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    Tell you guys what. I think that you should just let all your expiring contracts go. Sign a really big name player to go along side of your stars Bowen, Duncan, Parker, Ginobili. Let Tiago out of his contract for cash to say...the Houston Rockets. Use the extra money and sign Arenas or a established Big Man and make Oberto the backup.
    I doubt that would work.
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    How does Tiago compare with Andris Biedrins? Is Tiago anything like Andris Biedrins in terms of having quick feet for a 7 footer, good shot blocker, able to finish at the rim? If Tiago is anything close to Biedrins, then the Spurs MUST convince him to come here.
    Splitter - Better at on floor defense (for sure) and more polished offensive game;

    Biendrins - Better shot blocker and better rebounder.

    I´d take Splitter over Biendrins, but it´s close.
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    One other concievable route the Spurs may have already taken... and one which i think would be a mistake... is to advise Tiago to take a two year deal... and then the Spurs buy him out for 500k after the first year. That could allow Tiago to get paid well for one year... and allow the Spurs to give minutes to Ian.

    I just think that puts Splitter back a year and the Spurs back a year.. Tim Duncan wont be around forever.

    The last scenario seems unliekly but possible.

    In the mean time im gonna continue to hope.. and maybe pray
    This has got to be in the back of their mind when they make deals this offseason...the window won't stay open forever. All i know, is that if Splitter decides to come over here and ends up riding the bench i'm gonna be pissed.
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    Splitter - Better at on floor defense (for sure) and more polished offensive game;

    Biendrins - Better shot blocker and better rebounder.

    I´d take Splitter over Biendrins, but it´s close.

    I'd say Splitter is almost or even in shot blocking.
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    You're gonna have to pay him more money. 2 million dollars will not cut it
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    ^^that's the rookie cap thing
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    You're gonna have to pay him more money. 2 million dollars will not cut it
    Are you failing to ing understand THE ROOKIE SET CAP!??!?
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    Spurs should find some kid in middle school with Superstar written in indelible ink on his forehead and draft him.
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    Are you failing to ing understand THE ROOKIE SET CAP!??!?
    No but you are failing to understand basic economics.

    You're not gonna get him period.
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    No but you are failing to understand basic economics.

    You're not gonna get him period.

    No I'm not.

    The Spurs have a shot though.
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    Lets see 8 x more salary to stay put

    16 million dollars vs 4 million over 2 years. Uhhhh duh! Lets see if we can get your propeller spinning a little faster on your beanie thinking cap. Tiago is staying right where he is unless Stern changes the rules like next week.

    I"ll say it again. Zero chance of getting Splitter.
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    I"ll say it again. Zero chance of getting Splitter.

    This is going in my sig when we sign splitter.
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    The only way you sign Splitter is if you find some other creative way outside the NBA rules to compensate this guy. Shoe contract comes to mind but I don't see Nike or Reebok breaking down any doors to sign him. Any other compensation factors like free house, free car, free golf club membership etc. won't make any difference with this huge salary discrepency.

    Maybe if you kicked money under the table to Tau to pay him from their salary coffers LOL.

    Oh and pleeezzee don't use that washed up old argument that he'd come for the honor of playing in the NBA with the best players in the best league on the planet. That didn't fly before in the ABA and it won't fly now. Otherwise guys like Dr. J, George McGinnis, Artis Gilmore, George Gervin, Dan Issel would never have joined the ABA. You know the saying, "Money Talks and BS Walks".
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    The only way you sign Splitter is if you find some other creative way outside the NBA rules to compensate this guy. Shoe contract comes to mind but I don't see Nike or Reebok breaking down any doors to sign him. Any other compensation factors like free house, free car, free golf club membership etc. won't make any difference with this huge salary discrepency.

    Maybe if you kicked money under the table to Tau to pay him from their salary coffers LOL.

    Oh and pleeezzee don't use that washed up old argument that he'd come for the honor of playing in the NBA with the best players in the best league on the planet. That didn't fly before in the ABA and it won't fly now. Otherwise guys like Dr. J, George McGinnis, Artis Gilmore, George Gervin, Dan Issel would never have joined the ABA. You know the saying, "Money Talks and BS Walks".
    Pretty passionate about it considering it doesn't involve the Rockets one iota. Would appear that somebody is a bit scared of the possibility of Splitter being on the Spurs roster.
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    Actually I see this as an issue with every single NBA club not just the Spurs. This is a problem that has to be fixed if the NBA wants to continue to be the premier league. They have to be compe ive with salaries otherwise, players like Splitter will continue to walk.
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    Today as things stand, the only way Splitter comes is if he wants to play in the league. Salary-wise, the Spurs are hamstrung by the league rules regarding salaries that can be paid first round picks.

    The only reason he would come is if he wants to be in the league. If he signs with Tau for 2 years and comes to the league, he still is in the same rut salary-wise.

