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    My fear is that they'll have someone give Finley a hard foul if he drives inside. I don't mean a hard foul in like preventing him from getting the basket but in preventing him from getting up period.

    I remember when DJ Mbenga was suspended for the hard foul he gave Lebron James in one of the last regular season meetings. AJ's comments were that he told him to deliver hard fouls but how disappointed he was that the league suspended him like that. Especially since he encouraged it.

    I was checking out the dallas-mavs.com board and some are calling for fans to burn Fin's jersey at the AAC. Or anything Fin related. What a bunch of hypocrits over there too. There blaming Finley for bringing it to the leagues attention but Cuban does the same damn thing. He not only puts tapes together, he makes phone calls and sends emails, and whines about things in his blog.



    Here's a good recap from the Jet show today.

    Terry-- I didnt do it. My agent and others are looking for all the footage, etc to get me cleared. (Announcement was made after many players had left practice but everyone called him. He's told everyone). Even though Im not guilty Im sorry.

    Cuban- dont apologize. we're behind you.

    Terry-- I'm not going to say who ratted on me, but there are only two parties here. Mavs (my boys) are going to win it in 6 games

    announcer-- the fans are behind you, lets see you later

    piped in sounds-- wooo! I love you!

    Cuban:

    what a joke. I looked over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Ginobli on top of Terry and Finley jumps on Terry. Terry is on his back and reacts-- its not a roundhouse, whatever

    MICHAEL FINLEY calls it in. League looks. League isnt consistent. (cuban backsteps). Finley initated it, through the Spurs etc.

    we've seen examples of created contact in reaction. Terry was lying on his back. Maybe Terry punches like a girl. When you have 6 inches to move. Terry is grimmacing the whole time. IT could have been because he was in pain.

    Watch it in real time-- whatever. Ginobli is fighting, Finley puts two hands on the ball and Finley drops his hip into Terry. Ginobli looks at the whole thing and doesnt react whatsoever.

    Finley acts like a baby. Fin feels like something must have happened. Fin took acting lessons.

    Joe Derosa was RIGHT THERE and saw THE ENTIRE THING.

    huge difference between reacting and flailing and throwing a punch. Terry didnt get his moneys worth.

    (Announcer corrects-- Joe Forte, asks if there should have been a technical or a flagrant...whatever)

    Cuban: if his hand was open, it would have been nothing. There was no message sent by what Terry did-- not a punch.

    Ginobli hip checks Terry to knock Terry down period. (foul?)

    No one thought to suspend Kaman after getting attacked. No one screamed to suspend Ginobli in the Artest case.

    Cuban: they'll report some things, but ONLY Malone/Nash thing was enough to freak out about.

    SHAME ON THE LEAGUE if they are punishing Terry for Cuban.

    league should grow some balls.

    We'll put the smack down on san Antone anyways.

    EVERY MAV thinks that they need to send a message. They all want to win. AJ knows that sh@t happens-- as if Terry had been injured.

    THIS mavs team has that spirit to win. We're focused. We dont need Nick Van Exel to tell them "fe'm". We can freaking play.

    Its going to be FREAKING CRAZY at the AAC tomorrow. All fans believe

    There isnt any more kidding-- Boo finley. It isnt about Finley. We're a team. Dallas Mavs, Dallas fans, everyone are here together and Fin isnt part of it. Its US vs. THEM

    Tyler: What was Terry supposed to do? He sacrficed his body.

    Cuban: Terry wasnt looking for contact. He just reacted naturally.

    Tyler: this sucks. We're going to be loud tomorrow.

    Adrian: how do you feel about Peter Holt refusing tickets to Dallas residents?

    Cuban: I hate Spurs. They are sh@theads. they wont let us broadcast Dallas games in San Antone. They are afraid that the fans arent that devoted.

    some guy: Im curious what is up with Reggie Evans getting a fine and Terry gets suspended in the playoffs. I'm willing to advertise your opinion, Cuban

    Cuban: its unbelievable. I dont understand

    David: do you think Fin has animosity against the Mavs because of how he left.

