This is flawed logic.
You have to look at how to maximise BOTH picks. Spurs have the luxury to do that with two top 8 picks.
If they think Castle isn't going to be there at 8 but there is more of a chance Dillingham will be there but they like Castle the 2nd most after Dillingham, take Castle at 4 and play the odds dillingham falls to 8.
You draft the player least likely to fall to 8 first out of the top 2.
Agree to disagree. I'm not losing out on my favorite player who I think will best help my ball club because I think there's a chance he'll still be there in 4 picks. That's silly. Why risk losing out on him at all when he's right there in your lap..? Especially in a weak draft where teams are more likely to trade down in this scenario. Not worth the risk imo.
Spurs high on Sheppard.
https://www.spurstalk.com/joshua-pri...purs-thoughts/
I'm just going back and reading some of the past write ups by LJ after the draft picks were made. The word "flashes" appears 5 times in the Josh Primo article
Also... this (lol):
Only faith I have right now that the correct player will be chosen is because now you have a gameplan and you have your franchise player. Outside of that, the recent picks are still lackluster and leave a lot to be desired.10) I can’t continue this write-up about Primo without talking about this kid’s character. It’s actually one of his main selling points. As I wrote on the Big Board:“Today, neither Joshua Primo nor Jaden Springer are much to write home about. But both players show enough promise that they could be worth a gamble. Primo, 18, is the youngest player in the draft. The 6-foot-5 guard is a high-character kid who has shown flashes as a shooter and playmaker.”
By all accounts, Primo is an outstanding human being. The Toronto native is as smart as a whip, his teammates love him and he has outstanding leadership traits for his age. At the combine, many scouts said he was the best communicator of any of the players.
The Spurs value character more than any team in the NBA so, in that sense, it’s not a surprise they went with Primo. He’s an A+ in that category. Everyone believes he’ll come in and work as hard as he can and will be a natural fit in an NBA locker room.
- If the Rockets don't trade the pick, they might select Clingan because I'm not sure they're sold on Sengun as a long term centerpiece.
- Sheppard may struggle at the POA, but he should thrive as a team defender which when coupled with his shooting/secondary play making should make him one of the best bets to be positive impact in the draft.
- Risacher obviously won't get to 4, but who cares if he can't create? Neither can Porter Jr., Caldwell-Pope, Gobert, McDaniels, Turner, Nesmith, Gafford, Jones Jr., etc. and those teams aren't worse off for it.
- I don't want Castle or Garland, but the former only makes sense as a prelude to the latter, with Jones involved to make sense of this roster.
The PTSD will be real if we pick Salaun. While he has some intriguing characteristics, it just doesn't make sense on the Wemby timeline. If he had been drafted in the Primo year or the Sochan year, it would make sense - but I don't see the logic the Spurs to have this raw ball of clay that needs developing while we are trying to improve to a playoff team like OKC did*. It would be very much an Ousmane Dieng situation (speaking of OKC), who I'm guessing will never actually find a place on that team because his developmental timeline does match the rest of the teams.
*If PAFTO plans for us to continue to suck as for a few more years so we can "not skip any steps", then Salaun might make sense... but then we need to question the overall sanity and decision making of PAFTO.
The reality is this is most likely coming from Castle’s agent and that it’s based on truth.
Sochan's 3PT% in 2024 was 27.5%. exstatic thinks we should have a parade or some because he improved from embarrassingly bad to shockingly abysmal.
This is what I mean. You are afraid of the risk although he's less likely to get drafted before 8 because of team's needs from 5-7.
I'm willing to take the risk and get maximum return on BOTH picks by getting my top two players if I hit on both of my top two picks. I'm not afraid of the RISK.
Bub is trending upwards (some now even have him top ten FWIW).
Feel he’ll be in play at #8 when all is said and done.
Not questioning it (was obvious long ago), but source?
Castle is not much different and yet many are on board with him. I'm not saying he can't, in a vacuum, play in the league, I'm saying he'd have trouble doing so with a team that already lacks shot creation and can't space the floor.
IMO, Sochan might get us a pick in the 20s in this draft if done before the draft. Teams will place a higher value in the unknown outcome of a draft pick than the relatively known quan y of Sochan (and yes, Sochan can/will continue to develop, but teams will have a high confidence level of what they feel Sochan can become as opposed to the full range of outcomes for a potential draft pick).
I see zero comparison between the two. Castle may have a limited ceiling because of his offensive limitations, but I don't see him as remotely the same kind of project in Salaun is. Obviously we're all free to disagree.
Sorry, are you saying Castle is as raw as Salaun? A guy who was the lead perimeter defender on a ruthlessly dominant NCAA championship team, where he fit in seamlessly often as a lead guard?
Oh yeah? Did you see that somewhere? Could you share.
For whatever it’s worth I see Sochan 3pt % stats go from 24.6 to 30.8 while doubling the amount of makes. All while playing through a really rough “experiment”. If he improves his 3pt % half as much to the next season as he did from his rookie year we should be pretty happy with that.
I feel Sochan the second half of the season was looking quite a bit better until they sat him to finish out the tank.
I agree. People value if not over value the unknown at times.
Castle is more NBA ready in a vacuum, but he'll have trouble looking like an immediate NBA player on this roster all the same.
Also, let's not presume they're looking for or are prioritizing two day one rotation players out of this draft.
last three months he was picking up every teams best player. Stop with the negative propaganda.
This kid has Spurs written all over him I fear. Gonna be a 3-4 year project.
Salaun is the 6’10 stretch-4 PATFO wish Sochan was tbh. He’s nowhere near ready, but that’s likely what PATFO will see in him. Feels like a very Spursy pick at 8.
He didn’t partake at the Combine because his season is still going on, but would be eager to see his actual measurements. He looks a legit 6’9-6’10 barefoot with long arms.
True. I heard a story that Poole played point towards the end and did much better. If true, Tyus may leave for that reason and a thousand more. Drafting two forwards and rolling with the Jones Brothers isn't horrifying, especially if Castle is not available.
like i said not my first choice but he's more ready than most people think The measurements will be interesting, he'll do it in june with the other european prospects
But... Salaun shoots .316 from deep. How is that a stretch four? Tankathon lists his good qualities as... ... ... ... ... draft age.
That's it.
I get people here have a hate boner about Sochan with the whole PG thing I guess, but Salaun is nowhere near able to contribute the way Sochan does. He's just bad at everything.
Realistic or not, its would I think would be a good draft
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