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    Mug....did you find anymore Easter eggs?

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    Mug....did you find anymore Easter eggs?
    I'm waiting for a better screen shot on one, but it has to do with one of the others.

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    This episode was good but yeah it was predictable. I guess that Sawyer told Kate to visit Cassidy and was right. I also guessed that Kate left Aaron with Claire's mother. I wonder how that was anyways? I know I would be scared to live with a strange woman who I never met before if I was his age, no matter who she was.

    I can't believe that Jack didn't save Ben! I wonder what would have happened if Jack saved him or Ben, yes whatever happened, happened, but still... it's always fun to wonder.

    I thought that Richard took Ben to Jacob, but I guess it's something in the temple because that's where he took him right?

    I guess now we know why Ben doesn't remember Sayid shooting him and how Ben turned evil. "He had his innocence taken from him and he doesn't remember anything". At least that's what Richard said.

    The scene at the end was awesome! "Welcome back to the land of the living".

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    ^^^^^

    Yea, no ......the look on Ben's face when he saw Locke sitting there. Priceless!!!!!!!

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    Aah ok. Thanks Mugshot.

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    I can't believe that Jack didn't save Ben! I wonder what would have happened if Jack saved him or Ben, yes whatever happened, happened, but still... it's always fun to wonder.
    If Jack would've decided to help out with the surgery, he would've failed. It would've played out like this:

    Jack: I can't do it, I can't close the leak. (or some other type of medical failure)
    Kate: What do we do?? We cant just let that kid die, its wrong!

    -Juliette makes a concerned face-

    Kate: What's wrong Juliette?
    Juliete: The Others can help him....
    Kate: Let's do it!
    Jack: uh..I don't know if we should do that. We are sending him to the very people that enabled Ben to wreak havok on our lives!
    Kate: We can't just let that kid die Jack!

    -Jack submits-

    Jack: I want no part of this

    -Kate and Juliette carries Ben to the car-

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    Kate was ridiculously hot while in the Grocery Store.

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    Kate was ridiculously hot while in the Grocery Store.
    No kidding. Why are there never any women like that at my HEB.

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    A sober retrospective....

    I wasn't necessarily wowed by anything that happened with Kate relative to her backstory. I'm not sure I buy the supermarket episode as enough of a shock to push her over the edge and make her give up Aaron.

    But that aside, I thought the episode killed. I'm especially impressed with the character development of Sawyer. In the past (lol!) he was guided by his emotion, whether it was anger toward Jack or lust/love toward Kate. Now, he's calm and calculated...he always has an answer for everything. And of course, he's still a badass. This (1970s Dharma) is clearly his place and time to shine.

    I give the backstory a C, but the layout of current events an A...very good episode.

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    ^ Nicely said.. that's how I felt too. Next episode looks very exciting! I've been waiting for the story to go back to Locke/Ben.

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    Kate looked hot as a fake MILF. That whole dress skirt/nice shirt outfit with heels looked sexy on her.
    I think that Kate and Sawyer taking Ben to Richard and the Others was predestined. Ben was going to wind up with Richard and the Others no matter what. They did something to him that made him what he is now. They turned him into an evil manipulative person.

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    so, is widmore farraday's daddy?

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    so, is widmore farraday's daddy?
    That's the way that it is looking....

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    Was it just me or did Ben look dissapointed that "It" let him live?

    And what exactly did he ask Sun to apologize to Desmond for if he got the beat out of him? For pointing the gun? That doesn't seem right.

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    Was it just me or did Ben look dissapointed that "It" let him live?

    And what exactly did he ask Sun to apologize to Desmond for if he got the beat out of him? For pointing the gun? That doesn't seem right.
    My guess would be because he tried to kill Penny. It looks like Ben is actually starting to show his compassionate side (yeah i know he still killed Caesar)

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    My guess would be because he tried to kill Penny. It looks like Ben is actually starting to show his compassionate side (yeah i know he still killed Caesar)
    See, I thought that he was apologizing for killing Penny, then later when they showed his attempt and he didn't go through with it, I instantly thought that maybe something else happens later. It doesn't seem very Ben-like to apologize for something he didn't actually do. But then again, this episode was all about Ben not being Ben. So maybe you are right.

