And Elson was still doing that in June... And Nazr 2 years in...
Dude,the spurs just won a championship,they´re selling the championship DVD,Spurs Jerseys and merchandising all over the word.They have the money to get better.
It´s not like they´re broke.WTF?????????
And Elson was still doing that in June... And Nazr 2 years in...
And of those three, two of them will probably, more than likely, judging from the past, sit on the bench a number of games with injuries. Can you guess which two that is?
But say they all stay healthy.....Tmac has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs and Yao is just to damn big for 82 games plus the playoffs. His ass is worn out by the time the playoffs come around.
The only way I see Rockets being a threat is if Scola is indeed a Savior. And I rather doubt that he is.
Yeah,you probably said the same when the spurs drafted Ginobili in 1999,and them brought him onboard in 2002.
Look I'm only telling you what I hear. They didn't like Butler and now he is gone. If they could have found someone that was willing to take him during the season then they would have gotten rid of him.
Oh man... Scola's summer camp will be competing against Team USA and the Brazilian all stars.... get ready man... his pleasure will be to prove wrong Pop and RC.... his fire is same as Manu's...
Scola won't be the 'savior' but he should be a quality scoring 4 who can take some of the scoring pressure off Yao and let Yao focus on defense and rebounding.
That will really make you happy won't it? What a bag. Rasho sucked ass and while Butler was a lazy turd Rasho was a scared turd. Spurs don't have room for either. Get over it.
at all the End of the World posts.
This is a bad trade for the Spurs, but the rest of the league could have gotten Scola for cheap, but passed up on it. Scola would have gotten little playing time on the Spurs, as the Spurs look to be going to a Duncan, Oberto, Bonner rotation the next few years. Part of the deal is to be nice to Scola, I guess. The Spurs typically aren't cutthroat in keeping non-rotation players from moving to other teams. Trading to the Rockets though is a bummer.
Also, it's too bad we traded the future all-star Butler, at least according to some. I think Butler is at least 5 years away from becoming a key contributor to a elite team. He needs lots of playing time, and the Spurs don't have any minutes for him.
I don't quite understand all the hate for Elson. Sure, he sucked in the playoffs, but he contributed during the regular season, and it was his first year here. Elson's 5 and 5 in his first year was certainly better than Oberto's 2 and 2 in his first year. Elson will be alright as a backup this year along with Horry and Bonner. As with other backups (such as Saint Malik), it will always be a question of whether he helps more than he hurts on a given night.
That's one thing that really kills me about this trade. It's not like it makes the Spurs considerable worse off, if at all....but it makes a division rival considerably better.
The Rockets are now a more well rounded team and they have the personnel to survive the 10-15 games that Yao and McGrady will likely miss due to various injuries. Not saying they're up there with the Spurs...but this improves their chances in the west considerably.
It was Scola or Butler from the beginning basically. Timeline was
1. Spurs traded Rasho the Impotent and Nazr the Semi-concious and felt they needed to replace them.
2. Needed center/s to replace them and used their MLE toward that end meaning they couldn't bring over Scola (and really had no need for him)
3. Scola got his feelings hurt and got mad at the Spurs, decided he'd never play for them.
4. Went after a couple of players, Mourning, Przybilla without success. Toyed with the idea of Javtokas (good news is they didn't sign him).
5. Landed Elson and on the advice of Pop's "best friend" Larry Brown picked up a lazy turd in Butler that is the an hesis of the Spurs culture.
6. Used rights to Scola to dump Butler who will soon be seen eating his way into obscurity except in the minds of a few Spurs fans where he will remain a Spurs legend.
7. Standard Spurs fans who always blow the Holt is chaep whistle will blow that whistle loud and long meanwhile Spurs having tried to sign AMir Johnson will continue their pursuit for the logical need everyone recognizes in a long 3.
8. Scola will score some points against the Spurs in a loss to Houston and some Spurs will scream and pull out the clubby.
