spurs have the worst future in their division

[Mr. Body]

Rumor is Harden and or Jaylen Brown may want to come. Trades will occur though.

Neither will happen.

[baseline bum]

Rumor is Harden and or Jaylen Brown may want to come. Trades will occur though.

Brown's not a free agent until 2024-25 so don't see that happening. Not sure why you'd want Harden's lazy ass back.

[Mr. Body]

Harden with this bunch of chuckle s would be hilarious. Like a Disney movie where they're not supposed to win more than a certain amount of games and they don't.

[djohn2oo8]

Brown's not a free agent until 2024-25 so don't see that happening. Not sure why you'd want Harden's lazy ass back.

Brown would be a trade

[djohn2oo8]

Also granted this is from one side, Granato is a pretty well connected guy in all three sports out here.

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Also granted this is from one side, Granato is a pretty well connected guy in all three sports out here.

If they're fed up, what should PATFO or Spurs fans be when we were points worse than they were? I gather Pop read the players the riot act on defense for next year. We'll see what shakes out but improvement should be expected.

I just can't believe it got this bad, and that's its been trending this way for years.

[baseline bum]

Also granted this is from one side, Granato is a pretty well connected guy in all three sports out here.

They can pursue him all they want but Boston has no reason to trade him to Houston. Yeah they're hamstrung not being able to offer max in an extension right now by the rules of the CBA but anyone they trade him to would have the same limitation and Boston could just offer Brown max next summer. Celtics aren't blowing a young contender up. That's a pipe dream for Rocket fan. It's not like the Dejounte Murray situation where the same rule made it likely they wouldn't be able to re-sign him since they're a rebuilding team that would hold no interest for Murray if he could go to a better team in free agency and still get max. Brown's not going to find a better team than the Celtics offering max in summer 2024. I ain't buying that Brown wants out just because Kendrick Perkins says so.

[KobesAchilles]

Houston has plenty of problems. The culture is one. I think Ime can fix that. They also run zero offensive sets and just jack up shots. Once again I think Ime can fix that. But a huge problem is they have no PG play at all. No person to run an offense and no person to set up others. I mean it’s actually embarrassing to watch them play bc of this fact. Harden (for all his faults) knows how to run an offense. He knows how to set up people to score. He knows how to play with a dominant big man.

Defensively Houston will still be a mess but man they would at least fix their offense. Plus they could always make trades or sign role players that play defense to fix their issues. They need a SF too. But this is all assuming that they land Wemby

If we land Wemby then we are kinda in the same boat as Houston. I would trade our first for Brown and give him the max. We also need to find a PG. But a Wemby, Sochen, Brown line up would be a good place to start with Devin and coming off the bench as our 6th man. Ironically White might be a good fit again to run PG

[scott]

Houston has plenty of problems. The culture is one. I think Ime can fix that. They also run zero offensive sets and just jack up shots. Once again I think Ime can fix that. But a huge problem is they have no PG play at all. No person to run an offense and no person to set up others. I mean it’s actually embarrassing to watch them play bc of this fact. Harden (for all his faults) knows how to run an offense. He knows how to set up people to score. He knows how to play with a dominant big man.

Defensively Houston will still be a mess but man they would at least fix their offense. Plus they could always make trades or sign role players that play defense to fix their issues. They need a SF too. But this is all assuming that they land Wemby

If we land Wemby then we are kinda in the same boat as Houston. I would trade our first for Brown and give him the max. We also need to find a PG. But a Wemby, Sochen, Brown line up would be a good place to start with Devin and coming off the bench as our 6th man. Ironically White might be a good fit again to run PG

What's a realistic asking price for Brown? There's no way a 2024 FRP isn't going to be enough.

It may be really difficult to execute in reality with Brown headed into Free Agency, but I'm here for a quick turnaround with Wemby and Jaylen if it were possible (which, even if we hit the 14%, still seems unlikely).

[KobesAchilles]

What's a realistic asking price for Brown? There's no way a 2024 FRP isn't going to be enough.

It may be really difficult to execute in reality with Brown headed into Free Agency, but I'm here for a quick turnaround with Wemby and Jaylen if it were possible (which, even if we hit the 14%, still seems unlikely).

We would trade 2 first rounders and Devin. The Spurs wouldn’t do this bc of the risk of him leaving but we could offer them 3 1st rounders and not be any worse off. Heck the dream scenario would be to trade our two 1sts plus Chi. And then have the Toronto give us a top 5 pick and same with the Hawks. The Spurs get Wemby, Brown (obviously we max him for 200 million) and two top 5 picks around them? That could be a championship. It’s a gamble though for sure which is why we wouldn’t do it. But I would like for us to take that gamble (only if we get Wemby).

