I wonder if we hear anything out of Spanoulis or his agent.
@Bruno: Do you know if Splitter also has a deadline until they can decide to buy him out? Is there even a chance that he comes over this year?
And for people crying because Spurs have given Scola to a rival :
1) It's far from done that Scola will be a good nba player. He has shown obvious limitations in europe during big games.
2) Spurs FO have questioned Scola ability to play with Duncan. Will he be able to play with Yao ?
3) It's not Scola or nothing for Rockets. Rockets will spend a part of the MLE to get Scola. With the MLE they could have had a player like Joe Smith. Will Scola be an upgrade over Joe Smith ? Likely but not in his rookie year.
I wonder if we hear anything out of Spanoulis or his agent.
@Bruno: Do you know if Splitter also has a deadline until they can decide to buy him out? Is there even a chance that he comes over this year?
He was contacted and informed of the trade and he took the same stance saying he doesnt want to come to America
Thanks Sam.
Wonder if those teams Scola had on his list were for the most part ones needing a PF and one problem with the Spurs was he knew he wouold be buried on the bench with the Spurs, at least for a while.
Looks like getting Elson + Butler cost the Spurs Scola. Remains to be seen if that was a mistake and if so how big. Butler? Pop doesn't have a systme built around turds.
Splitter has no buyout in his contract this year.
Splitter has a $1M buyout next summer and if don't pay this buyout, his contract will be extended until 2012 by Tau.
Splitter won't sign this year with Spurs because Splitter can't give way more than $1M with his rookie contract to Tau. Tau won't let him go one year sooner to get $500K more. With Scola going in nba, it's even more unlikely : Splitter will be really needed next year by Tau because he is a good player and because he has the spanish nationality (you have quota rules in spanish league).
The good news for Spurs is that Splitter will have more offensive touch next year with Tau.
You're cool, and damn I hate remembering that Kidd plan.
I'm not really too terribly upset about Butler.
Scola's a different story in my opinion. I guess everyone here will just have to stake out their position, and let things play out. Only time will tell who's right.
Thank you!
Spurs must have a good feeling about Mahimini in order to let both their top prospect big men go, and to a division rival no less.
Maybe this is yet another positive - Splitter's opportunity to develop without Scola
So we get $$$ + 2nd Rounder + An Angry Greek + Roster spot + A better Splitter next year = Butler + Scola
First, I hate to give you a hard time but you write that as if the phones from SA don't call Argentina but the ones from France do. It's not like Luis was in France and they went to see him.
We have said all along that Scola was not coming- I surely hope this was not some new revelation to the Spurs. The Spurs tried to be hard asses with him and his agent and it did not work. He told them he would just stay in Europe and they would never get anything for him- and the Spurs flinched.
The funniest part is going to be when Spanoulis decides he wants some $$ afterall. He can just follow the Scola plan- threaten the Spurs that he will report to the team and they will have to pay him his full salary of $2M.
for a guy who keeps telling me to read, you should try it.Your point sucks. Further, we weren't talking about Butler being a 20 and 10 guy for the 2007-2008 Spurs. Try reading sometime.
This was about the Spurs trading two of their more valuable commodities for an ass raping from Houston.
The Spurs are already making money. This saves Holt 4 million next year, when the franchise has already increased in value 150 million. Total bull .
Where did anyone say we would miss the playoffs next year? Or get beat in the first round?
Seeings you are too stupid to comprehend, let me spell it out:
1. The Spurs gave a division rival with a glaring weakness a solution to said weakness.... for nothing
2. The Spurs gave up a talented young big man who had been busting his ass and doing everything the Spurs asked him including dropping 30 pounds in 8 months... for nothing.
3. The Spurs put 4 million more in Holt's pocket for next year, and as far as improving the team next year or the future, it did absolutely nothing.
Butler was 21 in NY playing for a coach in Larry Brown who notoriously favored veterans over young players. Try again
You can give them whatever you want. The last time the Spurs put this many ancient role players around TD, they got spanked by the Lakers. Don't be surprised if it happens again in 2008, only at the hands of the Mavs.
Again, try reading. I was talking about AFTER 2008. For someone who is trying to come off as knowledgeable about the business world as you are, one would think you could read a sentence and make sense of it.
for me, next year, amazingly, is the 07-08 season, when, amazingly, we have more than five players signed.
and for all your businesss a en, you seem pretty naive. all businesses are meant to make money for the owner, all cut corners and take risks they deem acceptable. this was one of those. scola never seemed liked he was coming and butler, for all the potential people say he has, has yet to do enough to get off the bench. yeah, he played for larry brown, but then he played for pop and the result seemed eerily similar. and if the idea is that neither coach likes to play rookies or young guys, then his situation wasn't changing with the spurs regardless. and the last time the spurs put a bunch of old guys around duncan, they won the le, because it was this season. as for your points, 1. maybe, but again, i'm giving a 4-time champion the benefit; 2. butler's contributions have been addressed, this is a business, as you say, and sometimes even doing what you're told doesn't keep you from getting axed; 3. good for him, he owns the thing. the spurs are not only about putting out a great team, they are about putting money in holt's pocket. to think otherwise is silly and naive. if you don't like it, you buy the team.
