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Nembhard vs SGA
127 posessions 21 points 36%FG
Others Pacers
127 poss 75 points 49%FG
I’d say replace Sochan with CMB in a second, except then we lose our SGA stopper. Not sure I’ve seen anyone stop SGA 1 v 1 as well as Sochan and that feels like a critical need unless SGA goes and plays in China instead of the NBA. In other words, if we trade Sochan it needs to be for a solid return. Tank site has CMB at 10, and does not appear replacing Sochan with him is feasible. Roster both, and it’s two non shooters with somewhat similar skill sets. CMB can do more big man things and Sochan can do more small man things but neither can shoot.
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Nembhard vs SGA
127 posessions 21 points 36%FG
Others Pacers
127 poss 75 points 49%FG
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/641...-vj-edgecombe/The one thing that has been noted to me by league sources throughout the league is that San Antonio could move this pick if its preferred targets aren’t on the board. The Spurs could take a similar approach as last year, when they traded the No. 8 pick for draft capital down the road. One of my favorite ideas is for the Spurs to trade this pick to New Orleans for some of the Milwaukee Bucks’ draft capital over the next two years in case Antetokounmpo becomes available in a deal in the next 12 months.
That's an interesting idea. Would you guys trade that 14th pick for some of Milwaukee's draft capital? If Giannis leaves and goes to another team, could end up being good picks. Not sure I want to use them on a trade for him, though, as him being a year or two older doesn't appeal to me.
I'd be open to trading for future capital with that pick. NOP only has a couple swaps from Milwaukee, I think, though.
So that article didn't even do their research then? NO doesn't even have outright picks from Milwaukee? Scratch that idea then, but maybe for future draft capital from someone else might be interesting.
So that article didn't even do their research then? NO doesn't even have outright picks from Milwaukee? Scratch that idea then, but maybe for future draft capital from someone else might be interesting.
I think it's a 2026 swap and 2027 outright to NOP:
More favorable of MIL and NOP to NOP then other to ATL if 5-30 or MIL and NOP to NOP if both 1-4 (via NOP)
That's pretty confusing. Milwaukee doesn't own their pick, it goes to NOP, but one can go to ATL. I don't see how New Orleans can trade what is owed to Atlanta.
do not trade those picks
Probably should have traded Trae a few years ago when he could have pulled multiple picks.
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It’s pretty easy. Essengue or Beringer and last Raynaud at 14.
I would happily take the swing on Essengue at 14 but I feel he’ll be gone by then. Think 14 is too rich for the other two but what do i know.
My personal list at #14 is still Essengue/Carter/CMB/Coward.
That’s my preferred order but I’ll take whichever is available and the front office prefers.
I’m very confident at least one of those guys WILL be available at #14 so no need to move to me unless we really do want someone like Maluach who will be long gone by then.
Any compare/contrast short essays on CMB vs Demin that anyone wants to share?
Basically, I'm expecting a skilled non-shooter, but whom?
Raynaud actually has a better rebounding percentage than Sorber, strangely enough. But there's a good chance though that Sorber is gone by #14 and Raynaud is gone before #38...
I don’t know why Essengue is being brought up here tbh. He needs to be talked about only in the #2 pick thread.
My little board at #14 for Spurs is currently:
1: Carter Bryant
2: Cedric Coward
3: Noa Essengue
4: Liam McNeeley
5: Collin Murray-Boyles
I would put Noa ahead of CB, but would be happy with any of those 3. I really hope SA can find a way to trade up and get Kon though. Not sure how it would be done but I really like him a lot.
My 5 is probably (meaning, “realistically without needing to trade up”):
1. Noa
2. Carter Bryant
3. Cedric Coward
4. Noa Penda
5. Sorber
If going in with a mixture of hoping to trade up and/or just who is projected around range:
1. Kon
2. Noa
3.Carter Bryant
4. Coward
5. Penda
Dark Horses: Sorber + Flemming.
I just put a lot of value on shooting for Spurs at #14 but I agree with you that Essengue is the better prospect.
Now, as said above, it seems highly unlikely he would be there at #14. He might be if he sucks in Germany to end his season.
