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I would do that trade.
So let me get this straight. You know the Spurs are one piece away from taking it all this year, and you don't think Pop knows that? Seriously...they're going to do whatever they think they need to do to win a ring, and that includes making a big trade...if they have to.
I would do that trade.
Yes, IMHO they are one piece away, and
I'm pretty sure Pop knows that,
and that they are doing everything they think can to change this.
ok...I can appreciate that.
These two pipe dream threads really need to die already...
Why? If you say so...I just thought this was a forum for fans...
Is it really hurting you that much?
Like a lot of people have already mentioned they are pipe dreams, but I still keep coming in here and posting.
I guess it's the Gasol trade that has me not dismissing it totally.
That and the fact that deep down we want to see how far this thread can actually go until the trade dealine or until one or both are traded.Like a lot of people have already mentioned they are pipe dreams, but I still keep coming in here and posting
I guess it's the Gasol trade that has me not dismissing it totally.
61 hours.
not coming fast enough
That's how HE feels!not coming fast enough
Interesting Interview from Joe Dumars:
February 16, Pistons.com: KL: You've made one significant trade this year, which is one more than most teams make during the season. Are you any more or less inclined to make another one because you're already ins uted a significant change with your roster this season?
JD: No, because there's no quota on making significant deals. I would say that what's not lost on me is feeling like what we've done in previous years - how we did it, the personnel we did it with - had run its course. We could squeeze out 50 wins and try to get back deep in the playoffs - or you could start the transition process now. And that's what we've chosen to do, start the transition process now. And that transition process is, one, putting the ball in the hands of a young Rodney Stuckey and letting that development take place now and not prolonging it or delaying it. And the second thing is create a tremendous amount of flexibility with your cap that you can add significant pieces to your team to change your team as part of that transition. So, two things: one, start the process now with Stuckey; two, start the process now of being in the position to add a couple of really big-time players to your team. Start the process now as opposed to prolong it, putting it off, and saying, well, we'll get to it a year or two down the road, and you don't know how things will turn out then.
So that's what's not lost on me. If that means we have to go through some struggles this year, as we have, then, OK, I'm willing to do that. I'm willing to go through these struggles to get to where we need to get. I don't like it. It's gut-wrenching. We haven't lost here. The first time in eight or nine years we're losing games that we ordinarily have not lost. That's tough for all of us to swallow. It's especially hard for me to swallow. It's hard to wake up and face losing to teams that you just haven't lost to and all of a sudden you wake up and it's another L.
I don't want anybody to get it wrong, that we're OK with losing, because we're not. It's harder than to sit here and lose. But it would be even harder to lose if we waited and waited and waited and there was no prospect to get better. There was no young guy like Stuckey that you're handing the ball to. There was no flexibility with cap space to go out and add players. It would be even harder if we waited longer and found ourselves in this position.
http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress...d_about_c.html
So if he's talking about starting the transition process NOW, anyone think he really may be shopping Sheed, I dunno just looking for something, anything, that can help us believe we may get Sheed.
I can't wait until the deadline passes. I am really getting tired of looking at this thread and the VC thread every time I log on.
I am sick of people coming to these threads just to whine about the topic everytime I click on them to see if there is any update whatsoever.
Stop wasting your time.
Hey dude I will decide what interests me and what does not. I do not get emotionally involved so if it doesn't go down I don't get all butt hurt. If you need to play this act to protect your fragile self then go right ahead.
Fact is that there are legs to this rumor and those legs come from multiple sources and I like to see what happens. The only person wasting my time here is you with your inane attempts to play thought police.
Is dumars overvalueing the progress of what stuckey can be in this league?
any news about Rasheed coming? or just especulations?
Just speculation. The Pistons have no incentive to move Rasheed unless they're getting something close to equal talent in return. The Spurs can't offer that.
I disagree. With rumors that Amare is staying with the suns, the Pistons have to know they aren't going to get equal value for a player who will be a half season rental.
IMO, the question is really whether a team can offer enough towards their rebuilding efforts (picks, player rights, young talent, more cap space etc.) to justify losing whatever he might bring them in their playoff run this year, assuming they even make it.
I should have been more clear. The equal talent in return that the Pistons would be looking for would probably have to be some combination of picks/rights/young players. You're correct that the odds of the Pistons being able to trade Sheed straight up for one player who is as good as Sheed are slim.
Unfortunately for the Spurs they can't offer Detroit decent draft picks or more cap space, and that leaves Splitter and Hill filling the rights & young talent roles. If the Spurs were willing to cough up both they might be able to get Dumars to raise an eyebrow. But do the Spurs want to do that?
One more important thing people seem to be forgetting is that Dumars really isn't running all that big a risk of losing Sheed for nothing if he doesn't pull the trigger on a deal. This offseason he can still re-sign Sheed, sign and trade him, or just let him walk and end up with a boatload of cap space in an offseason where most teams will be hesitant to spend money. Dumars has all the cards. The Spurs have nothing to force his hand with.
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