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As ya totally ignore what it took to get there.
Would ya like to see just how much better RW's career has been over Cam's? Wanna see all those numbers?
just the facts... except your got ass was wrong about seattle never getting swept, which already happened this season with st. louis. Hahahahahaha ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
As ya totally ignore what it took to get there.
Would ya like to see just how much better RW's career has been over Cam's? Wanna see all those numbers?
Also beat them in Seattle this year on west coast time. Hahahahahahah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Looking for anything now ain't ya little , hahaha!!!!!!!!
Wanna see just how badly RW has out performed Cam in their careers, well?
Now think stupid, that would be 4pm back there, not 10am.
Damn you;'re dumb.
your asshurt excuse was that rw couldn't play the first half because of time zone. timezone caused RW to throw two picks in the first half and lead zero scoring drives? then why didn't he do in the 2nd half of the CAR SEA game played on the WEST COAST earlier this season? Hahahahahah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ya mean that week 6 game where Cam.
55.56 comp %
1/2 td/int
65.6......a 65.6....hahaha!!!! QB rating
While RW,,,
60.00
1/0
96.7 qb rating
That one? Stupid, the QB of that Seattle D is Bobby Wagner, ok? He didn't play that game, ok? Seattle won 59 minutes of that game, as we saw.
And carolina won 60 minutes of yesterday's game ~~~~ ~hhhahaaaaahhha gothahaha ~~~~~
Carolina starting two defensive backs they signed off the street and RW only put up 24? hhahahaaaaaaah~~~~~~~
I keep saying....
So what QB with just 4 seasons of NFL experience was more impressive than RW? So who is this? Where is he at?
Come on rookie? Tell me...
Who had more wins?
More starts?
Played in more playoff games?
Had better stats?
More NFL firsts?
So, who?
The guy steps off the plane and takes over, he never sat on a bench, never missed a start, has made the playoffs every season. Has done things never seen before, NFL firsts.
So who did it better?
Yep, he ed up early in the game, but damn..............look at what he did once he woke up....369 yards, 32 rushing yards, 3 td's, taking a 31-0 to an onside kick. That was an amazing performance, and had all of you....damn~~~~~~~ Of course ya can't admit it.
Last edited by Avante; 01-18-2016 at 03:51 PM.
Why continue to ignore?
West coast teams don't do well when they have to come east. It's a betting wrinkle well known enough to be axiomatic, but here's a thorough reminder—with some additional facts you might not have known.
Sports Insights made the infographic below using its data analysis software. It shows the old wisdom bearing out. The interesting bits are that teams do worse the farther they travel east, and also that teams coming off of wins against the spread do massively worse (owing to the books inflating the lines for teams that are coming off of wins).
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Conext little fella, it's a known fact it's hard for west coast teams in those 10am/1 pm starts. Don't be a rookie (anymore than ya are) and think that dosn't matter, ok? , ya could ctually see the Seahawks waking up as the game went on.
Translated.... I was wrong, we lost bad
31-24, is losing bad? Where?
Ok ok, Carolina is now 2-4 vs Seattle in the CN/RW era.
What a shame the Seahawks took so long to get going, that's why they need to win the division. Playing at 10am west coast time sucks.
Never had more than a 5% chance to win after early second qtr = stomped
Your got ass knew about the '10 am' start time and still picked Seattle to win, haha~~~~~~~haha
Dummy I won 100 remember, I knew it would be hard coming off a cold weather game, the travel and a 10am start. But....I also knew Seattle was the better team. So I put myself in a win win situation.
Damn you're dumb.
31-0
31-7
31-14
31-21
31-24
And it's...Dear God if you can hear me.....
RW put on a show, as we saw.
ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Give me another QB who never sat on an NFL bench, preceded to play in 10 playoff games in his first 4 seasons, winning 7 of them and a SB. Who has set NFL records while becoming the winningest QB after 4 seasons in history.
Ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~
Ok people pay attention.
When the greatest QB ever talk is well.,..talked, we will always hear Joe Montana mentioned.
So lets compare what this giant/legend/HOFer did in his first 4 seasons, ok?
Joe started 32 games.
comp %
56.5
64.5
63.7
61.6
yds
96
1495
2565
2615
td/int
1/0
15/9
19/12
17/11
QB rating
81.1
84.8
88.4
88.0
Now compare that to this.