My favorite for this pick is Cedric Coward. He will be the best shooter available. Has the frame to put on another 20 pounds of muscle. I legit think he can play some power forward with his strength. 7’2 wingspan. His handle is limited but he is a good passer. His defense is more theoretical than an actual strength but he puts in the effort. I think he will get better at it. High IQ and a high motor. Great story. Was given an award for his contributions to his community with habitat for humanity. Was president of the student council. If you take Kon Knuppel, Tre Johnson (won’t be available), and Koby Brea (more of a 2nd round guy) out of the equation. Coward is the best shooter available. He shows flashes of Kawhi defensively and with his post offense. He shows flashes of Klay Thompson with his ability to move off ball and shoot. Not saying he will be good as those guys but o think his floor is a versatile 3 and D starter.
Love Sorber but I’m concerned about the injury. He would really bring toughness and defense. Would be the perfect backup 5 that you would hope to develop into a 4/5.
Essengue could be great but could also bust. Solid all around but he doesn’t stand out in any one area. Very much a high reward/high risk pick.
Demin could be a steal if you can convince me that he will learn to shoot and play defense. He could play a Diaw type role off the bench. Risky
I would love Nique Clifford but that’s not really Brian Wright’s style to draft a player that will turn 24 this season. He will be a Derek White Swiss Army knife type role player.
I love Derik Queen he is my favorite prospect in this draft but he can only be unlocked with the ball in his hands. He has no shot of that in San Antonio.
Khaman Maluach just feels like a bust to me. He is big but hasn’t shown the ability to use that size other than gimme lobs. Doesn’t rebound or block shots at a high rate. I think he benefited from being on a great Duke team. The learning curve is to much.
Rasheer Fleming could be in play but I’m thinking the Spurs may not want another guy with a funky looking shot. He also can’t dribble or pass so he could kill ball movement.
Liam Mcneely in theory makes sense. He was a great shooter before the injuries and role change. To me it feel like Matt Bonner though. A specialty guy. Can’t really defend. He does rebound well though. I wouldn’t hate it but feels like better options will be there.
Carter Bryant screams bust to me. Patrick Willaims. Great athlete. Not so good basketball player. How can someone with that size and athleticism not dominate and settle for so many jumpers. Why is he getting benched for bad defense over and over. Then other times when facing less gifted players he locks them down. Cody Williams looked like a better prospect than him. Let that settle in.
Asa Newell makes sense low-key because he has the best shot of developing into a 4/5. Could also be a position less player though that struggles to find a role
CMB would be lol. Spurs saying F it Wemby gonna be our only shooter we win with defense.
Maxime Raynaud is a bit of a reach but there are alot of strong connections obviously. The rebounding would be much welcome off the bench. Has the athleticism to play the 4. Does the shot translate? Not sure.
Danny Wolf is obviously in the mix because he visited San Antonio. Curious how that workout went between him and Raynaud. We know the Spurs love to make evaluations based on workouts. If the Spurs are dead set on getting a big that workout may decide who they pick. If they both sucked maybe they say screw it we will risk it with Sorber or Beringer. If one of them showed out they could be the pick. I don’t really like Wolf though because I don’t think his game translates if he can’t hit shots in the NBA. 59% free throw shooter is scary.
The wild cards are the Europeans. Are the spurs high on Penda, Saraf, Gonzalez, Avdalas or Beringer.
Gonzalez is a mystery because of his limited minutes.
Saraf is in play now because he measured at 6’6 barefoot. He can play 1-3. probably best with ball though
Noah Penda would bring some serious defense and toughness. Already built like a tank. Another non shooter though. Better chance at developing that than CMB though.
Beringer could be special. Rare movement skills at his size. Has only played basketball for 3 1/2 years. Can the Spurs actually develop him? So Raw. You would get zero contributions for 2 years. I wouldn’t hate the swing but also this a good draft so do you need to reach?
Avdalas is a player I love but he is getting no 1st round buzz at all. Can shoot and has really good athleticism. Maybe he is more of a 2nd round guy. Could be a steal
This pick could also be Durant but that seems unlikely now. lol suns if they don’t get a deal done before the draft. They will lose all leverage and may not get a 1st at all. What an epic failure that would be. I still think he ends up a Rocket.
For sure - hes someone I wouldn’t mind moving up for IF Spurs value him.
For 14 I’m at,
1. Rasheer fleming
2. Carter Bryant
3. Noa Essengue
4. Asa Newell
5. CMB
Weird group I know, but I’m really in on the idea of finding a guy who can play the 4 with wemby.
I'm still interested in Coward. Definitely a good shooter. His defense might not be as good as expected, but the athleticism is great to see. Basically, if we get a 3 or 4, they need to be open to doing the dirty work, something that Vassel hopefully rediscovered towards the end of last year. Because we don't need anymore Mamba mentality.
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