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    There are always gonna be some losses among the successes - on a whole, he has been successful.
    Trump talks about Carrier moving jobs to Mexico repeatedly, months upon months on the trail. That was 1400 jobs. This morning another of his failed businesses cost twice that.

    You're a hypocritical syncophant. Just admit you are R-only and quit trying to hide your extreme partisanship behind bull arguments that make no sense.

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    Highlight a Trump success for me.
    His hotel here in Miami (Doral) is a success. I've gone to several weddings there (and a rally) - it's a beautiful place. Doral Golf Tournament was there for decades (leaving next year). My ophthalmologist professor friend goes to Mar-a-Lago for a lot of University of Miami/Bascom Palmer Eye Ins ute events.

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    Technically she did not set up the server. Bill had it set up and she used it.
    technically she paid someone to do it
    so if I paid someone to shot your mom I would not be responsible?

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    "on a whole, he has been successful business-wise"

    You Lie.

    Starting with the gift of capital from this father, Trash's "successful business-wise" has :

    underperformed the stock market

    AND

    underperformed the real estate market.

    ... for over 40 years.

    iow, Trash is business failure.


    depends on the stocks he choice and he also employed people and gave them money to live on

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    Trump Fired Illinois Native From 'The Apprentice' for 'Locker Room' Talk

    The clip shows Trump canning Illinois native and professional wrestler Maria Kanellis-Bennett from his NBC business game show

    The clip shows Trump canning Illinois native and professional wrestler Maria Kanellis-Bennett from his NBC business game show. Kanellis-Bennett can be seen accusing celebrity chef Curtis Stone of using her dressing room and leaving a “stench in the room.”


    Trump goes on to ask Kanellis-Bennett if she regrets making the comments before calling them “gross," “disgusting” and “below the belt."

    “This is my boardroom,” Trump said. “It’s not a locker room. Maria you’re fired.”

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...sm_fb_lastword

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    technically she paid someone to do it
    so if I paid someone to shot your mom I would not be responsible?
    No. The server already existed and was set up by her husband well before she began using it.

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    someone paid someone to put her email on it !!!!!!
    she as sure as could not do it herself!

    that is also why the people who did it pleaded the 5th in congress

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    Minus 5 million thanks to Bush & rmt enduced recession


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    Trump Fired Illinois Native From 'The Apprentice' for 'Locker Room' Talk

    The clip shows Trump canning Illinois native and professional wrestler Maria Kanellis-Bennett from his NBC business game show

    The clip shows Trump canning Illinois native and professional wrestler Maria Kanellis-Bennett from his NBC business game show. Kanellis-Bennett can be seen accusing celebrity chef Curtis Stone of using her dressing room and leaving a “stench in the room.”


    Trump goes on to ask Kanellis-Bennett if she regrets making the comments before calling them “gross," “disgusting” and “below the belt."

    “This is my boardroom,” Trump said. “It’s not a locker room. Maria you’re fired.”

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward...sm_fb_lastword

    was in rule book of the company or he would have got sued and had to pay her

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    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/vid...hillarys-side/
    Clintons medical man returns to her side

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    thank god ducks, you were gone for 9 minutes.

    i got worried.

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    thank god ducks, you were gone for 9 minutes.

    i got worried.

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    Arms dealer says administration made him scapegoat on Libya operation to 'protect' Clinton
    EXCLUSIVE: American arms dealer Marc Turi, in his first television interview since criminal charges against him were dropped, told Fox News that the Obama administration -- with the cooperation of Hillary Clinton’s State Department -- tried and failed to make him the scapegoat for a 2011 covert weapons program to arm Libyan rebels that spun out of control.

    “I would say, 100 percent, I was victimized…to somehow discredit me, to throw me under the bus, to do whatever it took to protect their next presidential candidate,” he told Fox News chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge.

    The 48-year-old Arizona resident has been at the epicenter of a failed federal investigation led by the Justice Department spanning five years and costing the government an estimated $10 million or more, Turi says.

    Turi says the Justice Department abruptly dropped the case to avoid public disclosure of the weapons program, that was designed to force the ouster of Libyan dictator Muammar Qaddafi during the 2011 Arab Spring.

