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Whether it helps this team or not, it's not in the realm of "reasonable" as Pop has already made it known no major trades will occur...only ones involving "peripheral" players, if at all.
Impossible to work as a formalized agreement because it's two different leagues with no bargaining agreement between them. That means Oberto would have to opt out of his contract and agree to leave the NBA and go back overseas. It would have to be an "under the table" kind of arrangement...not likely.
Whether it helps this team or not, it's not in the realm of "reasonable" as Pop has already made it known no major trades will occur...only ones involving "peripheral" players, if at all.
Or,the spurs could ¨buy out¨ Oberto´s contract for cheaper and get scola´s buy out for cheaper as well,if both organizations come to a mutual agreement
would that work now?
Again, it would have to be a "handshake" deal. Once the Spurs "bought out" Oberto's contract or convinced him to opt out of his final year (his prerogative), he would be free to choose retirement or whatever team in the Euroleague he chooses.
Bottom Line: No formal agreement or "trade" could be made, though that doesn't mean the two players couldn't swap places independently.
but it can be, by closed doors agreement,kind of thing.
Any mention of getting Salim Stoudamire from the Hawks? He's young, got a great smooth mid-range game, relatively atheletic, long SF/SG type, and is not playing at all. I am not sure how the salaries work, but Beno could be swapped for him, and the Hawks desperately needs a PG.
If by 'long' you mean 6'1".
I thought the guy is a good 6'6", 6'7", turns out he's listed "only" at 6'5", but that is still a decent sized SG. He may be giving up two inches to most SF though.
Sure...I think most of the details would have to be worked out on Oberto, since he is still under contract until after next year and could theoretically choose any team. I think Tau would have to have some assurance that he'd join the team before lowering the buyout on Scola even further. Honestly, I think the buyout of Scola's contract occurs whether or not Fabbs goes back overseas.
where are you getting your info?
He's listed at 6'1 and that's generous. He's a shooting guard in a PGs body....and his shot has been streaky, which is never good when that's your ONE dimension.
Dijon Thompson, who used to play for the Hawks is a long and lean SG/SF type.
What 'Salim Stoudamire' are you talking about? The one the league knows is a chucker in a point guard body, who has no point guard skills.
My mistake, misread his info on the page.
but has Pop ever announced an upcomming trade? and it is two weeks back, since he made the "peripheral" statement, it was at the beginning of the rodeo trip. we are 1-4 since then, but even more scary, the team looks worse with every game, just different to the trips of the past.
(maybe Pop was just speculating, that the trip will bring the Spurs back on track, as usual)
so, he might think a bit different today.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all about the Spurs making a trade that will bring in an immediate contributor. I would love to see Maggette in a Spurs uni and wouldn't mind a bit if anyone outside TMT (sorry TxAllstar, it's just to good NOT to use) is traded to get him (including Barry). I also understand that situations change and the lack of apparent "trade talk" could just be the calm before the storm.
I'm just saying I haven't seen anything of late to indicate the Spurs FO is in a frenzy to get something done.
This trade is legal:
Barry, Elson, White for Foyle, Pietrus
I think the Spurs biggest problem has been defense; Foyle will give them a legit shotblocker although offensively he's pretty much a stiff. Pietrus has low basketball IQ; but he's very athletic and a very capable defender. He's capable of shutting down Josh Howard or any SF. Plus he can slash from close by and hit the 3. The Spurs can let him walk if they don't like him anyway.
The Warriors might take this, since Foyle isn't in Nellie's rotation and they might let Pietrus walk away anyway since they need to resign Biedrins and Ellis. Nellie would find a way to use White and Elson in his freelancing system. Barry adds a much needed shooter.
The only downside I see is Foyle's contract, but if the Spurs are going to have a defensive philosophy, this may be a better fit for him.
About a month ago I would've said you were nuts...Pietrus looks like he's finally turned the corner and is ready to be a legit all-around player for this team. Then the trade happened.
It hasn't effected Pietrus' play or minutes, but they added two more SF types and with all the money they've got tied up, I think there's a legit chance he gets an offer in FA GS will find tough to match.
Still it's a longshot, and Foyle's contract is possibly the worst in the NBA.....wait, I forgot about Darius Miles.
It's probable that GS will be looking at other trades possibilities before the deadline.
I don't know which one of their swingmen they would let go but if SA could get Pietrus (which would be a dream with their current problems) and if it means getting a bad contract/player in the trade to make it work, well no hesitations at all.
but I really don't know if this is really possible. I
f they think they couldn't match an offer next offseason, they might want to make trade to at least get something in return.
How about a trade for Melvin Ely....
Read the first postHow about a trade for Melvin Ely....
Gotta give the girl her props....Read the first post
To you Kori...
Remaining Needs:
Backup PG
Long 3/Small Ball 4
Remaining assets:
Brent Barry
Jackie Butler
Fabricio Oberto
Matt Bonner
Francisco Elson
Beno Udrih
Who goes where for what? Or are the Spurs done?
If they manage to shore up those 2 needs, I'll be extremely impressed.
right now back up PG is for more important IMO.
Agreed.
Get a back up point, then things can start to get cheery around here again.
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