Nobody was saying dude would become a beast but a lot of Spurs fans aplauded the trade (Jeffries (?) who created a thread to say Spurs had found their long 3, manyisgod, Solid Defense, Chump etc...) while others in minority were questioning it vehemently (FkLA, DPG and few others)
She was used for the trade that for me is a feminin word for whatever reason, I should have used it tho... But you could have figured out reading.
on a side note and contrary to you I don't address myself
for the rest you can go yourself got tbh fwiw
Chill man, I was just poking fun at you..I know you get irritated so fast..It was nothing but just a fun joke.
I know english is not your first your english and neither is it mine. honestly, you probably speak 4 or 5 more languages than the average joe and that's to be admired, IMO.
Just poking you a bit... You were not a big fan of this trade mainly because this trade was assurance parker would resign for an extension tbh
Funny part is Hill maturation has been very slow tbh... He struggled quite a bit when given the minutes with Indiana. In retrospect keeping hill and trading parker would have put Spurs on rebuilding mode.... exactly what you feared it would happen with Kawhi.
even if Kawhi turn out to be "just" a solid role player this trade was great because she was addressing what Spurs needed the most a wing player with length and defensive skills but best part he was a dude capable to eat RJ's minutes
I never thought Hill was ever going to be as good as a prime Enrique. I did think he was capable of being a solid starting PG though, which ended up being the case. Slide Hill at PG and get a solid bigman in return for Enrique. Either that or trade Hill for a 19 year old SF to back-up who just signed a big extension. Which seemed like the better option after getting knocked out in '11 by the Grizz?
I don't think my reasoning was that bad, Kawhi just made me look bad bc he ended up being so good so soon.
agh the days of Richard Jefferson..
Dark days...
No, it was bad, give yourself credit. Hill is still not a PG.
I never thought Hill was ever going to be as good as a prime Enrique. I did think he was capable of being a solid starting PG though, which ended up being the case. Slide Hill at PG and get a solid bigman in return for Enrique. Either that or trade Hill for a 19 year old SF to back-up who just signed a big extension. Which seemed like the better option after getting knocked out in '11 by the Grizz?
I don't think my reasoning was that bad, Kawhi just made me look bad bc he ended up being so good so soon.
Relative to say Stockton or Nash, sure. But like I said then he wouldn't have been replacing that type of guy. Enrique has always been a score-first PG with limited courtvision that averaged ~5 apg during the majority of his younger years. Hill has a different skillset than Enrique too obviously. I was thinking along the lines of the '10 Spurs with Manu running the show and a solid bigman alongside Timmy.
Its all good
Chill man, I was just poking fun at you..I know you get irritated so fast..It was nothing but just a fun joke.
I know english is not your first your english and neither is it mine. honestly, you probably speak 4 or 5 more languages than the average joe and that's to be admired, IMO.
when I use tbh fwiw after got it usually means Im having fun too even though I have to admit sometimes ST makes my blood go high...
thing is one tend to forget Hill had a rough start with pacers, I remember the famous serie against heat, with half of a decent PG pacers would have won dat with ease. I do like hill a lot but he is more a SG playing PG with pass skilling abilities close to 0. He did improve tho but it took time. Hill was not a good idea as Spurs starting PG, we tried that a couple of games against Suns in POs and did not work out very well.
I never thought Hill was ever going to be as good as a prime Enrique. I did think he was capable of being a solid starting PG though, which ended up being the case. Slide Hill at PG and get a solid bigman in return for Enrique. Either that or trade Hill for a 19 year old SF to back-up who just signed a big extension. Which seemed like the better option after getting knocked out in '11 by the Grizz?
I don't think my reasoning was that bad, Kawhi just made me look bad bc he ended up being so good so soon.
your reasoning was biased by your parker hate imo... But I agree nobody could have predicted Kawhi will become a dude capable to outplay Lebron on a PO serie
That's dishonest. The Spurs won a playoff series with him as the starter and Enrique was brought off the bench bc the team played so well with a Hill-Manu backcourt. Sure they got beatdown by Phoenix but that wasn't entirely Hill's fault since they got beatdown even when Enrique was reinserted into the starting line-up. The Spurs just weren't good enough that year.
Saying he's not a PG bc he's not a great playmaker is dumb. There's plenty of starting PGs who's bread and butter is shooting the three/defense rather than playmaking tbh.
Regarding Indiana-Miami, that's like saying the Spurs would've gotten past OKC in '12 or Miami in '13 without a choking PG. Or past the Grizz if the all-star PG hadn't allowed a young Conley to school him. Or past the Lakers all those years if Phil Jax didn't contain the Spurs PG so easily. Or what if the Spurs hadn't had Speedy, Kerr, CoJo and Paddy to bail the starting PG out??
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Listen if you are so angry at parker you can't even recognize how pacers needed a capable pg there is nothing to discuss about tbh... We spent two seasons saying hill was sucking ass with dat pacers roster. He averaged like 3 asp with 1,5 TOs barely shooting .40 from the field with a PER of 13 during last year PO. He is having a solid season this year and I'm happy for him but let's not act like dude was somehow solid before that.
lolFkLA still defending det take.
This is what happens when you bring a guy along slowly in a good program, and he has a work ethic. A lot of guys get thrown to the fire too early and burn out. Granted, alot those guys have too big an ego to take a back seat when they first come in.
Last edited by UZER; 04-06-2015 at 10:17 PM.
Hoops
The whole Pacers team fell apart down the stretch last year. You're coming off as a bitter towards him by placing the blame on him for that series just like you placed the blame on him for the Spurs-Suns series.
He's a complimentary piece anyway not a star. He's never going be a consistently good playoff performer. Then again Rique hasn't been a consistently good playoff performer either, which is why I brought up his playoff chokejobs.
Better watch your words brah..you don't want to get banned.
You threw a tantrum over a second-round pick? Seriously?
why didn't the spurms draft Eddie Lucas? he was still available
Only get two picks every year CN....this isn't Football.
And I think the purpose of that post went over your head. The post was about not knowing what a rookie will become.
I thought manu was conisdered the best euro player that time
No not at the time. He was by the time he came over but that was like 4-5 yrs after the Spurs drafted him. He would've been a lottery pick in the '02 draft imo.
Ah yah. I remembered Pop deciding to bring him over cuz of that
When you set up your draft board, you rank players 1-60, one for every pick in the draft, and when your pick comes, you pick the highest remaining player left on your board. Having Kawhi ranked 5 or 6 meant that they thought he was the 5th or 6th best player in the DRAFT, and they got him at #15.
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