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    "We're inching closer to a deal," one person briefed on the talks told CBSSports.com on Wednesday.
    I'd give my left nut for a deal that doesn't include a hard cap. Anything but that.

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    I'd give my left nut for a deal that doesn't include a hard cap. Anything but that.
    thats gonna be the big issue, whether its a hard cap or a punitive tax version of it. with worth they are trying to squeeze in a 82 game season so that techinally offsets the losses of the canceled games, that would make owners easier about going 50 50.

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    The version of the cap that was being talked about recently wasn't as heavy.

    IIRC, it was $1.75 per dollar spent on the first $5 million, with a progressive 50c increase for each extra $5 million. Still a lot of dough, but better than a fixed 8-1 or so.

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    I wonder if there is any truth about the rumor of the league having an alternate 82 games schedule starting on December 1st. If it's true, it will push players and owners to reach a deal soon. A 82 game season starting on December 1st would suck, I much rather have a 70 games schedule with more rest between games. However, if this ultra condensed 82 games schedule is the price to pay to have a season, it is a small price to pay.

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    Greedy Bas s!! Accept the 50/50 precondition and let's finish this deal!
    I thought wingnuts liked greed.

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    Two sources -- one on ownership side, one union -- with direct knowledge of latest proposals are encouraged with movement on both sides.

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    Clearly, the NBA and NBPA made some measure of progress talking quietly over last 48-72 hours leading into bargaining session today in NY.

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    I wonder if there is any truth about the rumor of the league having an alternate 82 games schedule starting on December 1st. If it's true, it will push players and owners to reach a deal soon. A 82 game season starting on December 1st would suck, I much rather have a 70 games schedule with more rest between games. However, if this ultra condensed 82 games schedule is the price to pay to have a season, it is a small price to pay.
    It would give Duncan even more reason to remain on the bench, and give Pop even more reason to sit Tiago. The bas missed training camp again.

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    Adrian Wojnarowski
    Two sources -- one on ownership side, one union -- with direct knowledge of latest proposals are encouraged with movement on both sides.
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    Clearly, the NBA and NBPA made some measure of progress talking quietly over last 48-72 hours leading into bargaining session today in NY.

    I'm not getting my hopes up again. We have heard the progress song and dance before.

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    I'm not getting my hopes up again. We have heard the progress song and dance before.
    THIS. Until I see a headline where a deal has actually been reached, all this talk could be BS once again.

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    THIS. Until I see a headline where a deal has actually been reached, all this talk could be BS once again.
    Yep, until they are putting the pen to paper, this is all just posturing afaic.

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    But I will still continue to refresh Woj's twitter every 15 minutes.

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    Michael Wilbon from PTI thinks there will be a deal done by Friday, that them not officially canceling the last 2 weeks in November were encouraging I guess.

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    My sources tell me that a deal will be done by end of the week (agreed to in principle at least).

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    Not really, but sounds cool.

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    My sources tell me your sources are a bunch of jerks!

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    Nothing more than speculation, but:

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    According to (translation of) Facebook posting of promoter of NBA lockout all-star game in Puerto Rico, ticket sales have been suspended.
    Ken Berger of CBSSports.com is reporting the sides are “inching closer” to a deal.

    “A person in frequent contact with ownership told CBSSports.com this week that 51.5 percent is, in fact, the presumed landing spot for the players’ share. According to the source, one owner recently confided to associates that the union’s affinity for “odd numbers” and fact that 51.5 was a logical midpoint between the various “bands” each side has proposed signaled that such a split ultimately would get done. The owners then have to agree among themselves to a revamped revenue-sharing plan to help small-market and low-revenue teams. League executives, team officials and owners participated in a video conference call lasting several hours Tuesday to discuss the latest proposals on how to redistribute revenue. Although one person on the call said there was no consensus and that “a lot of ideas” remained on the table, one executive told CBSSports.com that observers will be “pleasantly surprised” by the commitment big-market owners are willing to make to revenue sharing. Assuming that aspect of the negotiations soon will be finalized, the last base to be covered is perhaps the most difficult of all: changing the distribution of payrolls among teams to achieve what league officials consistently refer to as their goal of “compe ive balance.” It’s an ideal that both deputy commissioner Adam Silver and labor relations committee chairman Peter Holt pointed to last week as something the NFL (hard cap) and NHL (flex cap) have achieved. Having been unable to get the NBPA to agree to either concept, league negotiators have spent the past several weeks trying to refine a more punitive luxury-tax system to achieve the same goals.”

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    When was that NLRB ruling supposed to go out/come down?

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    Not really, but sounds cool.
    dang, I was impressed for a few seconds...

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    Twitter is blowing up with tweets that the lockout is over. Haven't seen one from an substantial source yet. Word of mouth is a ...

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    If the league owners decide to impose higher luxury tax limits on themselves, does the player's union have to agree?

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    If the league owners decide to impose higher luxury tax limits on themselves, does the player's union have to agree?
    The luxury tax is determined by the total value of player contracts and effects future contracts so yes they have to agree.

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    From my source who shall remain nameless...

    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    A league source wired into bargaining session tells Y!: "There's a deal to be had if everyone shows a little flexibility."

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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    A league source wired into bargaining session tells Y!: "There's a deal to be had if everyone shows a little flexibility."
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    If I had to use one word to describe either side right now, it wouldn't be "flexible".

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