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  1. #776
    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Veteran noob cake's Avatar
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    Kome is a closet ; he had to rape that white hoe in order to establish his 'heterosexuality' orientation in the league.

  3. #778
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    I swear Gasol gives the manliest hug in the league. Something's wrong with that guy.

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    hi my name is bao, im a big vietnamese lakers fans. i ask y people hating on kobe so much?
    better being hated than ignored

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    Kobe is Matt Barnes'

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    Kobe Bryant


    • 22.1 field goal attempts per game -- 45.9%
    • 4.1 three point attempts -- 31.4% -- lowest 3FG% in seven years
    • 7.3 free throw attempts per game -- 82.3% -- second lowest number of FTAs in the last eight years. Lowest last season.
    • eFG% -- 48.8% -- lowest in five seasons
    • True shooting percentage -- 54.6% -- lowest in seven years. It was 56-58% for the previous four years.
    • Assist rate - 22.7% -- lowest since.... 1999/2000.
    • Rebounding rate - 7.5% --- lowest since... 1998/1999.
    • Shot-blocking rate - 9.7% --- career low.
    • FG% for shots at the rim - 58.1%. Career low, in the last 3 years: 66%, 63%, 64%
    • And yet his usage rate is increasing for the 3rd consecutive season - it's like the better his teammates are, the more Kobe tries to act as the "saviour" and "the man".

    Kobe's game has dropped off this season big, big time and it's a trend that started awhile ago - and the quality of his teammates, especially defensively+rebounding wise is hiding it.

  7. #782
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    Kobe Bryant


    • 22.1 field goal attempts per game -- 45.9%
    • 4.1 three point attempts -- 31.4% -- lowest 3FG% in seven years
    • 7.3 free throw attempts per game -- 82.3% -- second lowest number of FTAs in the last eight years. Lowest last season.
    • eFG% -- 48.8% -- lowest in five seasons
    • True shooting percentage -- 54.6% -- lowest in seven years. It was 56-58% for the previous four years.
    • Assist rate - 22.7% -- lowest since.... 1999/2000.
    • Rebounding rate - 7.5% --- lowest since... 1998/1999.
    • Shot-blocking rate - 9.7% --- career low.
    • FG% for shots at the rim - 58.1%. Career low, in the last 3 years: 66%, 63%, 64%
    • And yet his usage rate is increasing for the 3rd consecutive season - it's like the better his teammates are, the more Kobe tries to act as the "saviour" and "the man".
    Kobe's game has dropped off this season big, big time and it's a trend that started awhile ago - and the quality of his teammates, especially defensively+rebounding wise is hiding it.
    +1...truer words have never been spoken. (in this thread at least)

  8. #783
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    I'm glad Kobe reached his elbowing quota for the day.

  9. #784
    Fuck these finals picc84's Avatar
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    Kobe is declining. Thats no secret.

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    +1...truer words have never been spoken. (in this thread at least)
    i guess that has nothing doing with all his injuries huh?

    He's lost explosiveness, that's for sure. But when healthy, he's still at the top of his game.

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    i guess that has nothing doing with all his injuries huh?

    He's lost explosiveness, that's for sure. But when healthy, he's still at the top of his game.
    Sounds like Spurs fans and Manu. Welcome.

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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    Kobe has played 14 years. He also played the most minutes among active NBA players right now (including post season minutes). Its amazing his craft is still at this level. Most of his peers have seen a huge drop or are out of the league. Kobe's still leading the Lakers with solid numbers across the board and he's probably going to win his second Finals MVP. Thats truly remarkable if you put things in perspective.

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    Kobe is declining. Thats no secret.
    +1 He's still got mad game, but time catches up to all of them sooner or later.

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    Kobe has played 14 years. He also played the most minutes among active NBA players right now (including post season minutes). Its amazing his craft is still at this level. Most of his peers have seen a huge drop or are out of the league. Kobe's still leading the Lakers with solid numbers across the board and he's probably going to win his second Finals MVP. Thats truly remarkable if you put things in perspective.
    Sure. He's still a top-5 player in the league, although he's not nearly as good as LBJ. But that's not the point: the problem is that he plays like he's getting better and his teammates worse when exactly the opposite is happening.

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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    Sure. He's still a top-5 player in the league, although he's not nearly as good as LBJ. But that's not the point: the problem is that he plays like he's getting better and his teammates worse when exactly the opposite is happening.
    That is my gripe as well. Kobe has been horrible with his decision making since January. Kobe had a great start and was the unanimous MVP in November-December, maybe he feels he can continue his early season streak and regain his efficiency thus he kept forcing the issue.

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    Enjoy your gripe ...he was efficient clutch had assists ... no problem with anyone saying LBJ is better ...
    Kobe still the better closer ...has the rings.

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Kobe's game has dropped off this season big, big time and it's a trend that started awhile ago - and the quality of his teammates, especially defensively+rebounding wise is hiding it.
    Kobe was shooting a career high 50% before breaking his finger this year.

    This was Kobe's best year until he broke his finger and he was high in the MVP race prior to that.