    "Those transcripts from current as well as former CIA officers were classified," Turi said of the evidence. "If any of these relationships [had] been revealed it would have opened up a can of worms. There wouldn't have been any good answer for the U.S. government especially in this election year." The Justice Department faced a deadline last week to produce records to the defense.

    Turi says he was specifically “targeted by the Obama administration “and “lost everything--my family, my friends, my business, my reputation.”
    As Fox News has reported extensively, in 2011, the Obama administration with support from some Republican and Democratic lawmakers explored options to arm the so-called “Libyan rebels” during the chaotic Arab Spring but United Nations sanctions prohibited direct sales.

    Turi's plan was to have the U.S. government supply conventional weapons to the Gulf nations Qatar and UAE, which would then in turn supply them to Libya. But Turi says he never sold any weapons, and he was cut out of the plan. Working with CIA, Turi said Clinton's State Department had the lead and used its own people, with weapons flowing to Libya and Syria.

    "Some (weapons) may have went out under control that we had with our personnel over there and the others went to these militia. That's how they lost control over it," Turi said. "I can assure you that these operations did take place and those weapons did go in different directions."

    Asked by Fox News who got the weapons -- Al Qaeda, Ansar al-Sharia, or ISIS -- Turi said: "All of them, all of them, all of them."

    Turi exchanged emails in 2011 with then U.S. envoy to the Libyan opposition Chris Stevens. A day after the exchange about Turi's State Department application to sell weapons, Clinton wrote on April 8, 2011 to aide Jake Sullivan, "fyi. the idea of using private security experts to arm the opposition should be considered."

    Asked if the email exchanges are connected or a coincidence, Turi said, "When you look at this timeline, none of it was a coincidence. It was all strategically managed and it had to come from her own internal circle."

    Turi also told Fox News that he believes emails sent about the weapons programs were deleted by Hillary Clinton and her team because that “it would have gone to an organization within the Bureau of Political Millitary affairs within the State Department known as PM/RSAT (Office of Regional Security and Arms Transfers.) That’s where you would find Jake Sullivan, Andrew Shapiro and a number of political operatives that would have been intimately involved with this foreign policy."

    The four felony counts -- which included two of arms dealing in violation of the Arms Export Control Act and two of lying on his State Department weapons application -- were dismissed last week against Turi “with prejudice,” meaning the government cannot come after him again on this matter.

    The Justice Department decision, weeks before the election, coupled with the now public emails, cast a new light on Clinton's 2013 Benghazi testimony where she was asked about the movement of weapons by Sen. Rand Paul.

    Paul: Were any of these weapons be transferred to other countries. Any countries. Turkey included?

    Clinton: Well, senator you'll have to direct that question to the agency that ran the annex and I will see what information is available.

    Paul: You're saying you don't know?

    Clinton: I don't know.

    Turi first told his story to Fox News senior executive producer Pamela Browne in 2014, and since, Turi says he's lost everything to fight the Justice Department, which had no further comment beyond the publicly available court records.

    "With all the resources that they were throwing at me, I knew there would have to be some type of explanation of the operation that was going terribly wrong in Libya," Turi said. "It is completely un-American...I was a contractor for the Central Intelligence Agency."

    Turi said he is grateful the case is over. "It really is ungodly, and unjust and unconscionable, that the entire force of the United States government came after me for a simple application. I was working for the U.S. government."

    Turi added, "I never shipped anything. I never even received the contract. So all I received was an approval for $534 million to support our interests overseas. And it would have been the United States government that facilitated that operation from Qatar and UAE by way of allowing those countries to land their planes and land their ships in Libya."

    Close friend and Turi adviser Robert Stryk described Turi this way to Fox News in a statement:

    “Marc Turi is a true patriot who served his country in the fight against Islamofascist terrorists in the Middle East. His fraudulent prosecution by Hillary Clinton’s associates in the Justice Department is deplorable as is the fate of the American heroes murdered in Benghazi. Our most loyal citizens deserve better."

    And Turi hinted there is more to emerge on the 2012 Benghazi attacks which killed four Americans including Stevens.

