Luis Scola & Jackie Butler GONE?!

[ArgSpursFan]

Houston doesn't do this move if they weren't going to bring Scola over.

That´s for damn sure.

[CosmicCowboy]

That´s for damn sure.

Scola's agent doesn't exactly seem to be in the same class as Lon Babby. Do you really think he wouldn't blow some smoke up the Rockets ass if he thought it strengthened his negotiating position? The highest bidder for the longest term will get Scola and don't be surprised if it's Tau.

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Better Scola goes to the Rockets for Splitter's development next year.

[ArgSpursFan]

Scola's agent doesn't exactly seem to be in the same class as Lon Babby. Do you really think he wouldn't blow some smoke up the Rockets ass if he thought it strengthened his negotiating position? The highest bidder for the longest term will get Scola and don't be surprised if it's Tau.

it has nothing to do with agents,or Tau.
Houston needs a scoring PF to help Yao,+ Howard is already what?35,36????
They want Scola,and Butler can be usefull for them too.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

it has nothing to do with agents,or Tau.
Houston needs a scoring PF to help Yao,+ Howard is already what?35,36????
They want Scola,and Butler can be usefull for them too.

Howard's in Minnesota.

[rascal]

This place has over valued Scola and Butler just is not a very good nba player.


The spurs felt that Scola and Butler will likely never amount to anything.
Why else would they trade them to a rival?

The Spurs were not going to bring Scola over and he was never going to play on the spurs so the spurs decided just to dump both of them.

I do think they could have gotten more back for these guys packaged together. Young bigs have some value and the spurs basically got almost nothing back in the deal.

I thought NJ had some interest in Butler.

There could also be another move soon that makes this deal make more sense.

[Sam]

what bothers is that for the same salary as Bonner, they could have gotten Scola, cause with Bonner's salary, Scola could have paid the buyout clause (the buyout was huge, 14+ mill euro, but if Tau didn't agree to a lower amount, Scola could have walked for free next year, cause it's his last year of contract).

Scola didn't want to play for us. Bonner doesn't play into this at all.

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Hey Sam any word on if Mahinmi has any potential at all?

[Sam]

Hey Sam any word on if Mahinmi has any potential at all?

I've only seen him play once so I wouldn't be able to critique him at all. I know that before the playoffs the Spurs wanted him over here for summer league and were hoping to sign him. But with his injury the rumors I'm hearing is that he goes back to Europe for another year. Seems like the Spurs and Bryan Colangelo are the ones using Europe as the minor leagues.

[ploto]

Accomodating Scola gives Splitter confidence the Spurs are looking at players that they've drafted desires and interests.

Spurs are 2 years too late for that. Players in Europe already know how the Spurs treated Scola.

[ploto]

Look I'm only telling you what I hear. They didn't like Butler and now he is gone. If they could have found someone that was willing to take him during the season then they would have gotten rid of him.

You're not telling ME anything that I don't already know. I just don't buy the inconsistent excuses that get spewed out from the Spurs summer after summer.

[Mr. Body]

Spurs are 2 years too late for that. Players in Europe already know how the Spurs treated Scola.

I've been saying this for years.

[Mr. Body]

Scola didn't want to play for us. Bonner doesn't play into this at all.

Signing Bonner cost us Scola and Butler.

[Sam]

You're not telling ME anything that I don't already know. I just don't buy the inconsistent excuses that get spewed out from the Spurs summer after summer.

All I know is from everything I've heard it hasn't been inconsistent at all, but what they put out in the media by playing nicey nice may be inconsistent. Butler's handwriting has been on the wall a long time. If James White doesn't straighten up then his is too.

[Sam]

Signing Bonner cost us Scola and Butler.

Not sure how you can say that. Scola didn't want to play for us so they were basically forced into a trade. Bonner and Butler don't even play the same position.

Plus I can tell you all year including end of the year evals, Bonner was rated higher than both.

[picnroll]

Spurs are 2 years too late for that. Players in Europe already know how the Spurs treated Scola.

Yeah I guess that's why the Greek kid was so disappointed when he heard the Spurs drafted him and overjoyed to find out he was traded to the Raptors.

Mensa Society. RIIIGHHTTTT.

[vanvannen]

Not sure how you can say that. Scola didn't want to play for us so they were basically forced into a trade. Bonner and Butler don't even play the same position.

Plus I can tell you all year including end of the year evals, Bonner was rated higher than both.

You are wrong. Scola wanted desperately to play for the Spurs. He just got screwed by a ty deal.

[E20]

I just reviewed this trade over again and this ing sucks diareah up the . WE GOT NOTHING. We traded two assests FOR NOTHING, at least trade for some oxygen or a bonzai tree, instead WE GOT NOTHING, except a roster spot, but I don't think that was worth it to trade for NOTHING. GOD.............Key word here is NOTHING.

Holt should use that 4 million dollars and distribute to all the members at ST for our frustrations and agony.

[samikeyp]

Players in Europe already know how the Spurs treated Scola.

Don't they also know how the Spurs treated Parker and Ginobili?

[objective]

Facts or near facts:
1. 28 teams GMS, coaches, assistant coaches ballboys, etc. saw so little in Butler and Scola to make a trivial offer of a few bucks and a late second rounder.

lol

29 NBA GMs, Coaches, assistant Coaches, ballboys all saw so little in Walter Herrmann that he had to accept a deal on the cheap from a terrible expansion team that had 2 'faces of the franchise' ahead of him on the depth chart and he knew he'd be riding the bench.

Pretty weird for an Argentine and former ACB MVP to be so undervalued.

Gee, that couldn't happen again!

[objective]

No...the same footage ya'll have seen. I don't see how it be argued that either of them are a better fit for this team skil set wise than Ian.

Ian is an athletic rebounder and shotblocker type who hustles his butt off...at worst, he's going to be a big version of Malik.

for being such an athletic shotblocker, it's funny how Mahinmi's euroleague blocks per 40minutes were the same as . . . Luis Scola in 2007.

In 2006 actually Scola's bp40 were much better, close to twice as good.

[objective]

lol um no...we got brent for less money than jack got in atl....so ur wrong

lol, you do know that after turning down the Spurs lowball of 3/9 he had to sign in Atlanta for only $1 million don't you?

If the Spurs had just offered him a Barry type deal in 03, he'd still be a Spur.

Or in jail.

[whottt]

for being such an athletic shotblocker, it's funny how Mahinmi's euroleague blocks per 40minutes were the same as . . . Luis Scola in 2007.

In 2006 actually Scola's bp40 were much better, close to twice as good.

Ok so objective says Mahinimi is about the same caliber of shotblocker as Scola...

Noted and remembered.

[whottt]

lol, you do know that after turning down the Spurs lowball of 3/9 he had to sign in Atlanta for only $1 million don't you?

If the Spurs had just offered him a Barry type deal in 03, he'd still be a Spur.

Or in jail.

And we likely would not have Manu Ginobili now...




You aren't impressing me with your insight objective...

[objective]

For being such a poor shotblocker, it's weird how he and Mahinmi have the same stats.

huh, how would you explain it?

MAYBE, just maybe, it takes more than athleticism and leaping skills and long arms to be a good shotblocker.

Just look at Elson.