[barakz21]

We would trade 2 first rounders and Devin. The Spurs wouldn’t do this bc of the risk of him leaving but we could offer them 3 1st rounders and not be any worse off. Heck the dream scenario would be to trade our two 1sts plus Chi. And then have the Toronto give us a top 5 pick and same with the Hawks. The Spurs get Wemby, Brown (obviously we max him for 200 million) and two top 5 picks around them? That could be a championship. It’s a gamble though for sure which is why we wouldn’t do it. But I would like for us to take that gamble (only if we get Wemby).

Why Devin though? I would much rather trade KJ. Devin has more upside as a scorer, plus with KJ out you get to start Wemby WITH Sochan and Zollins. If you keep KJ, then that means Sochan probably goes to the bench. Or Zollins, though I’d prefer Wemby at the 4 over the 5, at least for The first few years. You know Zollins will have his back.

Then again, we need to get Wemby first lol.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Why Devin though? I would much rather trade KJ. Devin has more upside as a scorer, plus with KJ out you get to start Wemby WITH Sochan and Zollins. If you keep KJ, then that means Sochan probably goes to the bench. Or Zollins, though I’d prefer Wemby at the 4 over the 5, at least for The first few years. You know Zollins will have his back.

Then again, we need to get Wemby first lol.

Because Brown is a star and Boston will set a high price.

[Ariel]

The Spurs shouldn't trade anything for Jaylen Brown, because:
1) He's under contract for only one more season, and his max extension would be below what he could receive in free agency (similar situation to Dejounte, Poeltl), so he'll likely test free agency anyway
2) His Bird Rights wouldn't mean much for the Spurs, since there will be more than enough cap room to sign him outright

[djohn2oo8]

[Mr. Body]

" o NBA player. Would you want to play for Udoka?"

"Um, sure."

"Great. I've got my article. Say no more."

[gambit1990]

Oh, I can imagine you'd be lost if you're missing the point of this thread. There's a post by OP, which I'm too lazy to go quote but you can easily find ITT, where he explicitly states: "this thread is about the future future". Because yes, we have discussed the immediate before.

So yes, I would not call 2 years the future at all. Two years is absolutely not what I or you might think of when people say a team is "well set up for the future", now is it?

every time i bring up exactly what i said that loser never acknowledges it:

you're missing the point of this thread. spurs could end this season with the best record in the division and my point would still stand.

this thread is about the future, future. not weeks or months. spurs need to do what OKC did and move their vets. especially instead of letting them walk for nothing.

spurs move demar, la, rudy for the right assets and i take this thread back.

[gambit1990]

i literally said "not weeks or months." this is the future i was bringing to y'all's attention.

[gambit1990]

that dumbâss three months from now: "OP said future, future he's a moron because no one know what he meant despite him saying this wasn't about weeks or months."

[The Truth #6]

Signing Ime could be a signal that HOU is done with their Process and wants to actually start improving. But that’s a significant if. Frittata seems like an impulsive narcissist so the culture around HOU could be irreparable and Ime could be doomed. But time will tell.

[rankingtear]

This was always the end of the rebuild for HOU, OKC has their pick next year outside top 4. They are too optimistic about turning it around in 1 offseason though, but they have no choice.

[Mr. Body]

Word is that Hou was willing to discuss trading Jalen Green with coaching candidates.

As a note, Jonathan Kuminga has been bad whenever he gets short minutes in the Warriors series. We need to be clear that Ignite players are not ready. They don't know how to play.

[JPB]

Word is that Hou was willing to discuss trading Jalen Green with coaching candidates.

As a note, Jonathan Kuminga has been bad whenever he gets short minutes in the Warriors series. We need to be clear that Ignite players are not ready. They don't know how to play.

And now we list all the College players who failed because they weren't ready, even though Wesley won't like that post.

[Mr. Body]

And now we list all the College players who failed because they weren't ready, even though Wesley won't like that post.

Fallacy. There are college players who have been ready. There have been no Ignite players who have been ready.

[Sugus]

every time i bring up exactly what i said that loser never acknowledges it:

I acknowledge it every single time, you buffoon. That you fail to realize that "the future, future" is not two years, but the prospects of a franchise's ability to win a championship in their given windows (for which the Rockettes and Mavs, even two years in, look terribly away from) is not my problem, or something I can fix. But don't say I don't mention it when it's all I tell you.

i literally said "not weeks or months." this is the future i was bringing to y'all's attention.

and what about "this future" is worth jacking off over? only Texas team that has anything close to future-proven is Luka in Dallas, and they find themselves in worse position to hold him there than ever before. Right now. Must I believe the Spurs have the worse future, when the draft hasn't even taken place, because you want to blow your load right now? No thanks.

[exstatic]

Signing Ime could be a signal that HOU is done with their Process and wants to actually start improving. But that’s a significant if. Frittata seems like an impulsive narcissist so the culture around HOU could be irreparable and Ime could be doomed. But time will tell.