    "Now there’s a flip side to this. Some of the operations that I was involved in, in another country for the agency has a linkage and there’s a backstory to the actual buy-back program of the surface to air missiles that were shipped and mysteriously disappeared out of Benghazi," Turi said. "So we can save that for another time, but the reality is a lot of this could have exposed a number of covert operations that I don’t think the American public would really want to know at this point in time.”

    Fox News asked the State Department about Turi’s allegations, and whether no weapons reached extremists groups on Clinton’s watch. A spokesperson said they would check.

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    You're kidding right? The Bush white house had a private email domain called gwb43.com, set up and run out of RNC offices. And they "lost" 22 million emails. Fox News and Breitbart may not have reported on it though ...

    http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/g...ls-497373.html
    http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonwe...e-house-emails

    Also for the benefit of rmt ... I have no problem in people blaming Hillary - she deserves it. As long as you acknowledge the behavior of past administrations.
    "that's different"

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    "As long as you acknowledge the behavior of past administrations"

    rightwingnuts, Repugs apply the rules only to Dems, while never admitting that the Repugs do exactly the same, or worse.



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    Facing the Abuser's Rage

    As I mentioned in my earlier post, I was in meetings in Washington for most of the day. So I checked my iPhone here and there and got a few minutes poking around on my laptop. But I saw most of the day only at a distance - enough to see that the full conflagration had finally broken out but not enough to see the details.

    It's hard to know quite what to say because in some ways this is the most obvious thing in the world. We've known all along that something like this could happen, indeed that it was likely to happen. As long as Trump seemed likely to win or to have a plausible chance to win, most everyone in the GOP would be happy and go along. The fact that they were happy is profoundly troubling. But that's another story. As long as Trump seemed likely to lose without making too much of a mess that was something the party machinery could tolerate. But when things started to go badly things were likely to go bad fast - even more if something extremely toxic was revealed about Trump.

    To say that Trump can't lose gracefully or graciously in the grandest of understatements. He's driven by a need to dominate - not to be the best but to be recognized as the best, the richest, the smartest, the strongest. This also means needing to win always. All of this means he gets angry quickly and lashes out in the face of sleights.

    Being shamed by nearly every Republican in the country is a profound ego injury. Looking at the prospect of a shattering electoral defeat is another. That has to be channeled somewhere and it looks like it's going to be channeled against the GOP. Trump needs someone to blame. He's already blamed news networks, blacks, debate moderators, the Khans, Alicia Machado, Judge Curiel. But Paul Ryan and the GOP now seem like the target of his most intense rage.

    Will that rage settle as the intensity of the final weeks builds and the prospect of defeat gets closer? I would think not.

    Remember, Trump is a bully. Bullies seek out people they can hurt. Trump has done everything he possibly can to hurt Hillary Clinton. But he doesn't seem to be able to do so. The chance to do the one thing that would truly hurt her - defeating her in the general election - looks to be slipping beyond his grasp. That is almost certainly the root of his increasingly open threats to jail and punish her. But there is someone else he can hurt profoundly, even as he falls behind in the general election: the Republican party. All the better since they are his best argument to justify his defeat as a betrayal rather than a personal failure.

    Think of your own experience. Bullies never pick out the strongest person to abuse. That defies the definition of a bully. Bullies seek out the weak. At the moment, the ins utional GOP and its key leaders are exceptional weak and vulnerable, even helpless. The best example: even as he continues to attack them, threaten a cataclysmic election outcome, they cannot even withdraw their endorsements. Like an abuser who takes out his personal failures and frustrations and rages on his wife and his children, Paul Ryan and the GOP are now alone in the house with Donald Trump. He is angry and the prospect of defeat will no doubt make him angrier. In Trump's world of displacement, abuse and vengeance turning against the GOP is the most logical thing in the world.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...e-abusers-rage


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    Repugs pandered to extremists who voted for Trash. iow, Repugs created Trash.

    Republican Civil War Is The 8-Year Price Of Extremist Embrace

    Embracing extremism delivered what the base wants and GOP attempts to distance themselves from their creation is inciting a rebellion against party defectors.

    It is an oddity in American elections to see one of the two major political parties engaged in what is now a very public civil war.