Wow....Spanoulis is in emo as .
So we traded a greasy dago and a Nagger for some sand nagger from greece!
And yet friggin Beno is still here.
Beno's laziness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butler's
i don't want to quibble over some semantics of when the season ends and starts. going back to my point with the losing in the first round and all that, it was to point out how little gets lost with this trade. the spurs aren't a demonstrably worse team for it, and while the trade to the rockets seems to help them out, why don't we cool our jets until things play out. our most valuable trade commodities appeared to be worth jack and squat based on the fact that no real trade has been pulled off with either until now. scola was apparently coveted by the bulls but that didn't happen; lots of teams could use a low-post player and maybe good potential guy like butler, nothing happened. i don't like the trade but it's a disappointment, not a disaster. if scola comes in and tears it up, fine, i'm wrong. but losing it before the proof is out there is just silly.Your point sucks. Further, we weren't talking about Butler being a 20 and 10 guy for the 2007-2008 Spurs. Try reading sometime.
This was about the Spurs trading two of their more valuable commodities for an ass raping from Houston.
The Spurs are already making money. This saves Holt 4 million next year, when the franchise has already increased in value 150 million. Total bull .
Where did anyone say we would miss the playoffs next year? Or get beat in the first round?
Seeings you are too stupid to comprehend, let me spell it out:
1. The Spurs gave a division rival with a glaring weakness a solution to said weakness.... for nothing
2. The Spurs gave up a talented young big man who had been busting his ass and doing everything the Spurs asked him including dropping 30 pounds in 8 months... for nothing.
3. The Spurs put 4 million more in Holt's pocket for next year, and as far as improving the team next year or the future, it did absolutely nothing.
Butler was 21 in NY playing for a coach in Larry Brown who notoriously favored veterans over young players. Try again
You can give them whatever you want. The last time the Spurs put this many ancient role players around TD, they got spanked by the Lakers. Don't be surprised if it happens again in 2008, only at the hands of the Mavs.
Again, try reading. I was talking about AFTER 2008. For someone who is trying to come off as knowledgeable about the business world as you are, one would think you could read a sentence and make sense of it.
You aren't giving me a hard time. What I was doing with that sentence was giving a time line of what was said, when it was said and how.
and now ladies and Gentleman... get ready.. Scola will play us 4 times every season to remind Buford and Pop what a big time mistake was not to bring him over when they had the chance for being Cheap and not willing to use Holt's pocket when they had to.. instead.. they played cheap and brought Oberto... just get ready.. he is one of the few guys in the planet able to stop Duncan and out him in foul trouble... know EVERY Ginobili Move and Oberto is WAYYY to slow to even try to move against him... our only hope... Tony.. ah.. did i forget to say that he will be playing beside a big time Spur killer like Mc Grady? i REALLY don;t want to face the Rockets in the Postseason.. i am already scared... and i DOUBT Luis said or did anything to threaten THE sPURS despite having all reasons to do so after so many lies told to him... Get Ready San Antonio.. this could be the worst Spurs movement ever.... they should have shipped him to the Eastern conference,,, instead.. they've just made the west stronger... i am praying for a sign in trade for him to go to the east.... start lighting candles to San Antonio... i MEAN IT...
terror of terrors, what if the spurs fo looked at this scenario and thought "no biggie." for all the fear this guy is putting into spurs fans, it looks like the spurs office isn't all that afraid, esp. considering who they sent him to.
Beno did the EXACT same thing his first year with the Spurs. The frustration with him was much more about his lack of study and preparation for games than in his physical conditioning.He got frustrated when he would ask him questions and Butler had not read the scouting reports, playbooks or watched film to answer them...
From what I understand though, Beno's problem was culture and the english terminology/slang. Butler's isn't. He was still running things wrong in summer league and not being where he's supposed to be. Butler's at ude has rubbed the Spurs the wrong way.
So T-mac, Scola and Yao in the rockets front court next year?
Man,R.C. is making him self look like an idiot.
We should´ve traded him to an eastern Conf. team.
Time for a reality check. These "cheap ass ers" have managed to bring 4 NBA les to this town in less than 10 years. Those "spend like a drunken " ers running the Knicks have "bought" how many?We just handed Houston 2/3 of their big man rotation for a second round pick and a couple of 40 oz.ers for Holt. Damn I hate those cheap ass ers running this team.
And here's an idea. Dig up about 325 million, buy the Spurs, and spend as much as you like.
It always amazes me how someone is so damn willing to spend someone elses money for their agendas.
Maybe Holt is cheap. But I don't see a lot of trophies being presented to teams that have a lot more in salary. It's kind of like I've always said. Just because it costs more doesn't mean it's any damn better.
Scola... the next Barbosa/Josh Howard.... Star in a rival team after being a player they had under their grasp... and i was thinking... he is way to good to wait an year on the bench just because it's "Pop's way"... the Spurs system is half stolen from the Argentine national team... so... not many new plays to have to "adapt to"... i'll need help to get over this...
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