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    I can see Wemby pulling a Kawhi and leaving after his contract is up. Some of you guys are just as cheap as the front office. Why are y'all concerned about the money the Spurs will be spending? It's not your money. Make a splash and go after a big name for once, even if you're overpaying. It happens. But this "let's wait and see if we can grab cheap talent who will be an All-NBA player one day" has to stop. This is a two star a team league and we're going to need another one at some point. Free agents aren't knocking down doors to play here and they don't come cheap. The era of the way Duncan did things is over. Pay up or forever be looking for the next best cheap thing smh.
    Bulls: drafted Jordan 3rd in 1984. Traded 8th pick and Olden Polynice to draft Scottie Pippen 5th in 1987. Drafted Horace Grant 10th in 1987.

    Lakers: traded basically entire team for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1975. Drafted Magic Johnson 1st in 1979. Drafted James Worthy 1st in 1982.

    Warriors: Drafted Steph Curry 7th in 2009. Drafted Klay Thompson 11th in 2011. Drafted Draymond Green 35th in 2012.

    Spurs: Drafted Duncan 1st in 1997. Drafted Ginobili 57th in 1999. Drafted Parker 29th in 2001.

    It seems as though maybe there’s a blueprint for building dynasties largely through the draft once you have your franchise player, and so it’s not necessary to blow one’s wad in the near term.

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    After all the discussion of keeping cap free to facilitate any big deals, I don't see how the Spurs get involved with Blazers and Heat here. Seems like Portland just has to suck up whatever Miami cobbles together. Nothing will appeal to the Spurs and there are no assets to be accrued.

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    Thibk about it beyond your initial reaction. I agree it sounds crazy in theory but It will expire just in time for other contracts to kick in. Also remember the cap will be over $180M at that point. Or roughly 1/3rd the cap. That's not a big deal for a run at a sneaky chip before our core is fully developed.
    That's the whole point, this team + Dame isn't even sniffing WCF with Denver (and others in). That's 32 old Lillard who never really did anything in the NBA we're talking about, not prime MJ...

    You guys gets excited way too easily, it's not 2K. This trade doesn't make sense. You're losing a haul for no chance of really achieving anything. Victor has zero games in the NBA and the rest of the roster is a bunch of youngsters + fringe NBA players. I mean, why Lillard would even want to come here and lose his last 2-3 years of relevance...?

    the best trades are the ones you don't make
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    Spurs could literally get Dame for less than they got for Dejounte no brainer

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    That Bobby Marks proposal of Vassell + Doug + CHA pick for Dame….man, if you are only giving up one pick, a lottery protected one at that and Doug? I think Vassell is worth giving up in that type of deal tbh…

    Spurs still have tons of picks including all their own and all their other young talent and swap Vassell upcoming 20-25M + Dougs money for paying Dame an extra 25M?

    I still dont want it but if that’s all it takes? I would understand it.

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    Bulls: drafted Jordan 3rd in 1984. Traded 8th pick and Olden Polynice to draft Scottie Pippen 5th in 1987. Drafted Horace Grant 10th in 1987.

    Lakers: traded basically entire team for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1975. Drafted Magic Johnson 1st in 1979. Drafted James Worthy 1st in 1982.

    Warriors: Drafted Steph Curry 7th in 2009. Drafted Klay Thompson 11th in 2011. Drafted Draymond Green 35th in 2012.

    Spurs: Drafted Duncan 1st in 1997. Drafted Ginobili 57th in 1999. Drafted Parker 29th in 2001.

    It seems as though maybe there’s a blueprint for building dynasties largely through the draft once you have your franchise player, and so it’s not necessary to blow one’s wad in the near term.
    Jordan didn’t win his first ring until the age of 28. The Bulls should/could have been more aggressive so as to not waste his earlier years.

    Draymond was drafted with the 35th pick. A low pick like that is what the Spurs will continue to have if they trade for Lillard.

    Same with the Spurs big 3. The Spurs don’t lose their ability to build a dynasty if they get Lillard. Period.

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    F'ing Twitter pulling the plug on free agency... I can't see a damn thing

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    That Bobby Marks proposal of Vassell + Doug + CHA pick for Dame….man, if you are only giving up one pick, a lottery protected one at that and Doug? I think Vassell is worth giving up in that type of deal tbh…

    Spurs still have tons of picks including all their own and all their other young talent and swap Vassell upcoming 20-25M + Dougs money for paying Dame an extra 25M?

    I still dont want it but if that’s all it takes? I would understand it.
    Theoretically...

    You don't need to give Vassell. You just have to beat Miami's package, which is ass.

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    Been watching the ESPN free agency special last two days and I swear one of these days Richard Jefferson and perk are gonna throw hands lol

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    Lillard is just the latest shiny object for Spurstalk posters to obsess over because the offseason is boring. It doesn’t make any sense, but it’s interesting.

    The Spurs obviously have no interest in paying him $60 million when he’s 36 years old and in steep decline at a time when Victor is entering his prime and they really need to put capable pieces around him.

    We’re just raging against the inevitability of another losing season with no playoffs in 2023-24.

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    People totally ignoring Shams litterally saying Lillard only wants to go to Miami

    We got our 2023 Corey Magette

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    A guy on YouTube did a simulation. Wemby played 26 years, was all-time in scoring, rebounds and blocks, won 7 rings, 4 MVP, and 8 dpoy.
    Can't argue with that

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    Theoretically...

    You don't need to give Vassell. You just have to beat Miami's package, which is ass.
    We don't have the cap space to do it without taking McBuckets and Vassell off the payroll

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    People totally ignoring Shams litterally saying Lillard only wants to go to Miami

    We got our 2023 Corey Magette
    True. But unlike Beal Dame has no no trade clause. So POR can ultimately decide best offer. But agree if Dame wants MIA that’s likely what happens.

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    The third team in a potential Portland/Miami trade would be a team willing to take Tyler Herro and/or Duncan Robinson.

    If I were Spurs GM, there is now way I would want these players given their contracts.

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    even McDermott, Graham, Birch, Osman, Stevens, CHA, CHI and TOR pick plus 3 second rounders would beat Miami's package

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    Brook just got paid, leaving us with McDaniels and Reaves as potential FA targets.

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    Back to Milwaukee for Lopez

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    Brolo in the bucks

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    Free agent center Brook Lopez has agreed to a two-year, $48 million deal to return to the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

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    Free agent center Brook Lopez has agreed to a two-year, $48 million deal to return to the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

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    Would be sick if Dame wanted PHI and SA could snag Maxey

    Something like:

    PHI Gets: Dame Lillard

    POR Gets: picks and expiring deals

    Clippers Get: Harden

    Spurs Get: Maxey + salaries

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    Nice, Houston Hope they drop $20MM a year on Dillon Brooks.

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    r/ripcity reddit in shambles. Shades of the Kawhi fiasco. You love to see it.

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    The third team in a potential Portland/Miami trade would be a team willing to take Tyler Herro and/or Duncan Robinson.

    If I were Spurs GM, there is now way I would want these players given their contracts.
    Exactly…there’s not enough compensation there to take that on unless POR would give up Sharpe or something like that which they wouldn’t in a rebuild

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