Because he tells you what "his motives" were? Look at him. He went into full blown attention mode after the shooting.
No eyebrows + smirk = he will string the public along. Is this before or after he tries to puss out with an insanity plea?
He wanted smaller government, had the belief that government was ruining peoples lives, that has been established. That is a strong selling point of conservatism.
What is his motive?
I'll just wait for you to either lie or not respond.
Giffords supported the healthcare changes(Bigger Govt.) . Not too hard to make the connections that he was leaning to the right and influenced by the rights rhetoric.
You've watched far too many Fox News body language spots.
That's called an assumption.
....he didn't shoot the clerk at his local 7-11...he shot a popular liberal politician who's policy he did not agree with...an opinion shared by many Arizona Tea baggers.
Wingnuts love to play the guilt by association card unless its a right-wing domestic terrorist...
Only somebody who watches Billy O would know of those segments.
You keep bringing up irrelevant information.
He disliked Gifford because she didn't answer a question to his liking 3 years ago.
Does that sound insane? Of course it does. Why? Jared Lee Loughner is ing insane. It has become painfully obvious that Loughner is loony, but you keep trying to take this opportunity to blame politicians you don't like.
Again the no motive theory.
He could have an insane motive.
Interesting history of events on the Wikepedia page for Loughner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loughner
which is the very definition of being a wing-nut...we're going in circles here...
Haven't read every page so this may have been said already, but...
Remember a while back when that crazy guy took hostages at the Discovery Channel headquarters, saying that they weren't doing enough to save the planet, after citing Al Gore and other environmentalists as influences on his website?
And then for days the MSM was saying how the crazy rhetoric of extreme environmentalists had a direct hand in influencing him.
Oh wait that never happened.
These two are honestly trying to claim that this guy isn't insane.
Like ChumpDumper said, he could have an insane motive.
But continue to claim to know what his motive is while providing zero evidence.
But you want to ascribe a political rationale to it in order to achieve some perceived political advantage.
Will you invoke this shooting like Rudy invokes 9/11?
What definition of insane are you working with? I think he could very well be insane, or he could be a quite sane sociopath. Insane is a term with a specific meaning, and words matter.
These two are honestly trying to claim that this guy isn't insane.
Like ChumpDumper said, he could have an insane motive.
But continue to claim to know what his motive is while providing zero evidence.
Nothing in there that hasn't already been posted here. Stoking, scott?
What are your thoughts?
Admission: I can't read all 34 pages.
I'm on the fence between loon and sociopath.
http://dictionary-psychology.com/ind...ogy&t=Insanity
Even though the first sentence is a little broad, Loughner seems the profile.Or madness is the behaviour whereby a person flouts societal norms and may become a danger to himself and others. Greek tragedies and Shakespeare often refer to madness in this sense. Psychologically, it is a general, popular and legal term defining behaviour influenced by mental instability. In modern usage, it is most commonly encountered as an informal, unscientific term, or in the narrow legal context of the insanity defense. In the medical profession the term is now avoided in favour of more specific diagnoses of mental illness such as schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. When discussing mental illness in general terms, "psychopathology" is also considered a preferred descriptor.
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/01/10/j...tal-state.html
And of course, there's his beliefs that the government was controlling his mind through grammar, that he is conscious dreamer, and that there will be a new currency of something.Whatever his motive, Jared Loughner was, by all accounts, an antisocial character whom most found odd and off-putting. Wearing a hoodie even in the scorching Tucson summer, and sealing the world out with his iPod earbuds, Jared would walk the family dog around the neighborhood, oblivious to those who tried to greet him. “I’ve said ‘hi’ multiple times, but he’s ignored me and continued with whatever he’s doing,” says Anthony Woods, a 19-year-old airplane mechanic who’s lived next door to the Loughners for seven years. “He seems very depressed, he was hunched over at all times.” (By contrast, neighbors say Jared’s mother is very friendly and outgoing, although his father, Woods says, is “very aggressive, very angry all the time about petty things—like if the trash is out because the trash guys didn’t pick it up, he yells at us for it.” The Loughners couldn’t be reached for comment). In recent weeks, Jared seemed to grow even more antisocial. “I’d try to engage him in a conversation and he’d run or walk away” says Jason Johnson, 33, who lives across the street and met Jared for the first time a few weeks ago. “I saw him two days ago and I said o. He turned and walked back into the house. He had a look in his eyes like something wasn’t right,” Johnson says. “You know how it is when you talk to someone who’s mentally ill and they’re just not there? It was like he was in his own world.”
Loughner’s world was indeed a strange and unsettling place. “He was very disconnected from reality and from our class,” says Lydian Ali, a classmate of his in a poetry writing class at Pima Community College. “I remember him being incoherent when he contributed to class discussions. He would make a comment about someone's poem and none of us would know what he was talking about.” Another student, Amy Jensen, wrote on her website Saturday that she dropped out of a class at Pima in part because of Loughner’s bizarre behavior. “He was creepy. He would laugh to himself nearly all the time, even about things that weren’t funny,” Jensen wrote. “I sat behind him in that class and dropped it partially because of him. He was the kind of guy I pictured bringing a gun to class and shooting everyone.” Pima Community College suspended Loughner in September after administrators grew disturbed over one of his Internet posts, and told his parents he would need a mental health clearance if he wanted to return. Instead, Loughner dropped out the following month.
Schizotypal would be my guess, but I'd change that answer if it means he gets to plead insanity because of it. It's pretty funny that he's got a Wiki page about him, controlled by the current currency...his existence is uncons utional!
I definitely think he could be a nut. But he could still just be a guy so bent on F'n with people as his other old friend was quoted as saying. That wouldn't make him insane, clinically (but colloquially we'd all call him crazy).
Wikipedia is an amazing beast. I enjoy reading the talk pages every now and the and the policing process. The page has been frequently attacked by folks labeling him with one political ideology or another (not unlike this thread) but they do an amazing job of keeping it clean.
I think that's because they've been raked over the coals for allowing it to become like Spurstalk.com in its earlier days.
They want to be respectable. They want teacher to quit rolling their eyes when a student cites Wikipedia.
We'd still roll our eyes. Wikipedia is not a source, as it contains no original research. As it has been forever, however, everything is sourced. A student too lazy to scroll to the bottom of the page to get the real source deserves to fail.
Edit: and a teacher/professor who doesn't know this doesn't deserve a job
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