The Penthouse Of Josh Primo

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Jonathan Kuminga looked like ass vs Boston a few nights ago.
7th overall pick

Primo can have off games too.

[MannyIsGod]

I mean Primo isn't having an off game, he's having an off season. But who cares? He's 19. He's shown some great attributes - namely great defensive potential and great court vision.


I think people always have way too high of expectations of young players here. This is why Spurs players typically go spend a year in Austin first.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I’m not gonna lie and say I was happy when we drafted Joshua over Sengun but I think folks do need to give the kid some time.

he hasn’t looked that great in a lot of the G League or NBA minutes he has played but he also hasn’t looked totally lost when getting NBA minutes. Him not looking totally lost is a big deal. He has a long way to go but I’m not gonna give up on the young man so quickly, he just turned 19 in December. Lol

[MultiTroll]

When he first came up to the big team he was taking open shots like a natural shooter. Now he's passing those shots up and trying to drive the lane or pass off. Is he getting too much criticism/coaching from coaches or players for taking those outside shots or just playing scared because of his shooting percentages? Whatever it is, his offensive development seems to be going backward with the more minutes he gets. On the other hand, I think his defense, passing, and all-around court awareness and BBIQ is better than expected for his age and experience.

OK. He's 19. I get it. But all of us were hoping for a faster offensive development if he got more time on court this year. Not happening. So we'll wait for Summer League and next year.

+1.
Biggest concern.
He was letting them fly freely early and hitting. Now appears to be in think about it glitch mode.

[emanueldavidginobili]

That’s just the point. He wasn’t 19 and he wasn’t 20 when drafted. He was an 18 YO kid. , he’s younger than a lot of the players in THIS draft. You can’t know what he will be at his age with just a handful of games played. If you had that ability, you’d be working in an NBA front office.

Yup I just went through Kevin O'Connors big board and he is younger than 19 of the 30 players projected in the 1st round, younger than Chet, Ivey, Banchero, Murray.

[KingKev]

I’m still confident in the Spurs ability to develop players but the youth argument won’t last forever when especially when given consistent opportunities. He gets the start tonight vs Warriors.

Last time we played them their youth and unknowns embarrassed our guys.

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Jonathan Kuminga looked like ass vs Boston a few nights ago.
7th overall pick

Primo can have off games too.

Off nights are absolutely expected. Even off months.

Primo hasn't really had a good game. He defers. He gets beat on back cuts. He doesn't box out. He doesn't beat his defender on drives. Those have nothing to do with age.

And comparing him to Kuminga is not a wise choice. He's like the 3rd youngest player. Only 2 months older than Primo. Didn't even start playing until he was 10. Now he's averaging 9 ppg. I mean comparing him to all people, Kuminga shouldn't be the guy because it underscores Josh's substandard play in comparison. Primo is getting 2 more minutes a game and averaging about half the points and 2/3 the rebounds. He's 1" shorter.

I'll say it again for the record: Primo will be a solid player for us. Probably average 15-20 someday as his shot comes along. But the ideas many of us had by jumping up and grabbing this kid a year early basically, we all foresaw a *potential All-Star* At least I did. And I've had the notion disabused from me rather unapologetically by the end of his 1st year.

[Chinook]

I don't think Primo is too limited physically to be an MVP-caliber player. Obviously he's almost certainly not getting to that level, but I've seen nothing from him that puts a real ceiling yet. Comparing Josh to Kuminga directly doesn't make sense. Kuminga has been a professional basketball player for two years now. If Primo was going to be a top-five pick in this upcoming draft, he was going to be where Kuminga was last summer, not where he now. The Spurs may yet draft a top-five pick in June, and if they do get one, the very likely possibility is that that player goes into the summer league and looks way worse than Primo does. A year makes a big difference. If that likelihood is disheartening, then it's more evidence for why teams shouldn't expect to build through the draft. It usually takes time to adjust to the NBA game. Guys at the end of the first are often chosen for their NBA-readiness, so Spurs fans have seen rookies who can come in and play a role on a winning team before. But bad teams stay bad for a long time in large part because their top option take years to become positive players.

Also, this is why sending players down to Austin as a matter of course often doesn't make sense. Part of why Primo is struggling to fit in is because he spent months playing a role he wasn't going to play in the NBA. He wasn't an uber prospect who was going to get the ball immediately. He didn't need to learn how to be that guy right off the bat. He's likely not going to be that guy next year either. If he had instead spent the season as a bench player, he might have adjusted in time to have legit earned a rotation spot by this point in the season.

[cd98]

I have no issues with him playing in Austin. It is an opportunity to get minutes and compete against real men and not college guys. It makes a big difference. And tbh, Kuminga was in the G-League last year. That would be the equivalent of Josh Primo in the G-League this year. And I'd bet if Primo went to Austin next year, he'd look good and put up stats that were as good as Kuminga's stats. That doesn't mean he'll be an NBA star just like Kuminga's performance in the G-League doesn't mean anything once he's in the NBA. But I don't see Primo's play, good and bad, as really telling us anything right now. I mean Kobe was his age when he came into the NBA, and while Kobe was better, no doubt, Kobe struggled a lot for several years before putting it all together. He had moments, but he was a good 2-3 years in the league before he ascended.

