2023 NBA Free Agency Thread - June 30 @ 5 pm CDT

[RD2191]

I swear any ST poster could run the Spurs better than that re brian wrong.

[Seventyniner]

I don't see how the Spurs could participate in a three-way POR/MIA/SA trade that sends Dame to Miami. Portland will want major assets for Dame, and the Spurs will want assets to be enticed to participate (most likely as a dumping ground for contracts). That means Miami has to give up assets, and they only have two firsts they can trade: 2028 and 2030. They can include pick swaps in 2024/2027/2029 too.

[Splits]

welp, was fun while it lasted

[mo7888]

The third team in a potential Portland/Miami trade would be a team willing to take Tyler Herro and/or Duncan Robinson.

If I were Spurs GM, there is now way I would want these players given their contracts.

I like Herro... I'm just not overjoyed with his contract...or his D...

[lefty20]

With Lopez off the board, it's time for the Spurs to with Lakers.

[DPG21920]

The third team in a potential Portland/Miami trade would be a team willing to take Tyler Herro and/or Duncan Robinson.

If I were Spurs GM, there is now way I would want these players given their contracts.

Exactly…there’s not enough compensation there to take that on unless POR would give up Sharpe or something like that which they wouldn’t in a rebuild

[Mr. Body]

welp, was fun while it lasted

Elon Musk: "I'm a certified genius, everybody, I swear."

[kobyz]

Bulls: drafted Jordan 3rd in 1984. Traded 8th pick and Olden Polynice to draft Scottie Pippen 5th in 1987. Drafted Horace Grant 10th in 1987.

Lakers: traded basically entire team for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in 1975. Drafted Magic Johnson 1st in 1979. Drafted James Worthy 1st in 1982.

Warriors: Drafted Steph Curry 7th in 2009. Drafted Klay Thompson 11th in 2011. Drafted Draymond Green 35th in 2012.

Spurs: Drafted Duncan 1st in 1997. Drafted Ginobili 57th in 1999. Drafted Parker 29th in 2001.

It seems as though maybe there’s a blueprint for building dynasties largely through the draft once you have your franchise player, and so it’s not necessary to blow one’s wad in the near term.

That has nothing to do with no using your cap space on players you like

[scott]

F'ing Twitter pulling the plug on free agency... I can't see a damn thing

For big brain master mind business reasons that no one will ever be smart enough to understand, Elmo decided to limit the number of tweets you can see a day. Unverified accounts will now only be able to see 600 posts/day.

LOL, paying 50 billion to ruin twitter. What’s the alternative? Even timvp’s Slovenian servers are working better than twitter now.

[kobyz]

The third team in a potential Portland/Miami trade would be a team willing to take Tyler Herro and/or Duncan Robinson.

If I were Spurs GM, there is now way I would want these players given their contracts.

Maybe to take Nurkic contract

[kobyz]

It's Grant Williams or bust for us by now, no?

[kxs783kms]

All of those you just named are big markets that players would want to stay in. I'm saying that if Wemby seems that you're not trying to bring in big name talents to play along aside him, I can easily see a team like LA throwing the big lights and stage pitch to him when it's time. He doesn't have the Duncan personality to me. Even though he's very mature for his age, I can see SA not being a big enough stage for him.

[DPG21920]

Maybe to take Nurkic contract

That deal is worse than Duncan Robinson deal….Spurs would need serious compensation

[td4mvp2k]

I don't see how the Spurs could participate in a three-way POR/MIA/SA trade that sends Dame to Miami. Portland will want major assets for Dame, and the Spurs will want assets to be enticed to participate (most likely as a dumping ground for contracts). That means Miami has to give up assets, and they only have two firsts they can trade: 2028 and 2030. They can include pick swaps in 2024/2027/2029 too.

portland fans are thrilled spurs were rumored in this circus

[Mr. Body]

It's Grant Williams or bust for us by now, no?

God I hope not.

