - 1992
    LeBron - 2003
    Wemby - 2023

    That's it! Maybe Zion but I never thought a 6'5" power forward could be considered a generational talent
    No David Thompson? I honestly have no recollection, just know that he's highly regarded by lots.

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    No David Thompson? I honestly have no recollection, just know that he's highly regarded by lots.
    Bill Walton would be ahead of David Thompson as a generational talent in that same time.

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    Any thoughts on the trade rumor of Brooklyn getting our 2 for their 8, 19, and 26? I think it is just another hot take trade idea, simply cause of Sean Mark's. I feel it holds no water whatsoever.

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    We‘re not trading #2

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    Bill Walton would be ahead of David Thompson as a generational talent in that same time.
    There was that one time, in band camp (Double-OT win for NC State in 1974 Final Four). I had to look that up. For a minute, I thought they also ended UCLA's 88 game winning streak too, but that would be Notre Dame.

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    Any thoughts on the trade rumor of Brooklyn getting our 2 for their 8, 19, and 26? I think it is just another hot take trade idea, simply cause of Sean Mark's. I feel it holds no water whatsoever.
    There's less than zero percent chance of that. there's a big gap between 2 and 3 value wise, no way the Spurs are trading that for at best an 8th pick.

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    Any thoughts on the trade rumor of Brooklyn getting our 2 for their 8, 19, and 26? I think it is just another hot take trade idea, simply cause of Sean Mark's. I feel it holds no water whatsoever.
    Is there a source for this rumor?

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    Any thoughts on the trade rumor of Brooklyn getting our 2 for their 8, 19, and 26? I think it is just another hot take trade idea, simply cause of Sean Mark's. I feel it holds no water whatsoever.
    The very idea of the Spurs ending up in a situation with 4 FRP is what makes this unrealistic and easy to dismiss out of hand

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    Not that Don Harris is Shams or anything, but figured I’d post nevertheless.
    As well they should. The Spurs aren’t rash or capricious. They’ll make the high percentage move. SA just got a jump on the summer by grabbing Fox early.

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    Generational getting used every 3 years isn't really meeting the definition of the word.
    People should just wash that word out they mouth until they really think about it.

    In societal terms, a generation is usually every 20-25 years.
    If we're generous, we can rename it in basketball terms to say every ten years.
    I know we're talking about generational PROSPECTS, but when it comes to actual players in NBA history the generational list is very short.
    I agree with you in theory, but in basketball terms, the average nba player career length is only 4.8 years... so there is an argument that "generational" could mean every 5 years.

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    As for actual generational prospects:

    Wilt - 1959
    Kareem - 1969
    Ralph Sampson - 1983
    Shaq - 1992
    LeBron - 2003
    Wemby - 2023

    That's it! Maybe Zion but I never thought a 6'5" power forward could be considered a generational talent
    You have Sampson but no Duncan and Robinson?

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    I was sure one of you gratuitous contrarians would be calling for VJ in here, but seems like everyone’s fallen in line. Good here

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    back in the 00s I absolutely hated the Lakers, Mavs and Suns.
    There was no reason to hate the Suns. They were the Spurs favorite Whipping Boy

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    I might even have more pent up hatred for the Jazz leftover from the 90s and Malone's ass elbows than I do for Dallas.

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    I might even have more pent up hatred for the Jazz leftover from the 90s and Malone's ass elbows than I do for Dallas.
    During the nineties my cousin and I used to play find the black man in the Utah crowds

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    There was no reason to hate the Suns. They were the Spurs favorite Whipping Boy
    the fanbase if they count was loathsome and I know I said 00s but that little doozy of a sweep from Dragic was hard to watch even if we weren't going anywhere anyway that year. The 07 series was a rollercoaster too. But yeah in hindsight they never really threatened yet I still hated them lol

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    I might even have more pent up hatred for the Jazz leftover from the 90s and Malone's ass elbows than I do for Dallas.
    Thank God finally someone mentioned jazz. For me it’s lakers and jazz, I’m of sure who I hate more but probably jazz. I don’t really care too much about rockets, mavs, blazers. Kings, heat, pistons, grizzlies or anymore else.

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    To me it's the Rockets because of 1995.

    2006 we gifted them their trip to the finals by Manu having the biggest brain fart of his career. 2009 I honestly barely even remember to be honest.
    Ive put 09-11 out of my mind tbh

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    Getting nostalgic over rivalries and what I coincidence I just saw the saddest thing ever on my Reddit feed.

    While we over here like to remember about the Memorial Day Miracle, any of our 5 les, or Manu's block on Harden, etc...

    Over on the Kings subreddit they are waxing nostalgic about their 2002 WCF Game 5 win against the Lakers (23 years ago today)... a series they ing lost

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    The playoffs proved you need big PG who can create his own shot and distribute. I have said all along Harper is the next coming of SGA, Cade, Harden or Halliburton. All 6'5 and up creating big PG.

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    To me, in a trade, Quality >>> Quan y.

    Trading Harper for 3 or 4 lower level players/picks would likely be a bad deal for Spurs. In a 1 for 1 trade, there are maybe something like 20 players I would trade Harper for.

    So, unless a great and relatively young player becomes available at a good price, Spurs should keep Harper.

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    Mostly agree with your ideology, but when even BSPN has Duncan, I think it's safe to say he belongs.

    Comparing the best draft prospects in (recent) history - ESPN
    I think the reason nowadays Duncan isn't pegged 'generational' is because his player archetype was prevalent at the time (back-to-the-basket, fundamentally-sound big)..But if you read the press clippings pre-1997 draft he was definitely considered the next big, sure-thing. "Teams are tanking for him" was a well do ented chatter during that season. But I agree with the poster above, that the term 'generational' gets thrown around too liberally these days. Look no further than the Flagg case whose (over)hype reeks of typical "America next great white hope" discourse. Maybe I'm wrong because i'm not well versed in college hoops, but from what've watched I saw a Tatum-like well-rounded package, but nothing gets an (A+) in his game (at least so far). I don't think Flagg will be nearly as impactful as Doncic was for Dallas in his first six seasons (the latter was a generational offensive wizard/engine from the get go)..
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    The playoffs proved you need big PG who can create his own shot and distribute. I have said all along Harper is the next coming of SGA, Cade, Harden or Halliburton. All 6'5 and up creating big PG.
    I certainly hope he can hit the level of any of those guys. Harper isn't immune to being a bust (nobody is, even Flagg) but he certainly projects to be a very good player even if he doesn't hit his ceiling. If he does hit that ceiling, though? We can be OKC Thunder 2.0. Harper being cost controlled for 4 seasons is also incredibly valuable from a team building perspective which is why I would never move him/the pick for an overpaid (relative to a rookie deal) star in the Markkanen/JBrown/Durant mold.

    Would I consider moving Harper for a true superstar in the vein of Giannis? Technically yes, but the price beyond just the #2 would be so prohibitive (leaves us gutted outside of Wemby/Fox) that it essentially becomes a pointless discussion.

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