RW has started 64 games.
comp %
64.1
63.1
another 63.1
68.1
yards
3118
3357
3275
4025
QB rating
100.0
101.2....a record two 100 ratings in first two seasons
95.0
110.1.....without BEASTMODE.
It's not even close and that's the great Joe Montana.
Come on rookies figure this out, ok? Ya look dumber and dumber and.............
Ya look at how a QB stacks up against those with the same amount of NFL experience, honest ya do. Now all these guys improve with experience, ok? For RW to do what he has done with just 4 NFL seasons is totally amazing and if you rookies knew anthing at all about football you'd know that.
Little people I've been into this stuff for a long long time, seen a ton of QB's come and go ok? I have never seen anyone doing what this guy has done with so little experience before.....ok? You guys prove how little ya understand about the game everytime ya....STRUGGLE!!!!!!!!!!......since no 4th year QB has ever done it better.
You guys ever read anything, bone up on anything having to do with pro football?
Little people, talk to me about Eddie Lebaron the 5-7 inch Dallas Cowboys QB, oh yeah.........ya can't.Remember Marlon "The Magician" Briscoe, a black QB for the Denver Broncios who once traded to the Bills became a 1000 yard receiver.......of course not, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Last edited by Avante; 01-18-2016 at 06:50 PM.
John Unitas played for 18 seasons.
At no time did he ever complete 60% of his passes, have a 3500 yard season, pass for over 32 TD's in a season and did have a 24 INT season. His highest QB rating....97.4...in a season.
RW has never had a season at less than 60%, has a 4000 yard season, a 34 td season and nowhere remotely close to a 24 INT season, his best QB rating....110.1.
So down goes another one, ha~~~~~~~~~~~
NEXT????
How about......Philip Rivers?
Nevermind, the guy did next to nothing his first two seasons and his next two aren't worth mentioning?
Down goes another one, who next?
How about......Carson Palmer?
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...P/PalmCa00.htm
Now compare that to this, first 4 seasons.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...W/WilsRu00.htm
Down goes another one, ha~~~~~~~~ Whos next?
Last edited by Avante; 01-18-2016 at 08:20 PM.
Are you Fckn kidding?
Unitas played in wide open stadiums with absolutely horrible wind, weather and field conditions. The receivers did not wear frggn gloves, footballs were not consistently dried and warmed, QBs had no gloves. Jesus H Christ!
You are the old fart here and you don't know this?
GTFOH again.
Frrgn idiot...
Stupid, they still had white cornerbacks back then, and no way shape or form the same pass rush, or speed at linebacker....ok? And, Unitas had a HOF WR/TE and the best receiving RB ever (up to that point) in Lenny Moore, another HOFer.
Little man, I saw Unitas play many times, he didn't have the arm or the legs of Russell Wilson. The game is sooooooooooo much faster today than back in the day, ok?
But, look at this, we are having to use Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Unitas, to try and find anyone on a par with RW, that right there says it all.
The only players from the 60's who could play today would be Jim Brown, Gale Sayers and Bob Hayes who would still be the fastest player in the league. None of those QB 's could hang vs these defenses.
Dude, there are HS's with an offensive line bigger than those Packer lines, ok? Totally different level of athlete today, ok? John Unitas weighed less than 200 pounds.
Gene "Big Daddy" Lipscomb was a giant back then, he weighed less than 300 pounds.
Last edited by Avante; 01-19-2016 at 10:07 AM.
ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So nobody can come up with any QB who did it better when it comes to playoff success/reg season wins/stats/NFL firsts in their first 4 seasons on a par with what RW has done?
I knew that.
These are his numbers for his career.
comp %....64.7
td/int...106/34
QB rating...101.8
These are Newtons, to put RW's number in perspective.
59.5
117/64
88.2
Notice how RW has three times as many TD's as INT's? That is remarkable. There are QB 's in the HOF where it's almost even.
As we know Tom Brady is often called the best ever, here are his career numbers.
63.6
428/150
96.4
As we can see what RW has done in his short career truly is amazing and only rookies wouldn't see that. And that's without taking into account his running.
What's funny is you rookies with yor limited amount of experience don't realize what you are really seeing. Having seen Fran Tarkenton play many times, I do. He would be the best comparison, and when Tark retired he was the all time passing leader and is still in the top 10 in all the important stats.
Terry Bradshaw*** won 4 SB's, he is in the Hall of Fame.