    This is particularly true for Republicans who, over the past eight years, have had to rush to defend some clearly extremist comments by their own members and still support them despite they made similar comments to the party’s standard bearer, Donald J. Trump.

    What is exceptionally gleeful for those tasked with observing, analyzing, and commenting on politics is that this civil war may well serve to purge the once-proud GOP of its extremist elements.

    Mr. Ryan didn’t say he was abandoning the Party; just that he was dedicating himself to defending the party’s majority in Congress.

    It is also noteworthy, and frankly hypocritical, that Ryan is not withdrawing his endorsement of Mr. Trump,

    just his defense and campaign support; something he had to reiterate 45-minutes later after Republicans went ballistic over what they perceived as party treason.

    It isn’t clear what Paul Ryan thought was going to happen when he withdrew his support for Trump, especially when the primary reason a perverted malcontent like Trump is the party nominee is Republican extremism.

    Republicans have spent the past eight years cultivating Trump’s current base of support and that pandering to, and embrace of extremists is now paying dividends Republicans don’t want or need.

    Ryan should have expected outrage from his fellow Republicans in Congress after he was heckled and booed by his Republican base when Trump failed to appear at a campaign rally in Ryan’s congressional district just three days ago.
    It is certain that no-one, including House Speaker Paul Ryan, was surprised that Trump lashed out at his announcement that his focus would be on congressional races and not on the party standard bearer. Trump angrily tweeted that,

    The pushback from Ryan’s fellow Republicans in the House was more direct and inflammatory. California congressman and Trump supporter Dana Rohrabacher attacked Ryan and other Republicans abandoning Trump as “cowards,”

    Trent Franks (AZ), used graphic language to describe abortions and said

    that allowing Mrs. Clinton into the White House would end with fetuses being destroyed limb from limb.

    they are
    ardent supporters of Trump’s idea of punishing women who have made the decision to terminate a pregnancy.

    The dilemma for all Republicans is that if they completely disavow all fealty to Donald Trump, the maniac whose supporters make up the largest share of the Republican base, they risk alienatingthose voters and losing their jobs.

    Republicans have spent the past eight years either pandering to extremist conservatives or embracing policy positions they know are contrary to what America is about.

    And,
    it all began as an official Republican protest and rejection of the people’s choice of Barack Obama as President.

    They have propped up bigots to secure the electoral support of the religious right and white supremacists, and

    became bonafide misogynists to sate the anti-choice and anti-equal rights for women crowd ensconced in the evangelical movement.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/...iticus+USA+%29

    Repugs are so ed, and they ed themselves.

    However, Trash will be destroyed, and the Repug dog will carry on as before, wagged by the VRWC-financed extremist tail.



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    https://www.facebook.com/thelastword...2600814128097/

    What's not to laugh at with the Repugs?

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    That media bias

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    That media bias

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    Midnight Cowboy vs Travis Bickle

    https://www.facebook.com/topic/Rober...04889039158429

    I get the impression Voight didn't have to "play" naive and stupid in Midnight Cowboy.

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    Why? The number 1 concern for most Americans is the economy/jobs - I think a businessman is more suited for that than the political science, history, law or whatever these politicians majored in. I agree they certainly aren't in this for public service - more like self-service.
    Totally disagree.

    Governments are not supposed to be for profit ins utions. I guess you are fine with monopolies. Part of business is removing compe ion. It's not about being better for the consumer. It's about being better than the compe ion.

    And I am not fine with private businesses running military campaigns and deciding court cases. This is not business. Mixing the two is fatal.
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    Totally disagree.

    Governments are not supposed to be for profit ins utions. I guess you are fine with monopolies. Part of business is removing compe ion. It's not about being better for the consumer. It's about being better than the compe ion.

    And I am not fine with private businesses running military campaigns and deciding court cases. This is not business. Mixing the two is fatal.
    In rmt's defense, most conservatives have been drilled in their heads that a country's economy is like a household economy..... skipping right past that whole part where countries create their own currencies, that currency value is dependent on other currencies' value, and the entire dynamics that generates, including inflation, deflation, etc, which has nothing in common with a household economy or a business.

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