    To not mention his broken finger at all in your "analysis" is ridiculous.

    Kobe only had 3 good fingers on his right hand the last 2 months.

    Has there ever been a player in basketball history that had a better shooting year after they broke their finger on their shooting hand and played through it?

    Injuries lower your stats...it's a fact of life. Failed "analysis"
    Last edited by Allanon; 03-10-2010 at 03:31 PM.

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    Do you guys really think Kobe will retain that efficiency? I mean come on now, sure that was impressive but Kobe is a career 45% FG shooter. I have no reason to believe he will magically start shooting at a 50% clip especially when he's 31 y/o

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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Long piece on Kobe in the March issue of Dime. It doesn't seem to be online; it's a good read if anyone wants to pick the issue up.

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    New numbers on Kobe Bryant in crunch time
    By Henry Abbott

    Through the years, there have been many different sets of data about clutch shooting. Any which way I have ever seen it sliced (last five minutes of close games to last ten seconds), as I have written on TrueHoop before, it has looked like Kobe Bryant has been a guy who shoots a ton in crunch time, and hits at a pretty good, but not elite, rate.

    I'm open to the idea that he could still be the best clutch player in the NBA. At that time of the game, there's value in being able to create scoring opportunities. Bryant may shoot those difficult fallaways that often miss, but he'd be a far worse player if he couldn't get a shot off at all. And that's the situation some lesser players would find themselves in.

    Quite honestly, I think the real way to crown a crunch time king would be with video. Somebody should make a TV special where they string together every crunch time touch of the handful of elite end-game players (Bryant, LeBron James, Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony etc.) If we want to tell the world that somebody is the most likely to succeed in a certain setting, let's take an honest and complete look at how they do in that setting. Show me the turnovers, the misses and all that. Let everyone watch all of that video -- not just the makes! -- and at the end of that I think we'll end up with a good sense of who's the best.

    A lot of sports fans think it's crazy talk to even consider candidates other than Bryant. And they're especially vocal right now, when Bryant seems to be hitting game-winners just about every night.

    So, how's it going?

    Very well.

    Peter D. Newmann of NBA Statistics and Information Research has tallied some numbers that take into account this season. Here are some of his findings:

    * This season, Bryant has made seven of the 12 shots, with a chance to win or tie the game, in the last ten seconds of regulation or overtime.

    * Bryant's the only player in the last decade who has made seven such shots in a season.

    * Bryant has made 26 of the 89 potential game tying or game-winning field goals he has shot over the last decade. That's 29.2%, which is slightly above League average.

    * His game-winners, against the Heat, Bucks, Kings, Celtics, Grizzlies, Heat and Raptors come in a season when no other player has hit more than three such shots. Derrick Rose has the second-most attempts, with eight.

    * The best field goal percentage, on potential game-tying or game-winning field goals in the last 10 seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime, belongs to Chris Paul. He has hit three of his four shots. Chris Bosh, Chris Duhon, Tim Duncan, Raymond Felton, Rudy Gay, David Lee, Rashard Lewis and O.J. Mayo are all two of three. This season, the League as a whole makes just 26.7% of its shots in that situation.

    * Over the last decade, by field goal percentage the best shooters in this setting have been Carmelo Anthony (13-28, .464), Pau Gasol (9-22, .409), Tony Parker (11-29, .379), Chris Paul (9-24, .375) and Shawn Marion (10-28, .357). Bryant over the same period is 26-89 (.292).

    * Bryant has attempted by far the most such shots of anyone over the last decade. His 89 is trailed by Vince Carter's 69, Paul Pierce's 57, Dwyane Wade's 51 and LeBron James' 50.

    * Bryant's 26 makes also lead the League, followed by Carter with 20, Ray Allen with 17 and Allen Iverson's 14. Carmelo Anthony, Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki and Paul Pierce have each made 13.

  21. #796
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    Suns coach just called Kobe the best closer in NBA history yesterday.

    "He's the best closer in the history of the game if you ask me," Gentry said. "Yeah, that is including Michael Jordan.

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    * Bryant has made 26 of the 89 potential game tying or game-winning field goals he has shot over the last decade. That's 29.2%, which is slightly above League average.
    Kobe is an above average closer, good for him..

    Men lie, women lie, numbers don't..

  23. #798
    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    I heard on the radio that Kobe Bryant has made the most game winning shots in 1 season...EVER. More than the other guys recognized as "clutch" (ie. Bird, Jerry West and Jordan).

    No wonder Philip said he'd give the ball to Kobe for the last second shot over any player he's ever coached.

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    kobe had 80 attempts. any player with that much attempts is bound to hit a decent percent. i think fisher is much more clutch than kobe. fisher would shoot less than 8 times and probably miss 5 of those but you give him that shot to win a game and he'll win it for you.

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    Veteran cobbler's Avatar
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    kobe had 80 attempts. any player with that much attempts is bound to hit a decent percent. i think fisher is much more clutch than kobe. fisher would shoot less than 8 times and probably miss 5 of those but you give him that shot to win a game and he'll win it for you.
    ChrisRichards and thinking, what an oxymoron.

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