I just don't like it when Ginobili picks up cheap fouls by flopping or gets cheap fouls by throwing his elbow into Raja Bell in OT. He's crafty enough without the antics... I've always thought of him as a clean (albiet, dramatic) player, but that elbow to the gut push was a little below him and something I'd expect to see from Jason Terry or Josh Howard, or.... well, the whole Dallas squad. Bowen isn't dirty, either, he's just a pest and so I continue to disagree with the many Suns/Mavs fans that call him dirty. He just gets away with a lot of grabbing and being "handsy" but no one can doubt his hustle, intensity, and dedication to being a defensive stopper.