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    It wasn't for oil.
    You Lie

    BigOil didn't get the production contracts it wanted, and didn't get the oil it wanted, but the dubya/ head/BigOil objective in Iraq the oil.

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    You Lie

    BigOil didn't get the production contracts it wanted, and didn't get the oil it wanted, but the dubya/ head/BigOil objective in Iraq the oil.
    Why do you have to pollute every thread with oil?

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    OP must feel so stupid about this thread. LED bulbs are great and cheap.

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    OP must feel so stupid about this thread. LED bulbs are great and cheap.
    Oh I doubt it. The timelines initially posted about banning incandescent make them expensive. The best price I've seen for a 100 watt equivalent LED that fits in the bulb A19 form factor is $40, and it would be $50 or more a year ago. Most 100 watt equivalents are the A21 size, and will not fit in many application. These are still $20.

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    OP must feel so stupid about this thread. LED bulbs are great and cheap.
    A few highlights from the linked material in the OP:

    To encourage energy efficiency, Congress passed a law in 2007 mandating that bulbs producing 100 watts worth of light meet certain efficiency goals, starting in 2012.
    At $40 now, they would have definitely been $50 or more in 2012. When the mandate took effect.

    Creating good alternatives to the light bulb has been more difficult than expected, especially for the very bright 100-watt bulbs. Part of the problem is that these new bulbs have to fit into lamps and ceiling fixtures designed for older technology.
    Before the 100-watters, there will be 75-watters on the shelves this year. Osram Sylvania will be selling them at Lowe's starting in July. Royal Philips Electronics NV, the world's biggest lighting maker, will have them in stores late this year for $40 to $45.
    $75 watters are now available in the A19 size for about $12.

    To stimulate LED development, the federal government has ins uted a $10 million "L Prize" for an energy-efficient replacement for the 60-watt bulb. Philips is so far the only entrant in testing, and Eftekhar expects the company to win it soon. But Lighting Sciences Group plans its own entry, which it will demonstrate at the trade show.

    Philips has been selling a 60-watt-equivalent bulb at Home Depot since December that's quite similar to the one submitted to the contest. But it's slightly dimmer, consumes 2 watts too much power and costs $40, whereas the L Prize target is $22. Sylvania sells a similar LED bulb at Lowe's, also for $40.
    Phillips ended up winning this L-Prize, but weeks later, the Cree 60 watt equivalent you see on the shelves now are superior.

    However, LED prices are coming down quickly. The DoE expects a 60-watt equivalent LED bulb to cost $10 by 2015, putting them within striking range of the price of a compact fluorescent bulb.
    Cree 40 and 60 watt $6.97 at Home Depot now. They originally had them for $4.97 as a "new low price," but it appears they cannot maintain that price point for now, or decided they can make that extra $3 profit since nobody else is was good at that price.

    Here is the only worth while watt 100 equivalent I know of that fits an application restricted to the A19 size:



    They cost $39.99 for 1600 lumens and use 22.5 watts. Available in cool white, warm while, and daylight. The daylight puts out 1640 lumens.

    I have found others when searching for the 100 watt equivalent size and A19, but they all have had A21 when you look at their specs.

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    Same question as for "Internet of All-My-Stuff" (like my entry door locks and HVAC). Hackable?

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    one would think so

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    I hate mesh networks. Nothing but problems when you have just one finicky device.

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    Now this is cool:



    They are doing a kickstarter camapaign again for it.

    After this next payday, I'm taking the $400 option:

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...dims-without-a
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 07-14-2014 at 02:38 PM.

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    Fake

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    No it isn't.

    I already have their 12 watt/100 watt equivalent/ 1600 lumen bulb.

    It's great!

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    No it isn't.

    I already have their 12 watt/100 watt equivalent/ 1600 lumen bulb.

    It's great!
    Watt you talkin' bout Willis?
    "lumen"...haha

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    Watt you talkin' bout Willis?
    "lumen"...haha
    Please...

    Get an education. School is free you know.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_%28unit%29

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    Please...

    Get an education. School is free you know.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_%28unit%29
    Wikipedia...where the uneducated go to get trolled...

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    Wikipedia...where the uneducated go to get trolled...
    No, I thought it would be at a low enough level for you to comprehend.

    My bad.

    I'm done with you.

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    No, I thought it would be at a low enough level for you to comprehend.

    My bad.

    I'm done with you.
    That's what I thought. Enjoy your "Nanoleaf Bloom".
    LMAO. Hope it has a high lumen rating.

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    IKEA today had 40W LED bulbs in bright white frosted bulbs, standard base, for $4.99.

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    IKEA today had 40W LED bulbs in bright white frosted bulbs, standard base, for $4.99.
    The ones that use 6 watts and have 400 lumen output?

    The Cree 40 watt equivalents are a bit more at $6.97 at Home depot, but they output 450 lumens and use 6 watts.

    Do you want to support Sweden, or the USA?

    Cree = USA.

    IKEA LEDARE = Sweden.

    The Crees also have 330 degrees of light. I doubt the LEDARE's do. They look like they have about 300 degrees of coverage.





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    I've tried a great deal of different LED bulbs. In my view, Cree is the winner, hands down.


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    Additional information for the light bulb enthusiasts. Instant On using Acandescent technology.

    http://finallybulbs.co
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    Additional information for the light bulb enthusiasts. Instant On using Acandescent technology.

    http://finallybulbs.co
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    See post 837.

    Finally Ligting facts:



    The Cree 60 watt equivalents are available now at $6.97.

    The Cree's DO NOT CONTAIN MERCURY

    The Crees use 9.5 watts vs. 14.5 watts.

    Cree lighting facts:

    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 07-18-2014 at 05:37 PM.

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    so i dont want to read 29 pages lol. have any of you invested in these types of bulbs and have you noticed any differences on your light bill?

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    so I dont want to read 29 pages lol. have any of you invested in these types of bulbs and have you noticed any differences on your light bill?
    I won't see a recognizable difference in my lighting bill. I've already gone to CFL so many years ago. The difference lighting makes will be too tine for me to see. I simply like the life and efficiency.

    For anyone living in hotter areas, If I use a light bulb that produces 800 lumens at 9.5 watts vs. 14.5 watts, I am producing the same light with 5 watts less of heating. The CFL's use somewhere arounf 13 watts for the 800 lumen range, but incandescent uses 60 watts.

    Doesn't much matter for the winter when I'm heating the place anyway, but in the summer, it's more my air conditioner has to work. Besides, I prefer the place being well lighted, As I typing this, I have two 100 watt equivalent Cree's overhead that use 36 watts vs. 200 watts of incandescent.

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