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    I'd like to know what everyone wants them to do if they can't make a move.

    Produce a bigman out of thin air?!?!?

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    Its funny how we play Detroit on the trade deadline....haha

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    The fact that a trade for Wallace or a trade for Carter is getting any mention in national media is enough to suggest to me that there's about zero chance that either will happen.

    I do think this team probably needs to add some talent to feel as though its anything other than a darkhorse to win the West, much less a le.

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    I'd like to know what everyone wants them to do if they can't make a move.

    Produce a bigman out of thin air?!?!?
    dude... there is a reason why Pops is in the Toros nowadays... chill

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    I'd like to know what everyone wants them to do if they can't make a move.

    Produce a bigman out of thin air?!?!?
    I'm not sure that there would be anything to be done there. But, like I say, the point is that getting another big man -- particularly a guy of Rasheed's quality -- would change the likelihood of winning another le.

    No matter who plays here, I'll root for the Spurs to win a le; but without adding a fairly significant piece, I think the objective view would have to be that the Spurs will need some good fortune to get out of the West in 2009. And I think that's true for the specific reason that your question suggests -- they need a big and if they can't get such a guy in a trade, they probably aren't going to get such a guy.

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    I'm not sure that there would be anything to be done there. But, like I say, the point is that getting another big man -- particularly a guy of Rasheed's quality -- would change the likelihood of winning another le.

    No matter who plays here, I'll root for the Spurs to win a le; but without adding a fairly significant piece, I think the objective view would have to be that the Spurs will need some good fortune to get out of the West in 2009. And I think that's true for the specific reason that your question suggests -- they need a big and if they can't get such a guy in a trade, they probably aren't going to get such a guy.
    Well then were ed.

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    Any updates from "SPURSOWNTEXAS" and his "source?"

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    Well then were ed.
    If by " ed" you mean being one of the few teams (maybe 5 or 6) in the league that can realistically think about a le -- albeit while recognizing that it will need a little bit of help to get there -- then yes.

    Your statement, however, proves pretty clearly that Spurs fans are ridiculously spoiled.

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    Any updates from "SPURSOWNTEXAS" and his "source?"
    nope but should have one by the end of the day but assuming that talks will start again by tommorow by something needs to happen on yahoo or espn for this to be a deal but remeber last year with the whole paul gasol trade no one knew of that one so it should be intersting but i probably will call me friend to see if anything has happen i haven't heard anything since that night

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    If by " ed" you mean being one of the few teams (maybe 5 or 6) in the league that can realistically think about a le -- albeit while recognizing that it will need a little bit of help to get there -- then yes.

    Your statement, however, proves pretty clearly that Spurs fans are ridiculously spoiled.
    Not all Spurs fans are spoiled. I've been there through the 20-62 days, and the rough times. Bottom line is this. We are a proud team. We have won 4 les in the last 10 years. We want to win another one. We are not the Atlanta Hawks. We are not the LA Clippers. We go into every year competing for a championship, and damnit, we want it every year. So call it spoiled if you want...that's fine. But that's not going to change the fact that year in year out we believe we want a team that can win it all, and Rasheed would be a step up and in the right direction.

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    We go into every year competing for a championship, and damnit, we want it every year. So call it spoiled if you want...that's fine. But that's not going to change the fact that year in year out we believe we want a team that can win it all, and Rasheed would be a step up and in the right direction.
    Yeah, my point is that the Spurs are competing for a le. If being in position to compete for a le isn't enough -- and concluding that the Spurs are " ed" without a deal, strikes me as falling in that category -- then, yeah, I think spoiled is the right word.

    Should have used something like "some," "many," "a lot," or somesuch, but the point holds.

    We have a team that can win it all; like I say, it might need some help, but it's much less in need of that help than more than 80% of the league.

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    If by " ed" you mean being one of the few teams (maybe 5 or 6) in the league that can realistically think about a le -- albeit while recognizing that it will need a little bit of help to get there -- then yes.

    Your statement, however, proves pretty clearly that Spurs fans are ridiculously spoiled.
    Ridiculously spoiled huh? No maybe i want see my team improve and get better its not a bad thing it comes with the territory of being a fan and who the are you to judge anyone? I can have a opinion.

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    dude... there is a reason why Pops is in the Toros nowadays... chill
    I have some ocean front property in Arizona I wanna sell to you.

    CHEAP.

    PM me.

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    Ridiculously spoiled huh? No maybe i want see my team improve and get better its not a bad thing it comes with the territory of being a fan and who the are you to judge anyone? I can have a opinion.
    Yeah, typically spoiled, myopic Spurs fan now.


    The trevails of winning 4 times in 9 years is getting ridiculously re ed fans such as this apparently.

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    Yeah, my point is that the Spurs are competing for a le. If being in position to compete for a le isn't enough -- and concluding that the Spurs are " ed" without a deal, strikes me as falling in that category -- then, yeah, I think spoiled is the right word.

    Should have used something like "some," "many," "a lot," or somesuch, but the point holds.

