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Cheating is not a shock, but with a former teammate's wife?
Damn, what a .
lol such a "classy" player.
The moral relativism employed in this thread by those who justify cheating is an embodiment of the sickness of the human soul. What do I mean? You people are only thinking about yourselves and completely ignoring the iompact on the other person, who is equally important and should be equally empowered in the relationship. By cheating you are saying they don't count for anything. That is sick.
Cheating is not a shock, but with a former teammate's wife?
Damn, what a .
lol such a "classy" player.
All you people defending cheating are basically saying that an agreement between two people who supposedly love each other (whether married or simply together by mutual agreement) is utterly meaningless. You are also endorsing the right to lie to those you love about the most important thing in their lives and yours, namely your relationship. You are pretending that it's excusable behaviour when actually it is deplorable and de able.
I will now get flamed for being a prude or jumping on the moral high horse, but anyone who does that can go themselves. Look at what you are saying - it is okay to lie to your partner, it is okay to endanger their health (by sleeping with someone else while you're probably still sleeping with them), it is okay to let your genitals make decisions for you. Actually, no, it's not, and those are the traits of the weak.
If you want out of any kind of relationship you do it face-to-face, and you do it BEFORE you start sleeping around. It's not all about you. You made a commitment to this person, and they are impacted by your decision, so at least respect them enough to end it with dignity.
wow, just read about this. but you make a good point. no way in is a guy going to "devastated" if his wife is texting another. tony was probably ing her all the time
Not everyone is endorsing cheating.All you people defending cheating are basically saying that an agreement between two people who supposedly love each other (whether married or simply together by mutual agreement) is utterly meaningless. You are also endorsing the right to lie to those you love about the most important thing in their lives and yours, namely your relationship. You are pretending that it's excusable behaviour when actually it is deplorable and de able.
I will now get flamed for being a prude or jumping on the moral high horse, but anyone who does that can go themselves. Look at what you are saying - it is okay to lie to your partner, it is okay to endanger their health (by sleeping with someone else while you're probably still sleeping with them), it is okay to let your genitals make decisions for you. Actually, no, it's not, and those are the traits of the weak.
If you want out of any kind of relationship you do it face-to-face, and you do it BEFORE you start sleeping around. It's not all about you. You made a commitment to this person, and they are impacted by your decision, so at least respect them enough to end it with dignity.
A fair number of us are saying that people are jumping the gun here and making some pretty broadly based assumptions.
And regardless of whether it happened or not, I'm still back with Manny. Who cares? I mean, yeah, it's not particularly nice, but well. I'm not a Tony Parker fan because I thought he was the paragon of a good husband.
I get that the Spurs are known and loved for being character guys - it's a reason I love them myself. But if he cheated on his wife, well, ok. It's not great, but it's also not the end of the world. There are far worse things he could do that would genuinely make me lose respect for him.
I guess this just isn't one of them.
So watching all the moralistic preaching when there is no proof that he's done anything is just bizarre to me. Talk about rush to judgment.
it must suck being the mango tree now....
Also for people taking the "It was just sexting" route..seriously..from a MAN point of view.. (now I could be wrong on this, but this is assuming that Erin and Brent still have a home here, because I'm not sure, but i think i've read somewhere that they did) you are sexting with a gorgeous woman, your hard, your not thinking with your uppermost head, not to mention this woman lives in SA, and its so easy to make arrangements to meet somewhere, do you REALLY think you would spend so much time sexting back and forth and be able to CONTROL your desire to her? nah..supposedly there was several texts, and it's not realistic to think they were "text friends" only. No way.
you and your moral relativism. There are situations where people fall out of love and stay together for the kids, or one or the other partner gets sick and the sex disappears, and in those and similar cases negotiation is called for. That is not what we're talking about - this is two highly successful people, one of whom has decided to pretend the other doesn't matter any more without informing them.
I'm 35 and have been in a number of long term serious relationships. In those relationships I have actually shown respect for the person I'm with and openly communicated with them. I have broken up with someone to pursue someone else - it wasn't pretty, but it was a damn sight better than cheating on them.
PS I am assuming there has been intercourse - if it's just flirting by text, that's a very different story.
First he gets in HEB commercials and then he gets in Erin.
Unless your a borderline cuck or a straight out cuckhold, i don't see how anyone on this board doesn't see Erin Barry as a complete . If i was Brent Barry, wont see the kids for an indefinate time, nor get any of my money. She better strip for cash to eat from now on. I'm serious.
The teammate part isn't a big deal..it's not Parker's obligation to stay away from her, it's her obligation to resist temptation, she has a husband and kids..sucks for Barry to find out this way, but at least he knows she's a now, even though it's obviously a painful realization..