Well, it's like taking a Kenny Thomas, Mo Taylor, or, well, Juwan Howard type 4 and giving him to the Rockets (oddly enough all 3 of those guys have spent time in Houston). Obviously it improves them over where they were, but yeah, it doesn't exactly make them serious contenders. Still, it sucks to see the Spurs willing to sell off talent to a very good team in their own division.
Accomodating Scola gives Splitter confidence the Spurs are looking at players that they've drafted desires and interests. Just in case Tau tries to spin anything the way the ploto would.
I like this trade a LOT -- Scola will also never play in the NBA and the Spurs know it! The guy is about to sign another HUGE contract to continue playing in Europe. There's no reason for him to come play for a small market team in South Texas with all the attention (long term, max contracts as well as endorsement deals) he gets as the best player in Europe. Getting rid of Butler to open up a roster spot (as well as freeing up $2mil in salary) also gives the Spurs more money for their mid-level exception!
Bravo to the front office for making another smart move.
Ian Mahinmi will likely join the team and there should be plenty of space for Tiago Splitter next season.
I just wonder if there's one more similar move in the next few months to clear some space for Marcus Williams or if the team is set on letting him play for the Toros just to get a better feel for his game...
Yeah, maybe the Spurs and Scola duped the Rockets. Yeah.
hmmm...from a negotiating standpoint Scola CAN now play Tau against the Rockets...
That would be the only thing that would make sense from this trade if Scola resigns with Tau for long term big bucks. With Splitter leaving next year Tau has a definite need for Scola in order to remain a top tier team.
Sure, if Scola spurns Houston then the Spurs will have gotten $6.1 mil in savings and cash plus a 2nd round pick for Butler. That would be like putting sugar on dog and calling it dessert, but I digress. Maybe the Spurs pulled one over on the stats geek, but I doubt it.
I'm sure Luis is loved and appreciated at Tau, but Vitoria Spain isn't exactly Houston, TX. A town of 200,000 people versus the 4th largest US city 10 times its size. Houston is the NBA's 10th largest TV market.
I know I'm in the minority, but this deal doesn't bother me.
Think if it as two separate deals put together.
1) Butler for Spani-whatever (Spurs trade Butler, who they weren't going to use, for someone who's contract they should be able to get rid of at low cost since he wants out and refuses to play, so this ends up being a roster spot + cash).
2) Scola for a second rounder (Spurs have been trying to get a first round pick with no takers, so obviously a second round pick is what they could get for him).
Neither part of that seems bad to me. Not exactly good, but not really bad either.
Certainly not a cataclysmic, end of the world, melo-dramatic worthy trade.
There's no "duping" of any team here. The Spurs get salary space, a roster spot and cash for Jackie Butler. The Spurs need those things and the Rockets could use a guy like Butler more than the Spurs can. It's an upside-swing for both teams.
You have to consider Scola and the Greek dude as non-factors. Neither will play in the NBA since Spani-whatever last walked off the court. Mark my words.
Trades like these are mostly done as moves to clear space and salaries. It's not as though either team is going to win or lose ten extra games next season because of it! This is similar to the move made to acquire Melvin Ely. He was never going to get into the rotation and the Spurs expected that.
Good move.
I just figured it out.
Spurs are clearing cap space so they can go after Jason Kidd next summer.
Houston doesn't do this move if they weren't going to bring Scola over.
no, no, no...they're gonna slowly clear space until the only three players under contract are Duncan, Manu and TP. Then, they can sign LeBron when he's available.
The Spurs will have a 4-man roster they play with every night. There will be no other player in the 12-man roster.
Now, that's a DYNASTY!
Stop trying to pretend like this is just a ho-hum trade... we got ed in the ass hard by the Rockets on this one.
what bothers is that for the same salary as Bonner, they could have gotten Scola, cause with Bonner's salary, Scola could have paid the buyout clause (the buyout was huge, 14+ mill euro, but if Tau didn't agree to a lower amount, Scola could have walked for free next year, cause it's his last year of contract).
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