[ChumpDumper]

All of those you just named are big markets that players would want to stay in. I'm saying that if Wemby seems that you're not trying to bring in big name talents to play along aside him, I can easily see a team like LA throwing the big lights and stage pitch to him when it's time. He doesn't have the Duncan personality to me. Even though he's very mature for his age, I can see SA not being a big enough stage for him.

Then he'll just leave no matter what.

[kobyz]

Would be sick if Dame wanted PHI and SA could snag Maxey

Something like:

PHI Gets: Dame Lillard

POR Gets: picks and expiring deals

Clippers Get: Harden

Spurs Get: Maxey + salaries

Why for PHI to give young Lillard for Lillard and also to throw in Harden? Are you drunk?

[timvp]

Put me in the thanks but no thanks camp regarding Lillard. Great player, it's cool the Spurs are mentioned but the timeline doesn't work. It's tempting but you can't trade for a guy who will be in steep decline when Wemby is entering the years he'll be ready to compete. Sorry.

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For big brain master mind business reasons that no one will ever be smart enough to understand, Elmo decided to limit the number of tweets you can see a day. Unverified accounts will now only be able to see 600 posts/day.

LOL, paying 50 billion to ruin twitter. What’s the alternative? Even timvp’s Slovenian servers are working better than twitter now.

[Dejounte]

[kobyz]

That deal is worse than Duncan Robinson deal….Spurs would need serious compensation

A first + the ucla guy just drafted?

[lefty20]

Put me in the thanks but no thanks camp regarding Lillard. Great player, it's cool the Spurs are mentioned but the timeline doesn't work. It's tempting but you can't trade for a guy who will be in steep decline when Wemby is entering the years he'll be ready to compete. Sorry.

But you don't understand bro... Wemby is already in talks with the Lakers about leaving.

Didn't we have a cliffjumpers thread back in the days? Gonna need to necro that .

[Trueblood]

Jordan didn’t win his first ring until the age of 28. The Bulls should/could have been more aggressive so as to not waste his earlier years.

Draymond was drafted with the 35th pick. A low pick like that is what the Spurs will continue to have if they trade for Lillard.

Same with the Spurs big 3. The Spurs don’t lose their ability to build a dynasty if they get Lillard. Period.

If the Bulls had done what you're suggesting they never would have been able to get Pippen. If the Lakes had done that they would have missed out on Magic. If GS had done that they would have missed out on Thompson. I'm not disagreeing with your initial principle. We're not a huge FA draw and we're going to have to give up something at some point and go all in, but it's premature to do that right now. Wemby's own comments to the media recently show that he has patience and is willing to wait. Maybe you should consider following his lead.

The answer to our problem is not to blow our metaphorical load to get Dame right now. If we do that we don't touch the finals, he is diminishing returns, in 4 years he's 36 and we're locked into $60 million his final year crippling our cap space, and just as Wemby is in full stride we'll be wheeling out the corpse of Dame time with no money to sign anyone else because of his money and the rookie max extension we give Wemby. That's not a position you want to be in.

The answer is to wait 2-3 years, get some quality lottery picks, use your draft capital to go after whatever disgruntled star wants out then, max out Wemby, get some quality rotation players, and run it with your dynamic duo, quality veterans, and solid lottery picks on rookie scale contracts.

[JPB]

All of those you just named are big markets that players would want to stay in. I'm saying that if Wemby seems that you're not trying to bring in big name talents to play along aside him, I can easily see a team like LA throwing the big lights and stage pitch to him when it's time. He doesn't have the Duncan personality to me. Even though he's very mature for his age, I can see SA not being a big enough stage for him.

Nevermind if he said he likes loyalty and hopes to stay very long in SA... but you guys certainly know better about him.

[Utopia]

With Lopez off the board, it's time for the Spurs to with Lakers.

why not just go after players we can actually get? Like Donte, Kelly Oubre, Christian Wood, Grant Williams, etc?