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Do you always post drunk, or is English your third language?
dm thinks his got the keys to car, his just another loud mouth man....
Do you always post drunk, or is English your third language?
Lol dumbass Spur fans wanting to trade DJ for a broken down Conley. Never fails.
How is it fake?
Will Dejounte ever reach his potential now?
Similar sized though even more raw Dante Exum stagnated hard and has had his career trajectory seriously shifted after his ACL tear.
People generally heal fully from ACLs but a year of lost development isn’t ideal. This isn’t an Achilles.
Are we sure Exum was ever good at basketball?
Are we sure Dejounte is good at basketball? He still can't shoot outside of an open gym. His ability to run the offense on a consistent basis has also come into question. If he loses lateral quickness from the ACL injury, will he lose his ability to be an elite defender?
why not compared him to livingston?
I think Dante missed 2 seasons, one to the ACL tear, the other to something else (shoulder), he was very raw and young to begin with his rook season. I think in his case, the injuries stunted his development really hard, but he re a lost 2 years. Lavine took 2 seasons to return to his old self though. Although he played 20+ games last season, he wasn't at 100%, in terms of confidence and ability.
I think Dejounte will be able to recover his athleticism but this year was key for his development, specially offensively. The loss of playing time at an age he should still be improving really is unpredictable in terms of him stagnating or no. Next season will be his 4th in the league and by then he will want to get paid
The guy also made the All-Defensive team last year. If your only basis for "good at basketball" is shooting then you're probably the kind of guy who gets thrilled with Steve Novak. Maybe Jeff Ledbetter would fit your description of a "good basketball player". The guy acknowledged shooting was a shortcoming and tried to work on it this summer. Unfortunate everyone won't see the results of that work for an extended amount of time, but the guy deserves the benefit of the doubt. Dumb sports fans are aplenty
people reject the evidence they don't want to accept. They're disagreeable with how things have been run by the Spurs' front office because they've been extremely spoiled the past few years. The team is just three games into the season and most of the people here have prematurely jumped off the cliff because their fragile basketball feelings are experiencing what 29 other teams' fans have felt the past few years. It is what it is.
Exum was more raw, but at the time of their ACL injuries, Dejounte had only played about 250 more NBA minutes and 15 more NBA starts.I think Dante missed 2 seasons, one to the ACL tear, the other to something else (shoulder), he was very raw and young to begin with his rook season. I think in his case, the injuries stunted his development really hard, but he re a lost 2 years. Lavine took 2 seasons to return to his old self though. Although he played 20+ games last season, he wasn't at 100%, in terms of confidence and ability.
I think Dejounte will be able to recover his athleticism but this year was key for his development, specially offensively. The loss of playing time at an age he should still be improving really is unpredictable in terms of him stagnating or no. Next season will be his 4th in the league and by then he will want to get paid
Exum is still quite athletic, but the skills fell behind.
You have a good point. there's no way of knowing if Exum would be a better player today if he hadn't lost what really was a couple of years at a time he was still developing. I really don't know. I think that's the worse aspect of this injury, I expected Dejounte to be significantly better offensively, even if progress wasn't linear (rarely is, but over the length of the season one sees a pattern)... We will never know. Next season it's already contract year and as a fan all I can only hope for is the MIP campaign I thought I'd see this season.
Raw. You said it. Dante Exum was never that good to begin with.
Conley... Smh!
Circling back to the topic at hand, this is what's different with Fathead. DJ might never reach his potential due to the injury (hope not), but you know he had the physical tools and work ethic to reach a higher ceiling, at least pre-injury.
Fathead, on the other hand, was always handicapped from day 1. He might be an extremely hard worker, but he could never overcome the lack of physical tools on an extremely athletic league.
I've seen people argue that, well, Parker, Manu or Vince Carter could still be effective at age 40 or whatever, despite the diminished physical state, but the reality is that their production dropped considerably at that point, and teams consider those players more on the mentoring role than actual difference makers.
I already forgot him with Dante’s 12 boards and defense on James. What Spurs need is a 3nD G/SF. I cringe at the thought of Forbes/Mills stopping Harden
Dejounte would have been more impactful than Conley this season.
Ill keep Dejounte, the 1st, and let Pau walk this summer over trading for Conley.
we do need a 3&D, but with the way the refs favor Harden there will be hardly anyone that will be able to stop him without a foul being called. its ridiculous.I already forgot him with Dante’s 12 boards and defense on James. What Spurs need is a 3nD G/SF. I cringe at the thought of Forbes/Mills stopping Harden
Not sure I agree with the first part. Murray and DeRozan would have been a pretty awkward fit in the backcourt. It would basically force Pop to start a 3-and-no-D player at SF like Beli or Bertans. Unless you mean moving DeRozan to SF, Murray at SG, and Mills or Forbes at PG.
DeRozan/Conley looks similar to DeRozan/Lowry on paper.
I agree with the second part. I wouldn't give up Murray. It's also difficult to give up Pau and not get a big in return, especially given how bad Poeltl has looked so far.
I wouldn’t give out our young for Conley. However, Murray seems an odd fit with the 1st unit unless he proves he can knockdown those 3’s. LW4 seems a better fit. Demar as the combo guard and White as the backup PG. That leaves Murray as the odd ball. Any thoughts of packaging him and 1st to land a Davis or Giannis?
Anthony Davis and Giannis for a package based on Dejounte Murray? Your going to have to give up DeRozan, Walker, and. 1st rounder as well.
This. Dejounte was chosen as one of the top four defensive guards in the league last year. That’s way more than Exum’s ever come close to sniffing.
I don't know about other Grizzlies fans, but I thought this was a terrible signing from the beginning and never thought he was that good.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...97#post9464097
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...71#post9464171
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...79#post9466379
So far I have yet to be proven wrong and I doubt I ever will be.
Thanks grizzlies.
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