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Irving to spurs heating up.
Yeah, this season and next year. It's not ideal but the Spurs wouldn't have much of a choice. After next year they could always waive and stretch him but that's probably not likely considering it would cost $4.5 million each for the next three seasons after next. It would free up $10 million next off season and Kyrie and Kawhi would only combine to make $40.2 million.
Irving to spurs heating up.
He has a team option that he may not decline because he probably isn't making anywhere $22.5 after next season, unless someone offers him like a 3 year $50 million dollar deal fully guaranteed.
In my trade scenario ,I posted on the previous page, the Suns could theoretically clear out $23 million for the 18-19 season depending on what LMA does. Frye would be a better flip because of his cheap expiring contract no so much LMA because of his large salary and having to make the salaries work.
Feel like this is the only way we could nab Irving without giving up too much to negate the addition.
Green and Leonard would hopefully be able to help cover up for Irving defensively, and Chandler wasn't bad last season. Spurs could probably still be a top 10 defensive team while adding an excellent offensive player to draw attention away from Kawhi
Spurs ain't gunna do .. Everyone here is hyped up knowing the FO just sits back and watches.
Just got off the phone with my source.
He said that we're trading kawhi for kyrie. You heard it here first
Sadlythis is the truth!
My whole point is that a team with a better package might risk it that are not on his list. Denver and Boston are good examples and they have better assets. They weren't on his list but could make compelling cases to Irving to what he wants. He'd easily be the man on either team and both have good young cores. Boston, he could lead against Cleveland and take them past LeBron. That'd be good TV.And to Raybies, what IND got in return for PG due to him being traded to a team not on his list was trash.
If CLE is willing to sell Kyrie for garabage and eating a ton of money at the same time, well then sureEvery team can beat SA there.
I don't know how smart Altman is and by that I mean dealing in the conference but they'd probably have the best potential package. And I don't know how loyal Ainge is to Thomas...
Denver needs a point and need someone just like Irving. It'd be his own team and have good talent.
However unlikely, my point is OKC traded for George, no matter what you think of the package. They risked their short term future and more for George cause if he leaves, Westbrook likely leaves. They risked more than just Oladipo and Sabonis, they potentially put the straw that could break the camels back.
But OKC proves the market can get something done. George is almost guaranteed as leaving and they did it. Irving has two years and you act like just because he might piss and moan they won't get a deal done. Nobody even knew OKC was in the running for George. He probably didn't even know. They liked the deal and did it. Who knows what kind of class or ethics Cleveland has now, whether they take care of their players or just get the best deal possible. They could just pull the trigger and say screw it, if the other team doesn't care to know if he'll stay. He's got two years lol.
Only thing I do know is green and Murray are close friends with LJ.
That might be the only advantage spurs have over any other team Irving listed...
Aside from that, spurs ain't doing .
Sure, in theory, plenty of teams could make great offers. But like with PG, BOS didn't even spend minimal assets to get Paul George who is a far superior player. Why is that? It's for the same reason I stated. Sure, the fact Kyrie has 2 years vs PG 1 year is a factor but how much? That extra certainly isn't stopping Kyrie from forcing his way out of CLE.
Sure, best *potential* package, but will those offers come to fruition. Think of it this way. If you are DEN and just landed Millsap & have Jokic - are you going all in for Kyrie when you see he hasn't committed to you or wants to play for you? What assets would you give up that CLE would want to take that risk? Put your GM hat on personally.I don't know how smart Altman is and by that I mean dealing in the conference but they'd probably have the best potential package. And I don't know how loyal Ainge is to Thomas...
Denver needs a point and need someone just like Irving. It'd be his own team and have good talent.
That is not true at all. This is not subjective. OKC was looking to dump Dipo's contract. They would have done it for getting no salary back and no players. They just happened to get a shot at PG. If they wouldn't have traded for PG and kept Dipo WB was not said to be walking. Just getting PG and then him possibly leaving doesn't change things for WB. All it does is now give them so much more flexilbity and a chance to sign PG long-term if things work.However unlikely, my point is OKC traded for George, no matter what you think of the package. They risked their short term future and more for George cause if he leaves, Westbrook likely leaves. They risked more than just Oladipo and Sabonis, they potentially put the straw that could break the camels back.
Painting some narrative that losing Dipo would cause Westbrook to leave is laughable to me.
That's what I said. It's possible some team can do something stupid. The difference in your beliefs and virtually all basketball minds that cover the game is the OKC didn't do something stupid; IND did.But OKC proves the market can get something done. George is almost guaranteed as leaving and they did it. Irving has two years and you act like just because he might piss and moan they won't get a deal done. Nobody even knew OKC was in the running for George. He probably didn't even know. They liked the deal and did it. Who knows what kind of class or ethics Cleveland has now, whether they take care of their players or just get the best deal possible. They could just pull the trigger and say screw it, if the other team doesn't care to know if he'll stay. He's got two years lol.
They got an absolutely trash package and had to take on money just to trade a disgruntled PG. Sure the extra year for Kyrie is valuable but doesn't change things too much since with those same 2 years he's forcing his way out of CLE
According to Amico Hoops sources, Phoenix, Denver, New Orleans and Sacramento have already plotted their calls and offers for the All-Star guard.
case closed...
Some people's trash is another persons treasure tbh
Also, unlike PG who gave only one team, Kyrie gave 4. A lot more options for CLE there.
I'd believe it.. that it was Lebron who meddled to try to get CP3 instead of the trade brokered by Griffin, but caused his abrupt departure...
The case is that other teams might risk it. We'll just have to see what happens to Irving and discuss later. Not gonna
If they're supposedly atop his list, then there's a good chance he's not going anywhere (before you bring up Aldridge, that was always a marriage of convenience) and if he does, so be it. It's not like they'd be breaking up a championship roster in the making. You keep looking for guarantees, but there aren't any.
I already said he's overrated, but he's also clearly good enough to be the 2nd best player on a championship team. On his own, he doesn't move the needle (at any given time, there's only a few who do), but again, he's the star who leads to the next star . . . but let's nitpick every player to death, overvalue aging role players and wait for that unicorn.
How do you get Aldridge and Green out of "back end rotation players"? I was clearly talking about Neal, Baynes, Simmons, Marjanovic, etc.
We know other teams might "risk" it. But if your definition of risk it is Oladipo + Sabonis than your definition of risk is not the same as 99% of the nba world.The case is that other teams might risk it. We'll just have to see what happens to Irving and discuss later. Not gonna
Also, if Oladipo + Sabonis is the talent CLE can get, then SA with LMA alone is at the top of the heap. LMA >>>> Dipo/Sabnois
Raybies - put on your GM hat. Let's pretend you are the GM for Denver. What would you offer to CLE for Kyrie.
I actually think that a Leonard/Irving duo would make Spurs pretty appealing for DMC too..
Speaking of trash, Amico is as reliable as tspence and Wojtek.
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