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    Now we can subs ute the new velocity back into the Kinetic energy (momentum) equation:

    ke= 199*.5*m=ke=99m

    Oops.

    Here is the part that Gal will now have to contend with.

    The remaining structure can still only stop about 1.2m

    soooo

    At 99m, you now have 82 times enough kenetic energy to crush the underlying structure, if the mass holds constant.

    Let's be realistic and assume that some part of the mass DOES fall off to the side.

    , let's assume that 95% of the falling mass now falls off to the side.

    Factor that into the KE equation

    99(m*.05)

    Since math boy seems to be unable to do math, I will not bother asking him how much this equals and simply spell it out.

    4.97m=ke.

    That means that the mass that is left still has FIVE ING TIMES the force (dynamic)of the entire mass when that mass was held at zero velocity (static)

    Meaning:

    Even if 95% of the mass then falls away and is not available to crush the remaining building, you STILL have about 4 times enough energy to collapse the building.
    you have several errors.

    First of all, the top floors of the towers are less massive than the lower floors.

    Another problem; WTC 7 was not hit by an airplane, dumb .

    You need to re-do everything and then try again.

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    I'm starting to get the feeling I've been had. I really don't think Galileo believes this crap. I think he's just trolling and having a good time at our expense.


    Because no one can possibly be that dumb.


    TROLL! NO SOUP FOR YOU! Now, GTFO!

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    I'm starting to get the feeling I've been had. I really don't think Galileo believes this crap. I think he's just trolling and having a good time at our expense.


    Because no one can possibly be that dumb.


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    not a troll.

    a disinfo CIA mole shill plant

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    Galileo, would you mind sharing your full name, address, and Social Security number?

    Actually, don't bother. I can go look it up in the server.

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    Galileo, would you mind sharing your full name, address, and Social Security number?

    Actually, don't bother. I can go look it up in the server.
    last name is Galilei.

    Address:

    Via Santa Maria, 26 Pisa I-56126 - Italy
    http://www.anitalyattraction.com/ita...of-galileo.htm

    We don't have SS#'s in Italy, sorry.

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    you have several errors.

    First of all, the top floors of the towers are less massive than the lower floors.

    Another problem; WTC 7 was not hit by an airplane, dumb .

    You need to re-do everything and then try again.
    Irrelevant to the ultimate calculation, dipstick.

    Whether the upper floors weighed one pound or a million pounds, the structure below was designed to bear that weight, plus a bit for safety.

    The design parameter is based on the weight of the what the structure above it will weigh.

    So in terms of mass, m, the structure below it was designed to hold some multiple of m.

    So basically you called my math wrong and can't tell me why.

    You don't have a theory, you have dogma. The dogma of the Church of the Holy Conspiracy according to you.

    This dogma cannot be questioned, and any pesky science that gets in the way MUST BE a lie.

    You sound EXACTLY like the "creationist scientists" who ignore the mountain of evidence that points to evolution and simply wave your arms and say "God did it."

    You ignore any logical, scientifically based argument about your religion, just like they do. Congratulations.

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    I'm starting to get the feeling I've been had. I really don't think Galileo believes this crap. I think he's just trolling and having a good time at our expense.


    Because no one can possibly be that dumb.


    TROLL! NO SOUP FOR YOU! Now, GTFO!
    Nope, there are actually idiots out there who genuinely believe this steamy pile of dung. Gal might be among them, it is hard to say.

    He is pretty convincing because he, like most of the twoofers, has mostly abandoned the "WTC towers were a controlled demolition" bit and started hanging his hat the on irrelevant WTC7.

    Prove them wrong in one way, and they simply find some other pile of poo to throw at the wall to see if it sticks.

    BOOOORINNNNGGGG.

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    which building? The one on the right or the left?
    The gray one in the middle with the lighter-colored fire escape going up the side and the busted digital clock on top.



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    Irrelevant to the ultimate calculation, dipstick.

    Whether the upper floors weighed one pound or a million pounds, the structure below was designed to bear that weight, plus a bit for safety.

    The design parameter is based on the weight of the what the structure above it will weigh.

    So in terms of mass, m, the structure below it was designed to hold some multiple of m.

    So basically you called my math wrong and can't tell me why.

    You don't have a theory, you have dogma. The dogma of the Church of the Holy Conspiracy according to you.

    This dogma cannot be questioned, and any pesky science that gets in the way MUST BE a lie.

    You sound EXACTLY like the "creationist scientists" who ignore the mountain of evidence that points to evolution and simply wave your arms and say "God did it."

    You ignore any logical, scientifically based argument about your religion, just like they do. Congratulations.
    the upper portion of WTC 7 didn't fall onto the lower portion.

    I know, I know, you believe in the 5th plane conspiracy theory.

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    the upper portion of WTC 7 didn't fall onto the lower portion.
    Actually the mechanical penthouses did fall into the rest of the building. Pretty heavy.

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    Actually the mechanical penthouses did fall into the rest of the building. Pretty heavy.
    the puny little east penthouse took down WTC 7, eh?

    What brought down the east penthouse?

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    the puny little east penthouse took down WTC 7, eh?
    How much do you think that weighs?

    What brought down the east penthouse?
    The failure of one or more vertical columns and probably one of the transfer trusses.

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    The failure of one or more vertical columns.
    core columns or perimeter columns?

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    core columns or perimeter columns?
    Could have been either or both.

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    The gray one in the middle with the lighter-colored fire escape going up the side and the busted digital clock on top.


    How many floors?

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    Could have been either or both.
    perimeter columns don't make buildings implode.

    and there's no oxygen for fires in the core.

    so you have a double-loser.

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    perimeter columns don't make buildings implode.
    combined with other failures, it sure could.

    and there's no oxygen for fires in the core.
    How did people breathe in the core for 18 years? Scuba tanks?

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    The gray one in the middle with the lighter-colored fire escape going up the side and the busted digital clock on top.


    How many floors?

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    I'd estimate at least 30 floors, but no more than 65.

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    [QUOTE=ChumpDumper]combined with other failures, it sure could.

    QUOTE]

    there weren't any other failures except those in your mind.

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    I'd estimate at least 30 floors, but no more than 65.
    You can't be any more specific than that?

    With all your mathematics training?


    How many floors?

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    there weren't any other failures except those in your mind.
    Said the math major who can't count.

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    You can't be any more specific than that?

    With all your mathematics training?


    How many floors?
    That tower is not in the NISt report, as far as I can tell.

    Why did the east penthouse of WTC 7 fall, if no fires were above floor 13?

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    That tower is not in the NISt report, as far as I can tell.

    Why did the east penthouse of WTC 7 fall, if no fires were above floor 13?

    I know you're just trolling, but I already posted a very good article on the subject -- this one by professional engineers, not by a hippie computer hacker. http://www.structuremag.org/Archives...sanz-Nov07.pdf

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    That tower is not in the NISt report, as far as I can tell.
    You're the one who posted a video of it.

    How many floors?

    Why did the east penthouse of WTC 7 fall, if no fires were above floor 13?
    If some floors and vertical columns fail below that, it could certainly affect the building above.

    How many floors in this picture of the building from your video?



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