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spurraider21 your patience is commendable
We're getting KD aren't we?
Finally we'll be back in the ing playoffs next season
spurraider21 your patience is commendable
It's hard to believe Houston can't beat that.
We currently have ten players under contract. If you unnecessarily throw Branham in, you leave yourself with 8 players under contract after the deal.
I know. But having Fox, Wemby, Castle and Harper max extensions kicking in back to back won’t be that easy to offset, although it works in theory if you trade Fox in the offseason where Harper‘s extension kicks in.
I‘m just saying what if the Spurs value keeping Vassell, drafting 2 guys in the top 10 with All-Star potential who you won’t have to max out on their first extensions and getting future draft assets more than drafting Harper?
Problem is:
1) Wemby gets paid in 2 years (30% of the cap, assuming DPOY at least)
2) Fox gets extended as soon as next season (30% of the cap, assuming wink wink deal at the time of the trade)
That gives the Spurs a 2 year window to exploit this to their advantage, in 3/4 years Spurs will be in the same boat as everybody else. So while it is reasonable to assume there will be players Spurs can get at a discount (Fox, probably KD now), if they're aging stars then probably their cost of acquisition will be rendered moot by their salary cap implications.
Since I don't really believe Spurs can realistically win in this window, I'd probably favor using this time to acquire youngish vets that fit alongside the young core (low usage wings and forwards who can defend, rebound, shoot, have something above their shoulders) and can grow with them.
If Spurs clog their cap sheets with overpaid vets, it's going to be difficult to find these important pieces and you'll end up building more like the Lakers (high profile core, lots of min vets) than OKC (some young top end talent, but lots of high level role players that really make sense around them). I prefer the latter model, but if the price is low enough I guess you have to take whatever opportunity comes your way.
Last edited by Ariel; 06-04-2025 at 07:08 PM.
Minnesota and likely a couple other teams will be in the mix as well. Shams reported today that he expects there to be 4-6 strong suitors for KD. It’s not like we’ll be the only ones making Phoenix offers.
That being said, some of the rumors have pointed to SA being the preferred destination. If KD makes it clear he won’t sign an extension elsewhere and has no interest being there, I have to imagine that will scare other teams off.
listen i know its hard for you to understand and it hurts you that i pointed out that fact but to even put them in the same category at this point is dumb tbh
Durant supposedly doesn’t want Houston.
They call me a contrarian LeBowen
i didnt put them in the same category. i couldnt have laid it out more clearly than i just did
you're either trolling at this point or simply incapable of having a conversation
A team with Fox, Castle, KD and Wemby can play for the le if they can also find a backup 4-5.
im not the one deflecting like you are.. i couldnt of been more clear as well tbh
this will go well
Like with Fox, I have to think the ability to offer an extension plays a major part. Not dinging those guys, they're being pragmatic.
Yup. That’s today’s NBA. If you’re approaching the end of your contract, you have all of the leverage.
He’s been an owner for like 5 minutes. He managed to sit on his hands for 5 minutes.
If Wemby wants to win multiple championships, he’ll need to be willing to sacrifice some salary to be able to fund quality supporting team members. Same as DROB & TD did. As far as being rich is concerned, getting paid $500M vs $300M isn’t dramatically different as far as quality of life is concerned. However, if his ego demands the $$$ as being his scorecard instead of the number of championships, the Spurs may not be willing to play that game.
Tim got full maximum salary and raises for his first 13 seasons. Before the CBA had a lot of salary rules, David had a contract that paid him the average of the top 2 salaries in the league. Neither one of them gave up much until very late in their careers.
Stumbled across this. Don’t really know who this guy is and he doesn’t have a big following, but he is being followed by Jonathon Givony of ESPN/DraftExpress…so maybe not totally full of ? Figured I’d post either way.
Need to include the entire url in the brackets.
Only trust tspence tbh.
I'm too lazy to read all the previous posts, tbh.
Winning now/next 2 years makes sense.
A lot of people seem to think the Spurs still wouldn't contend with Durant, that they'd be too young, too inexperienced.
I disagree
OKC is proving that winning young is possible.
What was Daignault's playoff record before this season? One series win against a joke Pelicans team, and now he's on the verge of being a le winning coach.
That one series win of experience counts for all the players too, except SGA had 6 playoff games as a Clippers rookie and 7 in his first okc year.
They added 2 key rotation pieces in Hartenstein and Caruso, and it's been plug and play, no need to wait years for chemistry to kick in.
And a Spurs team with Durant and Fox won't be lacking in veteran knowledge. And they still would have a shot at adding a good veteran back up center like Brook Lopez.
Would it be better if they could snap their fingers and get PJ Washington to sign an under market 4 year extension with SA after a trade? Probably, yes. But that's probably not happening. Getting core pieces for the future at a bargain price is a great goal, but real life steps in to make it hard so take what you can while you can.
, I'd love John Collins. But Collins isn't going to opt out to lose $10 million a year to sign with SA. Even if you trade for him, is he going to give a discount off the 25+ a year he's used to?
The key to this next stretch of years and the NBA adjusting to the new cap realities is what Nate Duncan called teams needing to be comfortable being uncomfortable. Meaning deals that used to be easy now need to be negotiated and even walked away from. Denver screwed itself by giving Porter the Max and then extending Murray on the Max instead of making them earn it or sweat it out.
Spurs need that discipline now with Sochan. The reality of future money to fox, Castle, Harper means Sochan can't get $20 a year. he might not deserve $15 a year. Spurs have to be disciplined and willing to lose him after his rookie deal, hopefully by sign and trade to get something for him, but they have to play hardball.
Will Durant’s game age like Ray Allen’s? Someone else?
Allen’s stats seemed to drop quite a bit around 37. I don’t want Durant unless we get him really, really cheap. Even then, the $50 million might hurt next year.
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