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    Kyle was quite good. I was surprised that he only logged 8 minutes. Seemed like more.
    Should have played more over Patty/Manu who were getting slaughtered on defense.

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    Popa getting outcoached at home by kid half his age

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    He didnt have any touch or rhytem. He shot times in the first half. Parker was too my.ball happy
    Crowder locked him up & he was loose w/ the ball. The physicality frustrated him & he was playing passive on both ends.

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    He didnt have any touch or rhytem. He shot times in the first half. Parker was too my.ball happy
    he actually had the ball quite a lot when the spurs lost the lead, he was picking up his dribble too early, really couldnt make anything happen and even turned the ball a couple of times iirc, just a rare 'bad' game for kawhi

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    Manu has been dissapointing the last 3 games tbh. He scored 15 tonight but he killed the flow of the offense and got boston back. He was atrocious defensively.

    Lets hope things change. I dont ever want to see the 201e manu that tried too hard to play a game his age does not allow anymore

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    The Celtics are good and up and coming team, good win tonight.

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    Manu has been dissapointing the last 3 games tbh. He scored 15 tonight but he killed the flow of the offense and got boston back. He was atrocious defensively.

    Lets hope things change. I dont ever want to see the 201e manu that tried too hard to play a game his age does not allow anymore
    Celtics feed called him the man of the match.

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    Agreed I am not sure if he just pissed up Pop to end the 3rd. He really started to get passive and passing the ball into traffic. I through at different points Manu and Kawhi were also tired and started making bad decisions.

    A lot to learn from this. We had been defending their 3 well until this game. Still a game we won when we only 5 threes I'll take it!

    Also, Danny and Kawhi making clutch FT. Good and thrilling game. Can't blame POP fir this one. Players themselves git sloppy at times.

    He still doesn't trust Kyle. I think he only played bc of the foul trouble situation, but he played well. That will help his confidence. When even LMA and Boris were nit playing down the stretch you know Pop was sticking to his trusted guys.

    Good quality clutch win requiring good performance down the stretch and enough too scare the bejeezus out of them.

    You really want to analyze this game, it all comes down to: Kawhi had an off night and didn't dominate the way he has been doing. The rest of the guys were a little sluggish at times, but pretty much did what they do.

    The whistles seemed like a problem, but both teams wound up committing 22 PF and taking 22 FT's.
    Manu had 15 points, 7 boards, 4 AST, and only 1 TO. I'll take that from him every night.
    Isaiah Thomas averages 21 points and 6.4 AST. Tonight he had 23 and 8. Not an outrageous night for him.
    Bradley made 1 more 3-pointer than he normally makes in a game.
    The Spurs out-rebounded them massively 48-39, and outscored them in the paint 44-30.

    The only other thing that stands out is that the Celtics are young and quick, and got out running. The Spurs didn't get back on transition D, and the Celtics had 28 fast break points compared to just 3 for the Spurs. But if Kawhi has his normal game, a lot of those opportunities wouldn't have been there.

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    Celtics feed called him the man of the match.
    Stats.

    As kawhistom pointed out he was abysmal defensively and his Offense was counterproductive. I love manu, but i call it as it is. Tonight he played like a tony parker that would.gets the stats but otherwise is a net negative.

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    The Celtics are a well-coached TEAM. Really like their style.

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    You really want to analyze this game, it all comes down to: Kawhi had an off night and didn't dominate the way he has been doing. The rest of the guys were a little sluggish at times, but pretty much did what they do.

    The whistles seemed like a problem, but both teams wound up committing 22 PF and taking 22 FT's.
    Manu had 15 points, 7 boards, 4 AST, and only 1 TO. I'll take that from him every night.
    Isaiah Thomas averages 21 points and 6.4 AST. Tonight he had 23 and 8. Not an outrageous night for him.
    Bradley made 1 more 3-pointer than he normally makes in a game.
    The Spurs out-rebounded them massively 48-39, and outscored them in the paint 44-30.

    The only other thing that stands out is that the Celtics are young and quick, and got out running. The Spurs didn't get back on transition D, and the Celtics had 28 fast break points compared to just 3 for the Spurs. But if Kawhi has his normal game, a lot of those opportunities wouldn't have been there.
    Kind of agree with your analysis. Kawhi really did struggle since early in the game and couldn't get going for a good stretch. Also made bad decisions at times. An opportunity to learn from it for him. There was more beside him. Many of our TO were not forced, but guys were just careless. Defensively a lot to learn from it also but Thomas was just killing us

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    Kl played like something was bothering him, just off with a lot of things, even sporstmanship, I saw him go off by himself a few times, after a poor play, while teammates huddled together, didn't extend a courteous hand when he sort of pushed a Celtics player to the floor.

    One sequence he mucked up like 3 trips down, and passed to Kyle Anderson with like 2 seconds on the clock, which SloMo buried.

    Even at the finishing, after KL got the rebound, Isiah almost stole it from him under the basket, with the way things were going, Isiah prolly wo8ld have made it. That guy was on turbo.

    Fortunately Spurs made just enough plays to eke out Win. Kl hit his free throws too.