Fair enough. I am assuming that TP has been ing around. Do you really believe someone would divorce someone else for texting? C'mon.
Anyway, if he's just been texting people I couldn't give a . If he has been ing people outside his marriage he's a s bag for all the reasons I outlined above, which is a real pity.
I don't know how anybody can argue that sexting isn't cheating..how the isn't that considered cheating?..while it isn't physical, it's not like it's the same thing as fantasizing about it..sexting means you're actually doing something about it, you aren't just thinking about it..
If my girlfriend was sexting, I would break up with her instantly, tbh..
I will root for TP to score buckets during a game while also rooting that they find a suitable replacement.
Guy is a s bag.
Dude, that's all a bunch of us are saying. That no one knows what is happening.
There are a lot of assumptions flying around.
Maybe we could lose the high morality tones until we know what's happened? Plenty of time to bring the high horse out of the stable and ride it around later.
And I have no idea what a man thinks about while texting/sexting. I don't see it as being completely unreal to think it might not have gone farther.
Especially since everything has been SO orchestrated on Eva's side. An interview revealing all of this and divorce papers filed the day it hits? Given the thick, high-handed press spin her camp is putting out, I would assume cheating would have been included in there.
Perhaps I'm wrong. If so, I'll be happy to pile up some stones to throw at Tony next time the team is in Houston.
easjer.. i bet you cuckold your husband. You sound a bit progressive and whiny like the liberal Cry Havoc is.
I wasn't aware you were involved in discussing Tony and Eva's relationship with them. Interesting.
All you people defending cheating are basically saying that an agreement between two people who supposedly love each other (whether married or simply together by mutual agreement) is utterly meaningless. You are also endorsing the right to lie to those you love about the most important thing in their lives and yours, namely your relationship. You are pretending that it's excusable behaviour when actually it is deplorable and de able.
I will now get flamed for being a prude or jumping on the moral high horse, but anyone who does that can go themselves. Look at what you are saying - it is okay to lie to your partner, it is okay to endanger their health (by sleeping with someone else while you're probably still sleeping with them), it is okay to let your genitals make decisions for you. Actually, no, it's not, and those are the traits of the weak.
If you want out of any kind of relationship you do it face-to-face, and you do it BEFORE you start sleeping around. It's not all about you. You made a commitment to this person, and they are impacted by your decision, so at least respect them enough to end it with dignity.
I'm with RuffnReady on this one. Cheating is wrong and cowardly. Period.
As to if they actually had sex, I too think it's much more likely that it happened than it didn't, but the point is that we don't know. It's entirely possible that Tony and Erin received emotional support from each other with both of their marriages in troubled waters, some sexual tension then developed between the two, but in the end they were too scared to go through with it.
I'm with RuffnReady on this one. Cheating is wrong and cowardly. Period.
As to if they actually had sex, I too think it's much more likely that it happened than it didn't, but the point is that we don't know. It's entirely possible that Tony and Erin received emotional support from each other with both of their marriages in troubled waters, some sexual tension then developed between the two, but in the end they were too scared to go through with it.
Also, all this talk about "class" is really annoying..
The details aren't out yet, but I'd be willing to bet that they both did some cheating..even so, while I'm completely against cheating and it annoys me, it's not like he murdered somebody or raped somebody.. , this isn't even as bad as drunk driving IMO..
It's not like the Lakers or Nuggets or most other NBA teams
I agree. Not to mention Tony is the same age as me, he is definitely wise enough to know what kind of backlash and negative publicity a thing like this would bring. Just like EVERY god damn tabloid out there was dying to feature the marriage story, this will be the same scenario x50. So much for the Spurs flying under the radar.
I would too.I don't know how anybody can argue that sexting isn't cheating
If my girlfriend was sexting, I would break up with her instantly, tbh..
It's hard to draw the line between being an over-controlling freak and being the super lenient chill guy. But still, as stupid as breaking up over texting sounds, it's justified. If you're in a serious relationship, you theoretically care about the other person and intend on having a future with them. It's hard to love someone when that person is begging for it from someone else.
LOL. Although I do tend to agree that the cheating part is unnecessary and perhaps divorcing first would have been more ideal, we dont live in a perfect world. By so heavily disagreeing with this whole situation you prove that you live in a world of fantasy and idealism. This happens whether you like it or not, however, you are by no means forced to face the harsh reality of the world we live in.
Tony has betrayed The Family. Not the attention tmz family, but the Black and Silver family.
Blood in Blood out.
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