    The chances of landing him are slim but it is within the realm of possibility.
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    Just wait until the Euroleague starts waiving that kind of money to our top draft picks.

    lol...you'll see how much the quaint little charm of playing in the NBA matters.
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    Signing Tiago is the only thing which will draw me out of severe depression.


    MAKE IT HAPPEN.
    I would think Manu getting healthy should do the job for you getting out of a severe depression, not signing Tiag Splitter. Tiago will be good, like Scola..let's not make him out to be better than he is.
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    ^^

    that is correct. Global economics being what it is, the European teams and agents have no doubt already figured this out with what is happening with Splitter. This up coming draft, it would not be suprising to see other European teams make a run at NBA draftees. It might not sink in on the general fan base at large here in the States unless some big name signs over there but I wouldn't be suprised to see a number of folks both American and International sign in Europe rather than the NBA because of the compe ive disadvantage the NBA is currently in, in this particular area.

    Thing is, if the league opens up the what can be paid to rookies, the small markets in the NBA will begin to flounder like MLB small market teams do now.

    It's complicated but things are going to change and people in San Antonio, Portland, New Orleans, Memphis, Milwaukee, etc..... may be in for a disappointment.

    Stern has been wanting to appeal to the global market for sometime now. Maybe the solution is to have NBA leagues in the two hemispheres and the championship is played between the two teams that make it through their respective playoffs and you truly have a world champion.
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    Again, since when are European clubs offering 7 year, $120 million contracts? Or measly 5 year, $55 million numbers, for that matter? That's why the NBA continues to be attractive to international talent. It isn't hard to figure out. The longer Splitter takes to join the Spurs, the longer he's going to have to wait for the long term guaranteed money.

    As for the Euroleagues, the NBA could always just raise the rookie scale across the board and them hard.
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    LOL at people getting worried about one of the best player in Europe getting paid big bucks in comparison to the salary of a 28th pick.

    He's the best big man in Europe, of course he's getting a big offer.
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    Again, since when are European clubs offering 7 year, $120 million contracts? Or measly 5 year, $55 million numbers, for that matter? That's why the NBA continues to be attractive to international talent. It isn't hard to figure out. The longer Splitter takes to join the Spurs, the longer he's going to have to wait for the long term guaranteed money.

    As for the Euroleagues, the NBA could always just raise the rookie scale across the board and them hard.

    Then tell Stern to do that by next week LOL. Nope not gonna happen. No rookie scale pay raise. Then again, tell me how many NBA players get 7 year 120 million dollar contracts?
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    Then tell Stern to do that by next week LOL. Nope not gonna happen. No rookie scale pay raise. Then again, tell me how many NBA players get 7 year 120 million dollar contracts?
    Hey dumbass, Kirk Hinrich makes over 11 million dollars a year. Think about that .

    Better yet, Mike Bibby makes over 14 million a year, Rashard Lewis makes almost 16 million a year. Zach Randolph makes over 13 million.

    Yeah, the NBA has much to fear...
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    Hey dumbass, Kirk Hinrich makes over 11 million dollars a year. Think about that .

    Better yet, Mike Bibby makes over 14 million a year, Rashard Lewis makes almost 16 million a year. Zach Randolph makes over 13 million.

    Yeah, the NBA has much to fear...
    Yeah lets see now. That is hmm 9.3 mil Euros for Bibby, 10.6 mil Euros for Lewis, 8.6 mil Euros for Zach. The Euro was started at 1:1 with the US dollar. So their economy hums along and it's all relative. Those Euro's to them is like our dollars so think about that and stick it in your cap.

    Nobody has shown me any 7 year 120 million dollar contracts lol. T-Mac gets a 5 year 100 million dollar contract and Yao has a 5 yr 80 million contract. Does Shaq have a 7yr contract LOL. If our dollar falls anymore to where it's 2 Euros to every dollar you can bet that a lot of players are going there to play. As it stands now, the Euroleague has the ability to pay big bucks if they want to. All they have to do is divert some of that soccor money to basketball.
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    This was posted back in Oct. But here are the top contracts in Europe.

    1. Sarunas Jasikevicius (Panathinaikos) 4.2mio
    2. Theodoros Papaloukas (CSKA) 3.5mio
    3. Ramunas Siskauskas (CSKA) 2.5mio
    4. Arvydas Macijauskas (Olympiakos) 2.2mio
    5. Lazaros Papadopoulos (Real) 2.0mio
    6. Alexei Savrasenko (CSKA) 2.0mio
    7. Dimitris Diamantidis (Panathinaikos) 1.9mio
    8. J.R. Holden (CSKA) 1.85mio
    9. David Anderson (CSKA) 1.8mio
    10. Nikola Vujcic (Maccabi Tel Aviv) 1.7mio
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