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    Manu has been dissapointing the last 3 games tbh. He scored 15 tonight but he killed the flow of the offense and got boston back. He was atrocious defensively.

    Lets hope things change. I dont ever want to see the 201e manu that tried too hard to play a game his age does not allow anymore
    Stats.

    As kawhistom pointed out he was abysmal defensively and his Offense was counterproductive. I love manu, but i call it as it is. Tonight he played like a tony parker that would.gets the stats but otherwise is a net negative.

    He tries to do too much when the team relies on him too much, and he still comes through. Also Manu's "net negative" included Spur's highest + rating.

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    Manu has been dissapointing the last 3 games tbh. He scored 15 tonight but he killed the flow of the offense and got boston back. He was atrocious defensively.

    Lets hope things change. I dont ever want to see the 201e manu that tried too hard to play a game his age does not allow anymore
    played 25 minutes during which the team outscored the celtics by 13, bailed out a few posesions in the clutch and recognized the need to go hard to the rim, something the spurs have yet to understand.
    was one of the 3 best spur players.

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    Even at the finishing, after KL got the rebound, Isiah almost stole it from him under the basket, with the way things were going, Isiah prolly wo8ld have made it. That guy was on turbo.
    Isaiah Thomas was 7 of 17. A bot short of 'turbo', imo.

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    Stats.

    As kawhistom pointed out he was abysmal defensively and his Offense was counterproductive. I love manu, but i call it as it is. Tonight he played like a tony parker that would.gets the stats but otherwise is a net negative.
    If they would have chosen it because of stats LMA would have got it. You are talking about Manu being a net negative but he was a team leading +12 tonight.

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    If they would have chosen it because of stats LMA would have got it. You are talking about Manu being a net negative but he was a team leading +12 tonight.
    All about flow...he was responsible for the celtics coming back into the game. He made one huge three so it evens out but otherwise he was poor and tried to do too much.

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    All about flow...he was responsible for the celtics coming back into the game. He made one huge three so it evens out but otherwise he was poor and tried to do too much.
    How could he be responsible for the Celtics getting back into the game when he had the best +/- of the team? Yeah, manu had a couple of bad decisions on the game and the Man of the match label might be a little too much (although I can't think of another guy that should have deserved it more with the exception of maybe Boris) but he was far from being a net negative, tbh. You should re-watch the game, imho.

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    How could he be responsible for the Celtics getting back into the game when he had the best +/- of the team? Yeah, manu had a couple of bad decisions on the game and the Man of the match label might be a little too much (although I can't think of another guy that should have deserved it more with the exception of maybe Boris) but he was far from being a net negative, tbh. You should re-watch the game, imho.
    +- is ty. Stop using that bs.

    A players performance is all about how he affects the flow of the game. Manu was poor in the first half and he tried to do too much in the second half specifically during the time when Boston was making a run.

    Its all good he had one bad game..the issue is when he tries to play like this. Game 6 of the finals is exactly what i was remebring.

    Hopefully he doesnt try to play like hes 25 again since its bad for his long term health and the team in game. Hes a compe ors so i understand he will have games where overdribbles...just calling it the way it is.

    Boris was for sure the best player in the game.

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    +- is ty. Stop using that bs.

    A players performance is all about how he affects the flow of the game. Manu was poor in the first half and he tried to do too much in the second half specifically during the time when Boston was making a run.

    Its all good he had one bad game..the issue is when he tries to play like this. Game 6 of the finals is exactly what i was remebring.

    Hopefully he doesnt try to play like hes 25 again since its bad for his long term health and the team in game. Hes a compe ors so i understand he will have games where overdribbles...just calling it the way it is.

    Boris was for sure the best player in the game.
    I have no problem admitting when Manu plays bad and I agree with you that him trying to do too much is not good for the Spurs. I just didn't see what you saw tonight son.

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    BTW, when you are talking about teams runs on a particular game +/- is very useful, tbh.

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    All about flow...he was responsible for the celtics coming back into the game. He made one huge three so it evens out but otherwise he was poor and tried to do too much.
    he was not on court during the celtics comback. left the game spurs up 11 came back spurs up 4

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    +- is ty. Stop using that bs.

    A players performance is all about how he affects the flow of the game. Manu was poor in the first half and he tried to do too much in the second half specifically during the time when Boston was making a run.

    Its all good he had one bad game..the issue is when he tries to play like this. Game 6 of the finals is exactly what i was remebring.

    Hopefully he doesnt try to play like hes 25 again since its bad for his long term health and the team in game. Hes a compe ors so i understand he will have games where overdribbles...just calling it the way it is.

    Boris was for sure the best player in the game.
    Let me put it this way, the flow of the game was affected during the time pop went super small with our 2 pg. Ginobili was not in the game by then.

    I just dont know what you saw in this game, but for in game analysis + - is a usefull stat. And that stat in particular shows you that during the Celtics runs Manu was on the bench.

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    Yeah Apa re-watch it, he wasn't in the game during the Celtics run

    It wasn't a great performance from him but he put up the stats and came through in the clutch, was +13 and in the first half it was mainly hik feeding Boris and LMA in the post
    As opposed to the last few games where he had been pretty good defensively he was quite bad today, I agree with that, but he played well overall

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