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    Maybe he wanted to apologize to Desmond for, you know, shooting him. That and almost killing his wife in front of their child.

    Good episode, I'm starting to get back into Lost.

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    Very good episode. Dead is Dead! Smokey didn't scare me as much as in previous episodes., but seeing Alex again did! Smokey turned into Alex for that brief moment?

    Did Ben suddenly show compassion for Penny when he heard her call the baby Charlie?

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    See, I thought that he was apologizing for killing Penny, then later when they showed his attempt and he didn't go through with it, I instantly thought that maybe something else happens later. It doesn't seem very Ben-like to apologize for something he didn't actually do. But then again, this episode was all about Ben not being Ben. So maybe you are right.
    He tried to kill Penny as revenge because he held Widmore responsible for killing Alex. He paused when he saw Charlie because it reminded him of when he spared Alex and Rousseau in the first place. That gave Desmond enough time to stop him.

    By the time he makes the comment to Sun about apologizing to Desmond, he has come to terms with his own accountability for Alex's death. It was the island rather than Widmore that wanted Ben to leave. Ben chose to sacrifice Alex in a futile attempt to stay. In light of his coming to terms with that, his attempt to kill Penny was utterly senseless.

    This episode catalogues Ben's rise to power on the island over Widmore. Widmore wanted Alex killed, and Ben called him out on it, saying it was what Widmore wanted, not what the island wanted. When Widmore is banished, Ben tells him it was because he was selfish. He looked out for himself rather than the island. Widmore tells him that one day Ben will find himself in the same shoes. And indeed in the end, Ben has become like Widmore. He acts in his own best interest rather than island's. He ends up being responsible for Alex's death. And the island's judgment upon him is that like Widmore, he has to give up power, in this case to Locke.

    But Ben won't go along easily.

    So why did he apologize to Desmond rather than, say, Penny? Maybe he sees Desmond as an innocent bystander with no role in this grudge match between him and Widmore (boy would he be wrong). Maybe when he saw young Charlie, he then saw Desmond as the father Ben himself in the end failed to be.

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    The "tell Desmond I'm sorry" line served two purposes. First, it was the writers' way of tricking us into believing that Ben had actually gone through with Penelope's murder. Second, it actually makes more sense to apologize for an attempted murder (...or for shooting Desmond....or for even pointing a gun in the Penny's direction...) than it would be to apologize for actually killing someone. After you murder someone, apologies aren't really enough to make any sort of amends.

    It amazes me that the writers have such a firm grasp of Ben's character, and how they've managed to weave his storyline so intricately into the main plot. Especially when you consider how Ben, as originally written, was only supposed to last a couple of episodes.

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    very good episode.
    great scene when the smoke monster is surrounding Ben and flashing moments of his life with Alex.

    Also very cryptic who is Ilana, is she an other, is she a dharma or a widmore girl? I guess we will found out soon.

    "What lies in the shadow of the statue?", obviously Ilana has some agenda.
    Whats up with that huge crate?

    was that Anubis on the tablet with the smoke?

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    was that Anubis on the tablet with the smoke?
    I haven't rewatched the episode to confirm, but yeah, I think that was Anubis.

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    I haven't rewatched the episode to confirm, but yeah, I think that was Anubis.
    that would make sense.
    He is the god of the dead and he and the monster looked like they were talking to each other.

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    Finally a decent episode after a load of crap.

    The Dharma storyline couldn't be more boring.

    And when is Kate going to be killed? Her episode last week almost made me gouge my eyes out. She's still ing annoying and useless and I still don't understand why the she gets so much screentime over characters like Locke and Desmond and Sayid.

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    Caesar won't be dead. They've devoted too much time into him to have him randomly killed off and forgotten about.

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