    Cuban: everyone should have animosity against someone paying them 15 million dollars. What a luxury (poke?)

    announcer: what about the AAC being too loud?
    cuban: the fans were just so amazing. Stern just hadnt been to an arena that was that excited. We'll deal with it seperately. We have audio guys there measuring the audio. We havent heard from Stern again about arena noise

    woman: was your spotty background with Stern related to the suspension

    cuban: it would be REALLY messed up if true. So bad, I dont even want to think about it.

    guy: what are we doing to keep Terry here?

    cuban: we love him and are doing everything we can to keep him here.

    guy: what about putting griffin on duncan?

    cuban: Duncan will just go over griff and grab the board.

    tom: when we beat San Antone, who do you want to play

    Cuban: cleveland because HCA, but lets talk later

    guy: duncan got all the calls the other night during his worst year.

    cuban: barkley doesnt know sh@t. He doesnt matter.

    annoncer: why did it take so long to declare this?

    cuban: it took a long time-- they looked at all the views. It took a while to convince themselves that there was soemthing there.

    Announcer: what about Avery?

    cuban: AJ, the general is the best leader in the league. he's proven himself. Cuban couldnt trust him more. He's defined a culture-- no underdog mentality, hard work, mentality. Its not about opinion. AJ is a special person.

    I love owning a team, watching games, being there, being around fans, but I HATE dealing with the NBA

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    "You punch someone its with intention. If that was a punch, he didn't get his money's worth"



    Wanna take a guess who said that?

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    Hey loveforthegame,

    Is that an official transcript of the interview? I remember him talking about Austin when he referred to showing games in the Spurs territory.

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    "You punch someone its with intention. If that was a punch, he didn't get his money's worth"



    Wanna take a guess who said that?
    Rocky's trainer Mic?

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    Nope, that would be Mark Cuban.

    Just saw him say it on an interview on ESPNEWS

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    Hey loveforthegame,

    Is that an official transcript of the interview? I remember him talking about Austin when he referred to showing games in the Spurs territory.
    Nope, it's not official. It's from one of the Dallas posters on Dallas-mavs.com that listened to the show and was typing the stuff as they listened.

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    Hey loveforthegame,

    Is that an official transcript of the interview? I remember him talking about Austin when he referred to showing games in the Spurs territory.

    You'd think as a business man he'd understand that that is bad for business. But I guess he only plays the business card wheh it's good for him.

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    glad it happened, he puched mike in the family jewels. go spurs go

    what a punk

    i believe, whos with me?

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    You'd think as a business man he'd understand that that is bad for business. But I guess he only plays the business card wheh it's good for him.
    Yeah, you learn a lot about a man when you become his enemy.

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    Poor mavericks

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    Hansen Unplugged: The Jason Terry incident

    12:12 AM CDT on Friday, May 19, 2006
    By DALE HANSEN / WFAA-TV


    http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dw....562ccef3.html

    WFAA-TV When the Mavericks and Spurs meet for Game 6 in Dallas Friday night, the Mavericks will play without guard Jason Terry.

    The NBA is suspending Terry for Friday's game for what he did Wednesday night in San Antonio.

    There was a scramble for a loose ball, and the league says Terry tried to hit another one.

    We have a good shot of this on video. Terry's on the bottom; Spurs guard Michael Finley on top. An arm goes up and Finley is punched below the belt.

    There's no question Terry did it, but why?

    "The only thing I remember is getting up with that ball in my hands," Terry told ESPN Radio 103.3. "I was not letting go of that ball for anything. His body was on top of mine; Ginobili was on top of me; so it wasn't a good situation, but something that I wouldn't have done and I surely didn't do it intentionally, if it did happen."

    Mavericks owner Mark Cuban defended Terry. "It's not like he's throwing a punch, punch, punch. He's just reacting, and they suspend him," Cuban said, adding that the American Airlines Center crowd Friday night will propel his team to the Western Conference finals—with or without Jason Terry.

