Woj: Marcus Morris Reneging on Agreement with Spurs?

[TXstbobcat]

If the spurs had Suge Knight on the front office payroll issues like this would be taken care of quickly.

[spurraider21]

I don’t do labor and employment, but the CBA supplants/provides the law for the parties

i mean if i signed a contract tomorrow to play for the miami heat for 4 years 400 million, i cant say its enforceable just because we signed it. there are NBA rules that must be adhered to in these contractual agreements. one of them is probably that they must sign an NBA form contract and it must be in writing and submitted to the league before being official/binding

[keithington1]

Melo time

[lmbebo]

i mean if i signed a contract tomorrow to play for the miami heat for 4 years 400 million, i cant say its enforceable just because we signed it. there are NBA rules that must be adhered to in these contractual agreements. one of them is probably that they must sign an NBA form contract and it must be in writing and submitted to the league before being official/binding

You are correct. Former boss's son is an NBA lawyer who reviews all NBA contracts after signing.

[vy65]

i mean if i signed a contract tomorrow to play for the miami heat for 4 years 400 million, i cant say its enforceable just because we signed it. there are NBA rules that must be adhered to in these contractual agreements. one of them is probably that they must sign an NBA form contract and it must be in writing and submitted to the league before being official/binding

Why not? Offer, acceptance, consideration. Employment contracts need not be written to be enforceable so long as the statute of frauds is satisfied.

The CBA contemplates a negotiation during the moratorium. If the parties reach a deal, they have an agreement. I’m unclear why it has to be written to be enforceable. Maybe the CBA says otherwise, but I haven’t seen that provision yet.

[spurraider21]

Why not? Offer, acceptance, consideration. Employment contracts need not be written to be enforceable so long as the statute of frauds is satisfied.

because you can contract around the law with a CBA, which the nba has done

The CBA contemplates a negotiation during the moratorium. If the parties reach a deal, they have an agreement. I’m unclear why it has to be written to be enforceable. Maybe the CBA says otherwise, but I haven’t seen that provision yet.

contemplates negotiations but specifically says they cant enter into contract until after the moratorium

[Chinook]

It goes with him because he's looking for another deal after this one. Who thinks he'll be negotiating in good faith? For Klutch, this is even more damaging. There's a reason why Pelinka dropped Boozer after that fiasco: he needed to be seen as working in good faith. There was that dude where his agent's office failed to turn in a form and cost him millions of dollars. They paid him themselves. There's a reason why good faith and word of honor are extremely important.

Yes, if Morris either goes to NYK or finds a way to get a better deal out of SA (can't imagine what that would be at this point), then it would hurt him. If he stays with the Spurs, people will just think, "Yeah, it was like double what he was going to make in SA, but he still chose to stick to the Spurs. Must mean he bought in." Giving this its due consideration is just common sense. You word matters, but Morris hasn't made the huge money his twin has. $6 Million is a lot. Paul's already sleazy, but he also is responsible for making sure his client knows what offers are on the table. He won't be hurt if Morris signs with the Spurs. If Morris leaves, then he'll be lambasted for all the reasons we've discussed. But there's very little downside to delaying the signing a few more days on its own.

[Marcus Bryant]

Morris playing a season in SA getting solid starting minutes on a playoff team would position him very well for free agency next summer. He got lost in the shuffle this season with so many names hitting the market.

Yes, the reported gross contract offer is substantially higher, but the take home difference is less. Getting crap minutes for a team doesn't seem like the best approach in a contract year, but hey, he got paid more today.

[vy65]

because you can contract around the law with a CBA, which the nba has done

contemplates negotiations but specifically says they cant enter into contract until after the moratorium

Is signing the NBA model form contract a condition precedent to the deal being enforced? Maybe, maybe not. I did a quick scan of the CBA and didn’t see anything suggesting that it was a precondition.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I think we almost have to forget about this guy. He doesn't want to be here and this seems like a not insignificant character issue. A shady character and doesn't like the Spurs?

What's the point in having him?

I imagine that Dejounte's gonna be a problem too, if he shows any signs of being above average.

Sigh.

Gonna take our lumps now, but gotta make a note of not dealing with Klutch Sports players in the future.

[spurraider21]

Is signing the NBA model form contract a condition precedent to the deal being enforced? Maybe, maybe not. I did a quick scan of the CBA and didn’t see anything suggesting that it was a precondition.

pretty sure the NBA is a party to all player contracts, its not just the player and the team. theres already been precedent where the nba was able to void a player's contract when it was determined that it violated the salary cap (chris dudley)

[poopbox]

It's interesting that Morris hasn't made a decision yet. I thought that he'd quickly sign with the Knicks after the news hit the press.

This is definitely a case of no news is good news for the Spurs. The longer this stretches out, the better chance that he'll ultimately pick the Spurs.

Probably got other agents and nba people in his ear telling him how bad he ing it up for everybody...

And no...their is nothing good about a guy who was going to sign with you but deciding to sign with knicks...cause a guy who would sign with knicks isn't someone who can really help you win at a high level...by virtue of even considering the knicks...

Kind of like when Lamarcus was like "I'm really considering Phoenix"...should have pulled the plug then...

[vy65]

pretty sure the NBA is a party to all player contracts, its not just the player and the team. theres already been precedent where the nba was able to void a player's contract when it was determined that it violated the salary cap (chris dudley)

Section 1. Required Form.
The Player Contract to be entered into by each player and the Team by which he is employed shall be a Uniform Player Contract in the form annexed hereto as Exhibit A.