    We have a team that can win it all; like I say, it might need some help, but it's much less in need of that help than more than 80% of the league.
    I'm just as big of a Spurs fan as anyone in here, trust me. Let me tell you something honest. Yes..we have a great team..no question. And I have faith that we can win it all. But if we sign Sheed, it will put us in POSITION to do it. Right now, it will be VERY tough to beat the Lakers in a 7 game series with the team we have. With Sheed, it makes it a situation where we might even be favorites.

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    i hope this goes down. PLEASE

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    nope but should have one by the end of the day but assuming that talks will start again by tommorow by something needs to happen on yahoo or espn for this to be a deal but remeber last year with the whole paul gasol trade no one knew of that one so it should be intersting but i probably will call me friend to see if anything has happen i haven't heard anything since that night
    Well come on bro ask your friend! haha. But be sure to come back and give us any updates today or tomorrow, dont leave us hanging. WE NEED SHEED! lol.

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    It's looking more and more like plan A is making a trade for a serviceable big, and plan B is seeing who looks better in 12 weeks, Mahinmi or Mensah-Bonsu. Something as little as an enthusiastic, high energy 8 minutes a game from either one of them would even be helpful.

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    Yeah, typically spoiled, myopic Spurs fan now.


    The trevails of winning 4 times in 9 years is getting ridiculously re ed fans such as this apparently.
    Whats up your ass dude? I wasn't even talking to you head.

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    I'm just as big of a Spurs fan as anyone in here, trust me. Let me tell you something honest. Yes..we have a great team..no question. And I have faith that we can win it all. But if we sign Sheed, it will put us in POSITION to do it. Right now, it will be VERY tough to beat the Lakers in a 7 game series with the team we have. With Sheed, it makes it a situation where we might even be favorites.
    Right. But frankly, Rasheed Wallace ISN'T a reasonable hope. I'll be absolutely shocked if any sort of deal to bring him to the Spurs gets done; the Spurs don't have the assets to make it worthwhile for the Pistons and the Pistons have a far better chance to be economically successful with Sheed than they do with the spare parts the Spurs would be willing to throw in. The sole logical reason that such a deal could even conceivably make sense for the Pistons is the hope that they can get something -- something miniscule -- for Rasheed rather than losing him outright; but for a team that is creating capspace, taking on even minor contracts (George Hill, Roger Mason) is more of a harm than a help. If you stop to think about it, there's virtually nothing about a Sheed-to-SA deal that makes any sense for the Pistons other than offering Rasheed a token of good will for some years of good soldiering.

    And look, anyone can think anything they want to. Just like anyone else, I'm en led to my opinion. And my opinion, on this subject at least, is that thinking the Spurs are " ed" because they aren't the absolute favorites to win the le is ridiculous. Patently ridiculous.

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    Right. But frankly, Rasheed Wallace ISN'T a reasonable hope. I'll be absolutely shocked if any sort of deal to bring him to the Spurs gets done; the Spurs don't have the assets to make it worthwhile for the Pistons and the Pistons have a far better chance to be economically successful with Sheed than they do with the spare parts the Spurs would be willing to throw in. The sole logical reason that such a deal could even conceivably make sense for the Pistons is the hope that they can get something -- something miniscule -- for Rasheed rather than losing him outright; but for a team that is creating capspace, taking on even minor contracts (George Hill, Roger Mason) is more of a harm than a help. If you stop to think about it, there's virtually nothing about a Sheed-to-SA deal that makes any sense for the Pistons other than offering Rasheed a token of good will for some years of good soldiering.

    And look, anyone can think anything they want to. Just like anyone else, I'm en led to my opinion. And my opinion, on this subject at least, is that thinking the Spurs are " ed" because they aren't the absolute favorites to win the le is ridiculous. Patently ridiculous.
    I understand where you're coming from. But at the same time, we know our team is right there...and with Sheed, it makes us favorites. And the truth is, if Detroit is trying to make some more cap room for 2010, they might drop Sheed to us for what we have, knowing he doesn't fit into their future. If it happened with Pao Gasol, it could just as easily happen with Sheed.

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    I understand where you're coming from. But at the same time, we know our team is right there...and with Sheed, it makes us favorites. And the truth is, if Detroit is trying to make some more cap room for 2010, they might drop Sheed to us for what we have, knowing he doesn't fit into their future. If it happened with Pao Gasol, it could just as easily happen with Sheed.
    Sheed's contract will come off the books for Detroit after this season regardless of whether they trade him or not.

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    Don't argue with FWD. he will win.

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    Sheed's contract will come off the books for Detroit after this season regardless of whether they trade him or not.
    Exactly. And if they trade him to try to get back a real player -- say George Hill or Roger Mason -- they'll actually lose cap space instead of gaining it. It might not be much of a difference, but Spurs fans who watched the Summer of 2003 can recount the efforts of the Spurs FO to save every penny of capspace that they could.

    Of course Rasheed Wallace is a great player to hope for; but I don't see the point in getting upset if the Spurs can't convince the Pistons that an apparently-unreasonable trade should somehow be seen as a reasonable choice.

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    Don't argue with FWD. he will win.
    lol...is that because he doesn't give up no matter what, or because he's more knowledgeable? Cuz I tell ya..I can hang..lol

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