He is 212/210 TD/INT. And in his first 4 seasons........41/73........yep, 41/73.....hard to believe isn't it?
Then there's fellow HOFer Joe Namath.
He had 11 seasons where he threw more INT's than TD's. He had 173/220.....as hard as that is to believe.
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So slow down rookies, stop acting like a re ed monkey over a great...YOUNG...QB doing things we've never seen before....ok? As we saw he is starting to progress, as they all do, by the time he's in his 12th season his numbers will be right there with everyone else, and it should be real obvious, if ya understand the game.
*** surrounded by a HOF center, RB, both WR's and a defense with THE STEEL CURTAIN, Lambert/ Ham and the great Mel Blount, there were nine HOFers on those teams.
Last edited by Avante; 01-19-2016 at 11:33 AM.
Man, sure feels great still being in the playoffs. Got the MVP on both sides of the field, first team All-Pro QB.
Sure am glad I don't have to post sad little moral victories or excuses why we lost.
What do the record books say little fella?
Russell Wilson 7-3 in playoff games. 1-1 in Superbowls. The 2015 passing leader. 4-2 vs Cam Newton.
Cam Newton 2-2 in playoff games. No SB's. Because of the 27th ranked schedule, 15-1 MVP season. 2-4 vs RW.
Little man, always look at things from an historical perspective, ok? Like all rookies ya get too wrapped in the right now...."a"...game.
Keep in mind in his first NFC le game RW won it and went on to win the SB, lets see how close Cam comes to that, ok? Obviously he has to win if he gets there, RW won his first one.
And, RW played in two SB's in just three seasons, here's Cam in his fifth season and "might" make one.
Last edited by Avante; 01-19-2016 at 12:33 PM.
For the 4th season in a row a black QB will play in the NFC le game (probably the SB). I think that's also the case in the NCAA le game.
So we'll have...
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
Tyrod Taylor
Colin Kaepernick...?
Jameis Winston
Teddy Bridgewater
...in 2016.
Tom Brady te classic pocket passer vs the athlete at QB Cam Newton...cool~~~
Giving Belichick two weeks to prepare will spell doom for the Panthers however.
We are talking about QB stats. How in Gods name is Unitas or any QB have a high rating in those pitiful conditions. They would throw wet balls caked with mud. I'm not even defending Unitas. I'm saying passing was very difficult.
You understand EXACTLY what I am saying. The conditions and equipment were horrible for the passing game. The shoulder pads were not even made to allow players to raise their arms properly to throw or catch.
You KNOW you screwed up on this one.
Take it back.
Last edited by pgardn; 01-19-2016 at 09:34 PM.
I never screw up, ya see I do my homework.
In 1946 "Slingin' " Sammy Baugh completed 70% of his passes and he ended up with a 109.9 rating. Yep, as usual you're wrong yet again.
Let me put it like this....
I grew up watching...
Redskins...Sonnny Jurgenson HOF
Eagles...Norm Snead
Bears...Bill Wade
Steelers...Bill Nelson
Browns...Frank Ryan
Niners...John Brodie
Colts...John Unitas HOF
Packers...Bart Starr HOF
Cowboys...Don Meredith
Lions...Milt Plum
Vikings...Fran Tarkenton HOF
Cards..Charley Johnson
Rams...Roman Gabreil
Giants....Y.A. tle HOF
Oilers...George Blanda HOF....also kicked.
Bills...Jack Kemp
Patriots...Babe Parilli
Jets...Joe Namath HOF
Chiefs...Len Dawson HOF
Raiders...Darly Lamonica
Broncos...Frank Tripucka
Chargers...Tobin Rote
...and everyone who came later. The best 4 year QB I've seen.....Russell Wilson. I've never seen a young QB do the things he can do. And neither has anyone else here. They are seeing something real special but are too damn stupid to realize it.
Let's take Drew Brees for another example, trust me (ya can Google it) his first 4 seasons, not even in the same time zone as RW's.
I'm telling ya, RW can hang with anyone if talking the start of an NFL career, I can't find anyone who did it better if we take everything into consideration.
Go ahead give me the name of a guy who had a better first 4 seasons? , Tom Brady was a back up, as was Aaron Rodgers. Who came in and played in 74 games in a 4 season span, yep....nobody. Going 53-21. Going 7-3 in the playoffs.
Last edited by Avante; 01-20-2016 at 02:34 AM.
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