    "Would we rather have Jason there? Of course," Cuban said. "There's not going to be one fan in there that doesn't believe that we can kick their butt all the way back to that ugly-ass, muddy-watered thing they call a Riverwalk."

    Cuban obviously thinks there should be a fine and not a suspension, because fines don't mean anything to the billionaire.

    What should the fine be for punching a guy ... there?

    The suspension doesn't bother me as much as what Terry did. And what he did isn't what bothers me about Terry.

    Losing his composure, getting suspended and hurting his team—that should bother everybody.

    I think Jason Terry is a good man, and obviously a very good player.

    But it does seem a little strange that in a league where almost everybody from top to bottom says that players should decide the games—not the officials—it's an NBA official who might decide Game 6, and maybe the series.

    Would the league have suspended Tim Duncan if he did the same thing? I don't know, but I know this:

    If there's a scramble for a loose ball and you're a player, you have to know you can only grab one.

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    Would the league have suspended Tim Duncan if he did the same thing?
    Yes they would have, least ye forget this is the guy that was suspended for one game for inadvertently making contact with an official...

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    Yeah whatever you do please let's just leave it at that, I don't want to see any pictures taken after that

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    how can mavs fans argue against that?

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    how can mavs fans argue against that?
    Maybe they are like Cuban and think hitting someone with a closed fist isn't necessarily a punch

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    how can mavs fans argue against that?

    They're dumbasses?

    They think that block by Bowen was a foul too...

    That was like the cleanest sweetest most gorgeous perimeter block in NBA history...they think it's a foul because Bruce is touching Dirk's hand.

    Basically Cuban is a homer fan, that's actually one of his more endearing qualities...but the dumbass Mavsfans take everything he says as the gospel...

    That Mother er is a about as objective about the Mavs as TimVP in an AJ thread...

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    Maybe they are like Cuban and think hitting someone with a closed fist isn't necessarily a punch
    It's not a punch, it's a reaction.

    If you want to know why it can't be both a reaction and a punch, you'll have to ask Mark Cuban. Apparently he's operating on a much higher plane of logic, that us mortals can't hope to reach.

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    It's not a punch, it's a reaction.

    If you want to know why it can't be both a reaction and a punch, you'll have to ask Mark Cuban. Apparently he's operating on a much higher plane of logic, that us mortals can't hope to reach.
    Yeah I'll have to ask him next time he's here visiting that "ugly-ass, muddy-watered thing they call a Riverwalk."

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    Maybe they are like Cuban and think hitting someone with a closed fist isn't necessarily a punch
    damn looking at the past pages i cant believe i defended them.

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    Sparky owned this shank person about as much as you can own someone via the internets.

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    Cuban is a joke...he wanted Horry suspended for almost biting Smackhouse but es about this? He needs a new hobby.

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    Cuban is a joke...he wanted Horry suspended for almost biting Smackhouse but es about this? He needs a new hobby.
    It wasn't even that he almost bit him, he was playing around is the thing...

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    spurs in 7

    *goes to bed*

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    I know this does not for a moment mean that we will win game 6 automatically.

    But I think that some people are taking the most negative view possible of the suspension. And it does not seem that their position makes sense. If they win without Terry, that does not mean that they would have lost with him. It is in Dallas and it is more than possible that despite the loss of Terry they still fin a way to get the W. But in my view, it will be despite (and not because of ) his absence.

    Here's another way to think about it if we want to take this viewpoint to its logical conclusion.

    Every team's second best player should go out punch somebody in the groin before some important game. That way that player could get suspended. Therefore, the team would be motivated (ie with a chip on their shoulder). Hence, their chances of winning would be better.

    Does anybody really believe that???

    That is the logical conclusion of the view of those people here who are saying that losing Terry for a game is somehow an advantage for Dallas.

    If you don't like the logical conclusion, then to be consistent you must change your position.


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