[MultiTroll]

And comparing him to Kuminga is not a wise choice. He's like the 3rd youngest player. Only 2 months older than Primo. Didn't even start playing until he was 10. Now he's averaging 9 ppg. I mean comparing him to all people, Kuminga shouldn't be the guy because it underscores Josh's substandard play in comparison. Primo is getting 2 more minutes a game and averaging about half the points and 2/3 the rebounds. He's 1" shorter.

Twinky Kerrs freedom to shoot offense vs Pops head game ____ (what the is his offense?) may be a huge factor.
Def worried as others have if Pop is making Primo think too much about shots.
If not and this is all Primo 100% then lets hope he grows out of it.
Definite difference between 1st half dozen games and now.

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[BacktoBasics]

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[rjv]

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[Atl Spur]

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[TheChillFactor]

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[KingKev]

logged in this morning to read the usual stupid as basketball opinions and feminine backbiting that goes on in this forum, was not disappointed.

and provide some yourself?

[wildbill2u]

Primo never seems to get into layup territory with his drives. Not as slow as you know who, but easily intimidated when he goes inside and finds opposition. Needs to learn to take his lumps as a skinny player and get some free throws out of his efforts to drive instead of trying to pass off inside almost every time. His teammates aren't finding him when standing around outside for the corner three so they may not have any confidence in his shooting percentage.

He's playing defense better and better with good footwork to keep him in front of his man. I'm glad to see him getting more minutes at the beginning of games and closing minutes so the coaches can see what he can do--and he can build up his confidence. If he could shoot 40% of his threes we could trade some players-- or sit Keldon down

[exstatic]

Primo never seems to get into layup territory with his drives. Not as slow as you know who, but easily intimidated when he goes inside and finds opposition. Needs to learn to take his lumps as a skinny player and get some free throws out of his efforts to drive instead of trying to pass off inside almost every time. His teammates aren't finding him when standing around outside for the corner three so they may not have any confidence in his shooting percentage.

He's playing defense better and better with good footwork to keep him in front of his man. I'm glad to see him getting more minutes at the beginning of games and closing minutes so the coaches can see what he can do--and he can build up his confidence. If he could shoot 40% of his threes we could trade some players-- or sit Keldon down

Do you even watch the games? Primo is NOT skinny.

As for layups, he understands the modern game, and his role on this particular team. He often drives into layup territory, and whips a pass out to an open teammate at the three point line.

[GAustex]

Led the team in turnovers again last night
A reoccurring issue

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Primo never seems to get into layup territory with his drives. Not as slow as you know who, but easily intimidated when he goes inside and finds opposition. Needs to learn to take his lumps as a skinny player and get some free throws out of his efforts to drive instead of trying to pass off inside almost every time. His teammates aren't finding him when standing around outside for the corner three so they may not have any confidence in his shooting percentage.

THIS has been my biggest revelation about Primo's game.

I have learned that he seems destined to be at best, a jump shooter due to his inability to beat his defender. It's primarily a lack of quickness but also probably knowledge that he's gonna be met by a big to block his shot.

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Do you even watch the games? Primo is NOT skinny.

As for layups, he understands the modern game, and his role on this particular team. He often drives into layup territory, and whips a pass out to an open teammate at the three point line.

Murray understands the modern game too while dishing out 9+ APG. This has nothing whatsoever to do with "understanding the game." He doesn't have the quick burst, the quick first step to get past his defender routinely. And when he does get past his defender he doesn't even try to finish 95% of the time. So he whips out a pass that seems to get picked more often than not.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Primo never seems to get into layup territory with his drives. Not as slow as you know who, but easily intimidated when he goes inside and finds opposition. Needs to learn to take his lumps as a skinny player and get some free throws out of his efforts to drive instead of trying to pass off inside almost every time. His teammates aren't finding him when standing around outside for the corner three so they may not have any confidence in his shooting percentage.

He's playing defense better and better with good footwork to keep him in front of his man. I'm glad to see him getting more minutes at the beginning of games and closing minutes so the coaches can see what he can do--and he can build up his confidence. If he could shoot 40% of his threes we could trade some players-- or sit Keldon down

8 of his 12 points yesterday were in the paint, as he gets older, stronger and more comfortable I don't think he will have a problem getting to the rim. But I agree his defense is getting better.

[KingKev]

^ there were 5 other plays where he was a step too slow. He does seem to have good hands/instincts on the defensive end so I expect him to become an average to above average defender if the effort is there. Twitter analysts who end their analysis with #PorVida are about as good as some of the bottom feeder here.

[RC_Drunkford]

Murray understands the modern game too while dishing out 9+ APG. This has nothing whatsoever to do with "understanding the game." He doesn't have the quick burst, the quick first step to get past his defender routinely. And when he does get past his defender he doesn't even try to finish 95% of the time. So he whips out a pass that seems to get picked more often than not.

he has to work on his handles. I can see him having a Harden like game, using dribble moves and strength more so than speed

[emanueldavidginobili]

^ there were 5 other plays where he was a step too slow. He does seem to have good hands/instincts on the defensive end so I expect him to become an average to above average defender if the effort is there. Twitter analysts who end their analysis with #PorVida are about as good as some of the bottom feeder here.

Lmao I agree, the potential is there though to be a solid defender who can block shots but yeah I haven't seen anything from him showing he can be an All Defensive player like that guy said.