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    What's funny about many posters here is that they'll on certain Spurs players and call them scrubs(Green, Mills, Anderson, etc) but then use those same guys in their trade scenarios for star players

    "Green and Mills suck, but maybe we can trade them for Anthony Davis!!"

    "Kyle Anderson is the worst player in the NBA, but I think we could get Isaiah Thomas for him!"
    Imagine you`ve got Boogie Cousins for Hield, mid 1st round pick and fillers

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    Nets are only wanting a 1st and 2nd round pick for Lopez, not too bad at all.
    29th and 59th wont get you there. Who`s filling to equal his salary ?

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    They want a Nets pick and 2 good young prospects. Spurs have none of this.
    Yeh, the only hope is a 3rd team and package Green.

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    This should be a solid buyout market which is where SA has excelled. It's awesome that SA is a destination now. Players actually want to come here.

    It's sort of the cool thing to be a Spur now

    But there is no denying a lot of teams are improving both short-term and longer-term. I just dont get why our division is always so damn brutal. Do no other divisions want to win? GTFO Southwest Division.

    When is the deadline for the buyouts?

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    I disagree. Ginobili's made a career out of it and he turned out pretty OK.

    comparing hall of fame Manu to ing Lou Williams is disgraceful

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    What's funny about many posters here is that they'll on certain Spurs players and call them scrubs(Green, Mills, Anderson, etc) but then use those same guys in their trade scenarios for star players

    "Green and Mills suck, but maybe we can trade them for Anthony Davis!!"

    "Kyle Anderson is the worst player in the NBA, but I think we could get Isaiah Thomas for him!"
    The Mexican posters are pretty easy to pick out in this place. If you've ever talked basketball with one you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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    Yeh, the only hope is a 3rd team and package Green.
    Only if the 3rd team took Butler

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    I guess your higher on green and Mills than I am.
    Its more a chemistry thing tbh. I like some of those players from Utah in the hypothetical trade but I don't think that many players could mesh in our system by playoffs. Plus David lee has been an excellent signing and he fits perfect as a hussle bench catalyst. As for manu you can't replace that level of experience even though he's older than dirt. Playoffs are perfect for manu with the days rest he'll get in between games.

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    When is the deadline for the buyouts?
    Players can be bought out at anytime however to be eligible for the playoffs with another team I believe it's March 1st.

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    What's funny about many posters here is that they'll on certain Spurs players and call them scrubs(Green, Mills, Anderson, etc) but then use those same guys in their trade scenarios for star players

    "Green and Mills suck, but maybe we can trade them for Anthony Davis!!"

    "Kyle Anderson is the worst player in the NBA, but I think we could get Isaiah Thomas for him!"

    Should still be in the running for Post Of The Year in December.

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    paging Hoops Czar "Let's package Dejuan Blair, who sucks, for Kevin Love"

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    Morey senses the opportunity: the Spurs don't scare anybody and are there for the taking..He will keep wheeling and dealing to shore up his team..

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    I'm not sure what Stan Van Gundy is trying to do..I don't think KCP is worth the max, but he shouldn't the first to be jettisoned if SVG is going to be blow this thing up..

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    Until/Unless the Rockets find a way to stop running their offense through Harden so much, nothing will help them. That will be the death of them.

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    Morey senses the opportunity: the Spurs don't scare anybody and are there for the taking..He will keep wheeling and dealing to shore up his team..
    I think that applies to a lot of teams, lol. Those contracts are probably very valuable in the new CBA world. If Houston has contracts of course they're willing to move them for value deals like Lou's deal.

    RC did his work early. With the exception of Parkers legacy/symbolic contract there are no bad deals on the roster right now. The only move that makes sense at this point is to swap misfits (Kyle) or players your gonna have to pay but don't want to (Simmons) with another team looking to do the same.

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    Ainge is a real moron..

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    Ainge is a real moron..
    So no Nets pick and no Crowder? Come on Ainge. What a stingy .

    Reminds me of that person on Craigslist selling a used 10 year old couch who's trying to sell it for the price of the new model of the same couch.

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    So no Nets pick and no Crowder? Come on Ainge. What a stingy .

    Reminds me of that person on Craigslist selling a used 10 year old couch who's trying to sell it for the price of the new model of the same couch.
    I now want them to stand pat and get destroyed either by Cavs or owned as per usual by the Raptors or the more seasoned Wizards, and then find out that Fultz or whoever isn't a cant-miss franchise player, and then face the prospect of max deals for Isaiah/AB and enjoy the coming years of cute little pretension while the Bucks and Philly ascend to conference powerhouse status..

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    Until/Unless the Rockets find a way to stop running their offense through Harden so much, nothing will help them. That will be the death of them.
    Lou Williams helps with that. Adding another $10-12 million guy probably would as well.

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    Lou Williams helps with that. Adding another $10-12 million guy probably would as well.
    It's not a matter of talent. They already have that. It's gonna be a matter of scheme. Will Harden let himself not touch the ball?

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    Until/Unless the Rockets find a way to stop running their offense through Harden so much, nothing will help them. That will be the death of them.
    If you watch the actual games, Capela and Nene getting bullied in the paint and not being able to rebound is what kills them.

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    If you watch the actual games, Capela and Nene getting bullied in the paint and not being able to rebound is what kills them.
    That's even worse. I was talking about in the playoffs when teams actually try to stop Harden. If those guys aren't going to be factors in the playoffs, they could struggle to beat Memphis in the first round.

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    Yeah, the Rockets' ORTG with Harden on the court is 117.1 (for reference, GS has the #1 offense in the league at 116.8). I don't think there's any issue with how the offense is ran while he's playing.

    The problem is that the offense suffers a noticeable decline with Harden on the bench, and also their defense is pretty average. The addition of Lou Williams will likely address the former. If they do indeed end up getting a quality player in the $10-12 million range that can bolster their defense/rebounding, they'll likely pose a legitimate threat to SA.

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    I'm not sure what Stan Van Gundy is trying to do..I don't think KCP is worth the max, but he shouldn't the first to be jettisoned if SVG is going to be blow this thing up..
    http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zwwsd5n

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    a bit of a head scratcher..Don't think Morey is stupid to do Beverley-Shump swap..

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