I don’t read that to provide a condition precedent to enforceability.

[timvp]

Tbh, the more I think about it, this would actually work in Morris' favor if he signs with the Spurs. San Antonio would celebrate a guy who turned down more money from New York City to play for the Spurs. It wouldn't be a negative at all.

I think the Knicks have the better shot of signing him but all isn't lost. And Morris' reputation isn't damaged at all if he picks the Spurs.

[Budkin]

I think we almost have to forget about this guy. He doesn't want to be here and this seems like a not insignificant character issue. A shady character and doesn't like the Spurs?

What's the point in having him?

I imagine that Dejounte's gonna be a problem too, if he shows any signs of being above average.

Sigh.

Gonna take our lumps now, but gotta make a note of not dealing with Klutch Sports players in the future.

But if he doesn't like the Spurs why did he agree to sign?

[vy65]

pretty sure the NBA is a party to all player contracts, its not just the player and the team. theres already been precedent where the nba was able to void a player's contract when it was determined that it violated the salary cap (chris dudley)

It’s not

THIS AGREEMENT made this _____ day of___________________, is by and between ________________________ (hereinafter called the “Team”), a member of the National Basketball Association (hereinafter called the “NBA” or “League”) and ___________________, an individual whose address is shown below (hereinafter called the “Player”). In consideration of the mutual promises hereinafter contained, the parties hereto promise and agree as follows:

Also the NBA is not on the sig bloc

EXAMINE THIS CONTRACT CAREFULLY BEFORE SIGNING IT.
THIS CONTRACT INCLUDES EXHIBITS ________, WHICH ARE ATTACHED HERETO AND MADE A PART HEREOF.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF the Player has hereunto signed his name and the Team has caused this Contract to be executed by its duly authorized officer.
Dated: By: le:
Team:
Dated: By: Player:
Player’s Address:

[Dhbsr555]

Morris going to ny spurs look else where

[RD2191]

This mother er ain't picking the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

Morris playing a season in SA getting solid starting minutes on a playoff team would position him very well for free agency next summer. He got lost in the shuffle this season with so many names hitting the market.

Yes, the reported gross contract offer is substantially higher, but the take home difference is less. Getting crap minutes for a team doesn't seem like the best approach in a contract year, but hey, he got paid more today.

All of that plus the Spurs are a highly regarded franchise with far reaching relationships and respect. This can’t bode well for anyone that values character. Why would you trust anything he says or make him a priority after this?

If he was not a priority with his reputation at the highest it’s been, why would this UP his appeal?

[acoelho1]

Whatever happen to personal responsibility? Rich Paul can't force his clients to take certain actions. Morris gave his word and now he has reservations and ultimately, it's his decision, not Klutch's. Also, not sure why Murray is being added to the discussion. I think Spurs fans are on hyper paranoia after the Kawhi fiasco. Murray is his own man and it appears the organization has a great relationship with him so I'm not concerned about his extension talks.

[DPG21920]

Tbh, the more I think about it, this would actually work in Morris' favor if he signs with the Spurs. San Antonio would celebrate a guy who turned down more money from New York City to play for the Spurs. It wouldn't be a negative at all.

I think the Knicks have the better shot of signing him but all isn't lost. And Morris' reputation isn't damaged at all if he picks the Spurs.

Bruh - no. I hate Morris no matter what he does from here on out (unless he picks SA and plays amazing and works hard to shed this bs incident). I think most fans at least feel the same way.

How he’s viewed in a locker room and by teams may differ.

[FkLA]

Looking at Klutch's list of clients, the most notable are guys like Draymond, JR Smith, T. Thompson, Wall, Morris twins, Bledsoe, Bazley, Ben Simmons, Nerlens Noel, etc. Not exactly the most upstanding guys or best teammates.

But I'm sure Murray will turn out just fine.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I was kind of annoyed at first heard this news... but then I realized it’s just Marcus Morris.

[vy65]

pretty sure the NBA is a party to all player contracts, its not just the player and the team. theres already been precedent where the nba was able to void a player's contract when it was determined that it violated the salary cap (chris dudley)

Section 5. Conformity.
(a) All currently effective Player Contracts, and all Player Contracts entered into on or after the effective date of this Agreement that do not otherwise so provide, shall be deemed amended in such manner to require the parties to comply with all terms of this Agreement, including the terms of the Uniform Player Contract annexed hereto as Exhibit A. All Player Contracts shall be subject to the terms of this Agreement, which shall supersede the terms of any Player Contract inconsistent herewith. No Player Contract shall provide for the waiver by a player or a Team of any benefits or the sacrifice of any rights to which the player or the Team is en led by virtue of a Uniform Player Contract or this Agreement.

But you’re right in that the contracts are subject to the CBA’s restrictions, hence the Jard Dudley example. Still don’t think it supplants common law like frauds

[Marcus Bryant]

All of that plus the Spurs are a highly regarded franchise with far reaching relationships and respect. This can’t bode well for anyone that values character. Why would you trust anything he says or make him a priority after this?

If he was not a priority with his reputation at the highest it’s been, why would this UP his appeal?

True. The timetable within free agency is very tight. Why's a team going to pursue a given free agent who's demonstrated that his verbal agreement means jack and risk screwing up its offseason?